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Old April 21st 04, 04:25 AM
Wayne Wastier
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Default Will the AMD64 3200+ work with only an Antec 300 Watt PSU?

I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little short
this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present PSU.


Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
AMD64 3200+ Retail


Wayne


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Old April 21st 04, 07:17 AM
Wes Newell
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:25:45 -0500, Wayne Wastier wrote:

I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little short
this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present PSU.


Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
AMD64 3200+ Retail

I doubt it. Mine wouldn't work on a 400watt that I ran my XP system on.
Not even close. I'm still using it in my XP system though without a
problem. For the 64 system I ordered 3 new PSU's, a 500W, 550W, and 600W.
The 500W was a Power Magic and it worked fine as did the others which were
Lead Power. The 500W was $15 shipped from amamax.com. So if you can scrape
up $15 you're in business. The 400W that didn't work was a Powerline.

http://www.amamax.com/psspecial2fnlp6100e.html

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Old April 21st 04, 07:30 AM
goblin
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Wes Newell wrote in
newsan.2004.04.21.06.19.08.395272@TAKEOUTverizon .net:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:25:45 -0500, Wayne Wastier wrote:

I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little
short this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present
PSU.


Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
AMD64 3200+ Retail

I doubt it. Mine wouldn't work on a 400watt that I ran my XP system
on. Not even close. I'm still using it in my XP system though without
a problem. For the 64 system I ordered 3 new PSU's, a 500W, 550W, and
600W. The 500W was a Power Magic and it worked fine as did the others
which were Lead Power. The 500W was $15 shipped from amamax.com. So if
you can scrape up $15 you're in business. The 400W that didn't work
was a Powerline.

http://www.amamax.com/psspecial2fnlp6100e.html


I have a 450W powering a64 3200+, 4 hard drives, cd burner, dvd burner,
wintv card, and usb camera. No problems and almost no heat either.

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Old April 21st 04, 01:12 PM
Angry American
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goblin wrote:
Wes Newell wrote in
newsan.2004.04.21.06.19.08.395272@TAKEOUTverizon .net:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:25:45 -0500, Wayne Wastier wrote:

I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little
short this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present
PSU.


Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
AMD64 3200+ Retail

I doubt it. Mine wouldn't work on a 400watt that I ran my XP system
on. Not even close. I'm still using it in my XP system though without
a problem. For the 64 system I ordered 3 new PSU's, a 500W, 550W, and
600W. The 500W was a Power Magic and it worked fine as did the others
which were Lead Power. The 500W was $15 shipped from amamax.com. So
if you can scrape up $15 you're in business. The 400W that didn't
work was a Powerline.

http://www.amamax.com/psspecial2fnlp6100e.html


I have a 450W powering a64 3200+, 4 hard drives, cd burner, dvd
burner, wintv card, and usb camera. No problems and almost no heat
either.


You probably don't have a 15 dollar cheap ass PSU either like Wes. You get
what you pay for. Most cheap PSU's ratings are usually junk, and in the real
world a 500 watt PSU would only put out 250 to 300 in normal room
temperatures. PC Power and Cooling is the only way to go for clean as
advertised power. There are two things a person should never skimp on in
building a PC, the PSU, and the Case. The case will be with you for several
systems, so it better be good, and your PSU as well is the "base" of your
system. Get a cheap one, and your system no matter how bad assed will still
be only mediocre. Spend the money on the basics, and your reliability and
satisfaction will be a lot better.

Dan

Dan


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Old April 21st 04, 09:44 PM
goblin
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"Angry American" wrote in
:

goblin wrote:
Wes Newell wrote in
newsan.2004.04.21.06.19.08.395272@TAKEOUTverizon .net:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:25:45 -0500, Wayne Wastier wrote:

I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are
little short this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my
present PSU.


Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
AMD64 3200+ Retail

I doubt it. Mine wouldn't work on a 400watt that I ran my XP system
on. Not even close. I'm still using it in my XP system though
without a problem. For the 64 system I ordered 3 new PSU's, a 500W,
550W, and 600W. The 500W was a Power Magic and it worked fine as did
the others which were Lead Power. The 500W was $15 shipped from
amamax.com. So if you can scrape up $15 you're in business. The 400W
that didn't work was a Powerline.

http://www.amamax.com/psspecial2fnlp6100e.html


I have a 450W powering a64 3200+, 4 hard drives, cd burner, dvd
burner, wintv card, and usb camera. No problems and almost no heat
either.


You probably don't have a 15 dollar cheap ass PSU either like Wes. You
get what you pay for. Most cheap PSU's ratings are usually junk, and
in the real world a 500 watt PSU would only put out 250 to 300 in
normal room temperatures. PC Power and Cooling is the only way to go
for clean as advertised power. There are two things a person should
never skimp on in building a PC, the PSU, and the Case. The case will
be with you for several systems, so it better be good, and your PSU as
well is the "base" of your system. Get a cheap one, and your system no
matter how bad assed will still be only mediocre. Spend the money on
the basics, and your reliability and satisfaction will be a lot
better.

Dan

Dan



True. I have a Raidmax case, $125 and worth every penny.

The only gripe I have is it didn't come with enough power connectors. I
had to add a couple extras myself since I didn't feel like driving 20
miles for just a couple Y-adapters.


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Old April 21st 04, 10:06 PM
Wes Newell
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:12:40 -0500, Angry American wrote:

You probably don't have a 15 dollar cheap ass PSU either like Wes. You get
what you pay for.


With this statement, you should change your handle to stupid American. And
the $15 PSU works just fine. It was the old 400W that didn't.

Most cheap PSU's ratings are usually junk, and in the real
world a 500 watt PSU would only put out 250 to 300 in normal room
temperatures.


You said it, so prove it. All PSU's that carry UL and all the other
ratings from all the other countries have to match the ratings to get
aproval. Not to say their aren't some bad units out there, but the
majority meet the specs And even if they're a little low, one can afford
to buy a larger rated PSU when they are cheap.

PC Power and Cooling is the only way to go for clean as advertised
power.


A self indulging statement if I ever saw one.

There are two things a person should never skimp on in building a
PC, the PSU, and the Case. The case will be with you for several
systems, so it better be good, and your PSU as well is the "base" of
your system. Get a cheap one, and your system no matter how bad assed
will still be only mediocre. Spend the money on the basics, and your
reliability and satisfaction will be a lot better.

So when am I supposed to start having problems with my test system that
doesn't even have a case? Give me a break. And it's been running on a $4
PSU for over 5 years. Hmmm....

You're right about one thing. One shouldn't skimp on the PSU or ram for
that matter. But not money wise, rating wise. If you think you need a 300W
psu, buy a 500W or higher. If you think you need PC3200 ram because that
what your MB states as supporting, buy PC3700 or faster. That way if you
need more speed or power, it's there.

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Old April 22nd 04, 04:07 AM
Angry American
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Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:12:40 -0500, Angry American wrote:

You probably don't have a 15 dollar cheap ass PSU either like Wes.
You get what you pay for.


With this statement, you should change your handle to stupid
American. And the $15 PSU works just fine. It was the old 400W that
didn't.

Most cheap PSU's ratings are usually junk, and in the real
world a 500 watt PSU would only put out 250 to 300 in normal room
temperatures.


You said it, so prove it. All PSU's that carry UL and all the other
ratings from all the other countries have to match the ratings to get
aproval. Not to say their aren't some bad units out there, but the
majority meet the specs And even if they're a little low, one can
afford to buy a larger rated PSU when they are cheap.

PC Power and Cooling is the only way to go for clean as advertised
power.


A self indulging statement if I ever saw one.

