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What the feck!!!! DVD Macrovision
My understanding is that ;
If you are using an Nvidia graphics card and use the software from Nvidia, then you might in combination with certain TV encoders receive an error message when you update the software. According to an article on TheInquirer the software does checks to make sure the encoders comply with Macrovision requirements. In a note to the latest drivers, Nvidia says: "The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above." http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8425 Diver version 44.03 TV Encoder Type CX25871 [GF3TI500] PowerDVD 3 Used to play DVD's with no problems, now all off a sudden it doesnt Error Details TheTV Out port of your display card is not working properly. This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled. WMP9 gives a similar error. Not changed, updated, upgraded anything, so what the hell happened??????? tried unistalling then reinstalling nvidia 44.03 drivers, no joy. will try download older drivers to try, but dont really want to do that. |
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"grahamilton" graham_hamilton{at}msn.com wrote in message ... My understanding is that ; If you are using an Nvidia graphics card and use the software from Nvidia, then you might in combination with certain TV encoders receive an error message when you update the software. According to an article on TheInquirer the software does checks to make sure the encoders comply with Macrovision requirements. In a note to the latest drivers, Nvidia says: "The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above." http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8425 Diver version 44.03 TV Encoder Type CX25871 [GF3TI500] PowerDVD 3 Used to play DVD's with no problems, now all off a sudden it doesnt Error Details TheTV Out port of your display card is not working properly. This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled. WMP9 gives a similar error. Not changed, updated, upgraded anything, so what the hell happened??????? tried unistalling then reinstalling nvidia 44.03 drivers, no joy. will try download older drivers to try, but dont really want to do that. Nvidia felt obliged to disable using TV chips which circumvented macrovision. It's open to debate as to whether those card makers which selected these TV chips did so for eactly that reason. I wonder if Nvidia had recommended TV chips which didn't circumvent macrovision and they where ignored? I presume this is Nvidia's way of avoiding breaking industry agreemeents on the use of Macrovision. If the board makes did ignore Nvidia's tv chip recommendations then it's their fault, if no such recommendations where made then it's both their faults. |
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"grahamilton" graham_hamilton{at}msn.com wrote in message
... OK this is weird, seems to be playing DVD's now. Strange, very strange. Using 44.03 drivers? Stephen. |
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Re-installed the same version [44.03] of drivers, as I said still didn't
sort it, but all of a sudden DVD's were playable a few hours later. "Stephen Smith" wrote in message ... "grahamilton" graham_hamilton{at}msn.com wrote in message ... OK this is weird, seems to be playing DVD's now. Strange, very strange. Using 44.03 drivers? Stephen. |
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If NVIDIA didn't disable native/driver circumvention of Macrovision, they'd
be in violation of the US DMCA. This is why most remaining software work-arounds originate in China - they are not subject to DMCA or its EU equal. Commo "John Russell" wrote in message ... "grahamilton" graham_hamilton{at}msn.com wrote in message ... My understanding is that ; If you are using an Nvidia graphics card and use the software from Nvidia, then you might in combination with certain TV encoders receive an error message when you update the software. According to an article on TheInquirer the software does checks to make sure the encoders comply with Macrovision requirements. In a note to the latest drivers, Nvidia says: "The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above." http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8425 Diver version 44.03 TV Encoder Type CX25871 [GF3TI500] PowerDVD 3 Used to play DVD's with no problems, now all off a sudden it doesnt Error Details TheTV Out port of your display card is not working properly. This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled. WMP9 gives a similar error. Not changed, updated, upgraded anything, so what the hell happened??????? tried unistalling then reinstalling nvidia 44.03 drivers, no joy. will try download older drivers to try, but dont really want to do that. Nvidia felt obliged to disable using TV chips which circumvented macrovision. It's open to debate as to whether those card makers which selected these TV chips did so for eactly that reason. I wonder if Nvidia had recommended TV chips which didn't circumvent macrovision and they where ignored? I presume this is Nvidia's way of avoiding breaking industry agreemeents on the use of Macrovision. If the board makes did ignore Nvidia's tv chip recommendations then it's their fault, if no such recommendations where made then it's both their faults. |
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If NVIDIA didn't disable native/driver circumvention of Macrovision,
they'd be in violation of the US DMCA. This is why most remaining software work-arounds originate in China - they are not subject to DMCA or its EU equal. How so? NVidia's drivers never circumvented macrovision at all. They are now taking proactive steps to deny playback on devices that have chips not capable of inserting the macrovision data into the video signal whether or not those chips are enabled for use or not. |
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"tq96" wrote in message ... If NVIDIA didn't disable native/driver circumvention of Macrovision, they'd be in violation of the US DMCA. This is why most remaining software work-arounds originate in China - they are not subject to DMCA or its EU equal. How so? NVidia's drivers never circumvented macrovision at all. They are now taking proactive steps to deny playback on devices that have chips not capable of inserting the macrovision data into the video signal whether or not those chips are enabled for use or not. ....and whether or not those chips are ACTUALLY THERE! I just saw this BS on a Shuttle MN31N with onboard dual-display, NO TV-OUT. Though I believe if you put the display in clone mode, DVD playback works, albeit without h/w accel. Essentially they are still f$cking people left and right who bought in... |
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tq96" wrote in message
... If NVIDIA didn't disable native/driver circumvention of Macrovision, they'd be in violation of the US DMCA. This is why most remaining software work-arounds originate in China - they are not subject to DMCA or its EU equal. How so? NVidia's drivers never circumvented macrovision at all. They are now taking proactive steps to deny playback on devices that have chips not capable of inserting the macrovision data into the video signal whether or not those chips are enabled for use or not. ....and whether or not those chips are ACTUALLY THERE! I just saw this BS on a Shuttle MN31N with onboard dual-display, NO TV-OUT. Though I believe if you put the display in clone mode, DVD playback works, albeit without h/w accel. Essentially they are still f$cking people left and right who bought in... |
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That's the point. The DMCA (and it EU equal) require that media-enabled
protections be implemented. You can't just say "this hardware is not compliant with the new law because it's old." My reading of the statute doesn't show a "grandfather" provison for hardware/software that is old but still supported (like the GeForce line of cards and the Detonator drivers). If the hardware does not support the protection (anti-copying device) as built and it is still supported, it is not in compliance with the law. As long as the software (drivers) do not allow copying, everything is OK. Disbaling the non-compliant function satisfies the law. It sucks, but governments (and the movie industry) don't care if they disable features on hardware as long as their IP is protected. Commo "tq96" wrote in message ... If NVIDIA didn't disable native/driver circumvention of Macrovision, they'd be in violation of the US DMCA. This is why most remaining software work-arounds originate in China - they are not subject to DMCA or its EU equal. How so? NVidia's drivers never circumvented macrovision at all. They are now taking proactive steps to deny playback on devices that have chips not capable of inserting the macrovision data into the video signal whether or not those chips are enabled for use or not. |
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That's the point. The DMCA (and it EU equal) require that
media-enabled protections be implemented. You can't just say "this What part of the DMCA requires that media-enable protections are mandatory? There is a provision in there about circumventing copy protection, but that is different from not being able to implement it. the non-compliant function satisfies the law. It sucks, but governments (and the movie industry) don't care if they disable features on hardware as long as their IP is protected. This is a joke anyway. It is much better to rip a DVD and make a duplicate than try to copy it through the TV out of a video card. Furthermore, NVidia shouldn't need to disable DVD playback on cards with non-complient TV chips if the chip in question isn't even in use. |
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