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isolating new clone drive for 1st bootup
As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive
resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? *TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels wrote in message ... As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? Its not a great idea, plenty of systems dont like having a drive thats not getting power on the ribbon cable much. It is a kludge that does sort of work tho, and thats what quite a few removable drive bay systems do. |
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If the drives are on different IDE channels, you can disable the original's
channel in BIOS - Integrated Periphs. Setting the drive type to NONE does not work. Most of my newer IDE devices can have their power unplugged and not affect other system operation. "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? |
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"Rod Speed" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? Its not a great idea, plenty of systems dont like having a drive thats not getting power on the ribbon cable much. It is a kludge that does sort of work tho, and thats what quite a few removable drive bay systems do. I guess it's worth a try, then. The more I get into cloning HDs, the more I see how Microsoft put obstacles in the way of cloning by making it a hassle. *TimDaniels* |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? Its not a great idea, plenty of systems dont like having a drive thats not getting power on the ribbon cable much. It is a kludge that does sort of work tho, and thats what quite a few removable drive bay systems do. I guess it's worth a try, then. Yeah, it mostly does work. The more I get into cloning HDs, the more I see how Microsoft put obstacles in the way of cloning by making it a hassle. Basically because MS assumes that cloning will only be done much when replacing the boot drive and that having to unplug the original for the first boot after the clone is pretty much a non issue when upgrading the drive etc. There are other approaches like image files that work fine if you're cloning for backup etc. |
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My motherboard BIOS has an IDE Configuration
setting, and that might be a way to turn off 2 HDs by turning off one IDE channel, but... my HDs are on a SIIG controller card - whose BIOS is an undocumented unknown. Thanks for the info, though. *TimDaniels* "Eric Gisin" wrote: If the drives are on different IDE channels, you can disable the original's channel in BIOS - Integrated Periphs. Setting the drive type to NONE does not work. Most of my newer IDE devices can have their power unplugged and not affect other system operation. "Timothy Daniels" wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? |
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Or better yet just pick the drive to boot too in your BIOS.
Dan Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? *TimDaniels* |
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Angry American wrote in message ... Or better yet just pick the drive to boot too in your BIOS. Doesnt work when cloning the boot drive in the NT/2K/XP family. Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? *TimDaniels* |
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It does if you choose and isolate the particular drive. As long as the boot
files are on the root, it will work. Dan Rod Speed wrote: Angry American wrote in message ... Or better yet just pick the drive to boot too in your BIOS. Doesnt work when cloning the boot drive in the NT/2K/XP family. Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? *TimDaniels* |
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Angry American wrote in message ... It does if you choose and isolate the particular drive. Nothing like what you said. He was talking about HOW you isolate the original boot drive, not how you select which drive to boot off. As long as the boot files are on the root, it will work. Not if you dont make the original boot drive invisible to the OS for the first boot after the clone has been made. Rod Speed wrote: Angry American wrote in message ... Or better yet just pick the drive to boot too in your BIOS. Doesnt work when cloning the boot drive in the NT/2K/XP family. Timothy Daniels wrote: As Rod Speed has pointed out, the clone drive resulting from a cloning of a WinXP system HD should be the only drive with an a WinXP OS on an active partition when booting it up for the 1st time. (Thereafter it can "see" and be "seen" by another OS in the PC.) The hassle is that you have to open the case, disconnect the cables to the other drives, including the one that has just been cloned, boot up the new clone, and then, usually, open the case again and reconnect the other drives. It would be a lot easier if one could just shut down and then disconnect the other drives by use of a physical switch to break the connection with their power cables. That would avoid all the hassle of opening the case and unplugging the other drives. So, does anyone have any information that would indicate if switching the power cables would work? *TimDaniels* |
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