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First 64-bit AMD64 Windows virus emerges



 
 
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Old August 25th 04, 11:42 PM
Yousuf Khan
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Default First 64-bit AMD64 Windows virus emerges

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085

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Old August 26th 04, 01:33 AM
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:07 +0000, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085


Just another reason I don't use Windows.;-)

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Old August 26th 04, 03:04 PM
Jamco
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does that make you feel special?
thanks for sharing, idiot

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.00.32.54.541443@TAKEOUTverizon .net...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:07 +0000, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085


Just another reason I don't use Windows.;-)

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Old August 26th 04, 06:18 PM
Wes Newell
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:04:44 +0000, Jamco wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.00.32.54.541443@TAKEOUTverizon .net...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:07 +0000, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085


Just another reason I don't use Windows.;-)

does that make you feel special?
thanks for sharing, idiot

Fixed morons top post and failure to remove old sig line.. Now to the
point...

Get ****ed you stupid SOB. And that Son of a Bitch in case you can't
inderstand it you ****ing asshole.

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Old August 26th 04, 06:42 PM
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"Jamco" top posted:

does that make you feel special?
thanks for sharing, idiot


Said the stupid top poster.

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Old August 29th 04, 08:21 PM
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"Jamco" wrote in message
news:06mXc.11894$A8.8328@edtnps89...
does that make you feel special?
thanks for sharing, idiot

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.00.32.54.541443@TAKEOUTverizon .net...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:07 +0000, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085


Just another reason I don't use Windows.;-)

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Well that post that Wes Newell has done what you can`t do or understand. It
has informed people that even the AMD64 Cpu`s are not infallible when it
comes to virus`s and trojans.

I found the links very informative as i am sure other people have done also.
He has helped people to accertain what the information is about Virii and
the AMD64 platform.

What have you done but inform everyone what a plonker you are by top posting
and telling the poster in no incertain words that he is a idiot for doing
it.


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Old August 30th 04, 04:25 AM
Tony Hill
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC), "flossie"
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Well that post that Wes Newell has done what you can`t do or understand. It
has informed people that even the AMD64 Cpu`s are not infallible when it
comes to virus`s and trojans.

I found the links very informative as i am sure other people have done also.
He has helped people to accertain what the information is about Virii and
the AMD64 platform.


I don't think that anyone who know what was going on here ever doubted
that the AMD64 platform was still very much vulnerable to viruses.
However AMD's marketing department definitely needs this sort of
smacking upside the head for the sheer audacity of them calling their
no-execute bit "Virus protection" in the first place. That was a flat
out lie and it's good that they are being called on it.

That being said, it is a much needed feature that should have been
implemented ages ago (and implemented properly like AMD has done, not
the odd-ball segment protection scheme that Intel designed and
absolutely nobody used). It will help protect systems from certain
buffer overruns and remote exploits which, IMO, are a MUCH more
serious cause for concern than viruses. Viruses are *EXTREMELY* easy
to avoid if you know anything about how they work, but remotely
exploitable flaws in code are WAY more difficult to avoid (basically
impossible to avoid when the exploit is previously unknown and in some
server code that you need to be accessible from the internet).

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Old August 26th 04, 01:50 AM
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
http://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArt...cleId=30900082

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18085

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quote
The wire quotes Symantec as saying the proof of concept virus exists just to
show that iAMD64 machines are as vulnerable as any other computer platform.
/quote

Well duh, DEP isn't the virus cure all. It just helps protect you against
certain kinds of buffer attacks...

Carlo


 




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