AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:40:10 +0000, John Doh! wrote:

On 5 Jul 2004 11:33:28 -0700, (Jason) wrote:

Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group
I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I
have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU
runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running.
Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees.

My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of
temperatures?

My company builds AMD 64-bit 3200 systems all the time and 65C is
perfectly normal at idle. All CPU's increase in temp when put under
pressure. Nothing to worry about, it's a very hot processor!

No. It's not perfectly normal. Max Tcase temp for the Athlon 63 is 70C. If
you're getting a true 65C, and it's probably not, then you're in for
problems. Mine runs at 35C Idle with stock cooler (3000+ 64). It did
shutdown somewhere over 60C when the fan died.

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"John Doh!" wrote in message
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My company builds AMD 64-bit 3200 systems all the time and 65C is
perfectly normal at idle. All CPU's increase in temp when put under
pressure. Nothing to worry about, it's a very hot processor!

I don't thing so, my system is

CPU 35c
System 32c

under load it only adds about 10-15c to that....

AMD64 3000+ on a Gigabyte K8NS Pro [250 chipset] with 1gig Kingston ram
Raid 0 [2x80gig seagate] DVD-rom, CDRW, DVD-RW & 2x120gig HD, FX5600

so it has a bit of hot gear in it....

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:57:08 GMT, Wes Newell
wrote:

No. It's not perfectly normal. Max Tcase temp for the Athlon 63 is 70C. If
you're getting a true 65C, and it's probably not, then you're in for
problems.

Unless it's the CPU die sensor temperature which is shown. The 70C
limit is the case temperature limit (of the heat spreader), and the
case temperature is quite a bit lower as the die temperature.

Most Athlon XP system are equipped with a separate socket sensor for
temperature display. AMD64 boards should be different, at least with
socket 940/939.

Here (socket 940) the die sensors show 50-52C when idle at 22C
ambient, with 5C more at full load (using die-temp controlled fans).

Gruss, Andreas

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:40:10 GMT, John Doh! wrote:
On 5 Jul 2004 11:33:28 -0700, (Jason) wrote:

Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group
I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I
have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU
runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running.
Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees.

My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of
temperatures?

My company builds AMD 64-bit 3200 systems all the time and 65C is
perfectly normal at idle. All CPU's increase in temp when put under
pressure. Nothing to worry about, it's a very hot processor!

So what do yours at 100% cpu load. I just have a store bought HP a530n
with AMD 64 3200+ and it rises about 10C between idle and full load (from
under 40C to under 50C at a warm 26C room temperature. But I just have
fixed speed fans.

If yours tried to rise 10C from 65C it would shut down at 70C (unless a
mobile 64 rated 95C). I certainly would not want to buy a PC from you.

The 32-bit AMDs do run hotter. I recently set up a Compaq with AMD XP
3000+ and CMOS setup showed it at 65C. I forget what it idled at, but it
topped out about 69C in the same warm 26C room. Not a problem because
higher speed 32-bit AMDs are rated 85C.

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Instead of continuing the thread with nonsense, you should read the previous
posts and learn that Athlon64 with NewCastle Core reports CPU temperature ~
20C higher than actual temp. If the systems your company builds actually
runs 65C, they should use Heatsink+Fan to cool the CPU. If they think that
CPU is running 65C and its okay, they should do some research before
building A64 systems and selling them to people and have people talk crap
about AMD Processors.
Take a look at this sheet.
http://home.comcast.net/~romanvp/cpu_history_big.gif Newcastle Max Die
Temp. 70C




"John Doh!" wrote in message
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On 5 Jul 2004 11:33:28 -0700, (Jason) wrote:

Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group
I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I
have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU
runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running.
Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees.

My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of
temperatures?

My company builds AMD 64-bit 3200 systems all the time and 65C is
perfectly normal at idle. All CPU's increase in temp when put under
pressure. Nothing to worry about, it's a very hot processor!

In article , Wes Newell wrote:
My company builds AMD 64-bit 3200 systems all the time and 65C is
perfectly normal at idle. All CPU's increase in temp when put under
pressure. Nothing to worry about, it's a very hot processor!

No. It's not perfectly normal. Max Tcase temp for the Athlon 63 is 70C. If
you're getting a true 65C, and it's probably not, then you're in for
problems. Mine runs at 35C Idle with stock cooler (3000+ 64). It did
shutdown somewhere over 60C when the fan died.

I have the same experience with the 3000+, it runs around 30-35 degrees.

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