There are two things a person should never skimp on in building a
PC, the PSU, and the Case. The case will be with you for several
systems, so it better be good, and your PSU as well is the "base" of
your system. Get a cheap one, and your system no matter how bad assed
will still be only mediocre. Spend the money on the basics, and your
reliability and satisfaction will be a lot better.

So when am I supposed to start having problems with my test system
that doesn't even have a case? Give me a break. And it's been running
on a $4 PSU for over 5 years. Hmmm....

You're right about one thing. One shouldn't skimp on the PSU or ram
for that matter. But not money wise, rating wise. If you think you
need a 300W psu, buy a 500W or higher. If you think you need PC3200
ram because that what your MB states as supporting, buy PC3700 or
faster. That way if you need more speed or power, it's there.


Read the specs, and operating temps of any PSU, and compare them. Dollars to
Donuts the best will have the best components, and be a damn sight more
expensive. There is a reason why some items are pricier than others. If you
are willing to bet that a cheap part will last, then more power too you, but
for me, I buy the best I can afford. And that goes with anything in life.
Car parts, tools, etc. Quality counts, and usually saves you money in the
long run.

And by the way, no need for the personal bull****, I was not attacking you,
so chill out a bit.

Dan


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Old April 21st 04, 01:21 PM
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"Wayne Wastier" wrote in message
...
| I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little short
| this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present PSU.
|
|
| Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
| ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
| AMD64 3200+ Retail
|
|

If it is a GOOD 300w power supply with a true rating, then yes, it will work
flawlessly. If it is a cheap power "300w" power supply, then it is probably
only about 180-200 in real world conditions at best. I have a A64 3200+
running on a 350w enermax power supply without a hitch. Of note, that PC
also has DVD burner and DVD-rom, ATI 9800XT, two SATA hard drives, 4 90mm
fans, and one 80mm fan plugged directly in. I am not sure of the rating
system Antec uses, but there goods are typically respectable.


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Old April 21st 04, 04:43 PM
Wayne Wastier
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Thanks Jason. Here are the specs:

http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/p303xp_spe.html




"Jason Cothran" wrote in message
. ..

"Wayne Wastier" wrote in message
...
| I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little
short
| this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present PSU.
|
|
| Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
| ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
| AMD64 3200+ Retail
|
|

If it is a GOOD 300w power supply with a true rating, then yes, it will
work
flawlessly. If it is a cheap power "300w" power supply, then it is
probably
only about 180-200 in real world conditions at best. I have a A64 3200+
running on a 350w enermax power supply without a hitch. Of note, that PC
also has DVD burner and DVD-rom, ATI 9800XT, two SATA hard drives, 4 90mm
fans, and one 80mm fan plugged directly in. I am not sure of the rating
system Antec uses, but there goods are typically respectable.




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Old April 21st 04, 05:01 PM
General Schvantzkoph
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:43:06 -0500, Wayne Wastier wrote:

Thanks Jason. Here are the specs:

http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/p303xp_spe.html




"Jason Cothran" wrote in message
. ..

"Wayne Wastier" wrote in message
...
| I think I probably need to update my PSU, but... my funds are little
short
| this month, and so I wonder if it will work with my present PSU.
|
|
| Antec 300 Watt Model #:PP-303XP
| ABIT K8T800 KV8-MAX3 Retail
| AMD64 3200+ Retail
|
|

If it is a GOOD 300w power supply with a true rating, then yes, it will
work
flawlessly. If it is a cheap power "300w" power supply, then it is
probably
only about 180-200 in real world conditions at best. I have a A64 3200+
running on a 350w enermax power supply without a hitch. Of note, that PC
also has DVD burner and DVD-rom, ATI 9800XT, two SATA hard drives, 4 90mm
fans, and one 80mm fan plugged directly in. I am not sure of the rating
system Antec uses, but there goods are typically respectable.



It looks a little undersized. Does it have the extra 4 pin 12V connector?
(the 4 pin connector is on "P4" compatible supplies, you'll need it for an
AMD64 system also).
 




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