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Ghost 9.0's Copy Drive, Cloning & SP2
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply
clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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JP wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Why don't you just mirror the drives? -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"JP" wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) It doesn't matter if it's Cable Select or explicitly jumpered. If the Master disappears, the Slave will be next in line in the boot sequence automatically. Or you can set the boot sequence manually to put the Slave at the head of the boot sequence. In short, Master/Slave does not matter for booting. I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). [...........] I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. You may need Microsoft's .NET Framework re-installed. I use PowerQuest's Drive Copy 7.1, the precursor to Ghost 9.0, and it works fine with WinXP SP2. BTW, if you put the power cable for disk 1 on a DPST toggle switch, you won't have to disconnect its cables to switch to disk 2. If you toggle it OFF (while it's powered DOWN!), it won't be visible upon startup. But don't let disk 2's WinXP clone see it again until the clone has been booted up for the 1st time in isolation, or the clone will forever depend on the continued presence of the original in order to function. (This latter fact was contributed by a poster here named Rod Speed.) *TimDaniels* |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
: JP wrote: I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Why don't you just mirror the drives? Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives? |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in
: "JP" wrote: I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) It doesn't matter if it's Cable Select or explicitly jumpered. If the Master disappears, the Slave will be next in line in the boot sequence automatically. Or you can set the boot sequence manually to put the Slave at the head of the boot sequence. In short, Master/Slave does not matter for booting. I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). [...........] I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. You may need Microsoft's .NET Framework re-installed. I use PowerQuest's Drive Copy 7.1, the precursor to Ghost 9.0, and it works fine with WinXP SP2. BTW, if you put the power cable for disk 1 on a DPST toggle switch, you won't have to disconnect its cables to switch to disk 2. If you toggle it OFF (while it's powered DOWN!), it won't be visible upon startup. But don't let disk 2's WinXP clone see it again until the clone has been booted up for the 1st time in isolation, or the clone will forever depend on the continued presence of the original in order to function. (This latter fact was contributed by a poster here named Rod Speed.) *TimDaniels* Tim: I didn't know that about the boot sequence. Thanks. I'll keep all that in mind if I'm ever able to once again clone my C: drive to D: like I used to do. Also it's very interesting that you are using PQ's DriveCopy 7.1 with SP2. I was using DriveImage (which includes DriveCopy) 2002. I don't know if that's earlier or later than your version 7.1 as I can find no other version number. If you or someone else knows, please let me know. Also, how would you reinstall (only?) ..NET Framework? Anyway, it is encouraging that you are using PQ's DriveCopy. I am going to try again to get it to work for me. Thanks again. |
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JP wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in : JP wrote: I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Why don't you just mirror the drives? Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives? If you are running Linux or any server version of Windows the capability is native in the operating system. If not then you need a disk controller that supports that. Many motherboards come with the capability built in. If yours doesn't then take a look at the Promise, Highpoint, 3Ware, LSI Logic, and Tekram sites for a wide range of solutions. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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JP wrote:
I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. What are "error message E7C3000F among other problems"...? The SnapShot technology is, in your case, apparently not able to take a snapshot of those sectors that show problems... So what "time-consuming possible solutions which costed you hours of testing ...." have you tried...? -- M.f.G. Michael Kimmer "Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag" "Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht" |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
: JP wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : JP wrote: I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Why don't you just mirror the drives? Thanks, John, for your reply. But how do I mirror the drives? If you are running Linux or any server version of Windows the capability is native in the operating system. If not then you need a disk controller that supports that. Many motherboards come with the capability built in. If yours doesn't then take a look at the Promise, Highpoint, 3Ware, LSI Logic, and Tekram sites for a wide range of solutions. Thanks again John, I'll look into that. |
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"Michael Kimmer" wrote in
: JP wrote: I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C: drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:, adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else. (This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible solutions which cost me many hours of testing to no avail. I even used Memtest86. I see a lot of information on imaging on these boards but very little on simply copying (cloning) one internal hard drive to another. I looked into Seagate's DiskWizard, but the folks there correctly state that it's not made for this and it doesn't quite work right for cloning. Drive Snapshot apparently does not have this capability. I'm looking for a program that will do what PowerQuest's DriveCopy did, and after cloning I need to be able to immediately test the results by powering down, switching the data cable from C: to D:, boot into the BIOS then directly into XP with exactly what I had on the old C:---just like I used to do when I would test DriveCopy's clone. And I need this program to be known to work with SP2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. What are "error message E7C3000F among other problems"...? The SnapShot technology is, in your case, apparently not able to take a snapshot of those sectors that show problems... So what "time-consuming possible solutions which costed you hours of testing ..." have you tried...? Michael, thank you for your reply. About five minutes into the copy routine everything stopped and I received Error E7C3000F. At the beginning of the reboot I got a blue screen stating, in part: Deleting orphan file record segment xxxx.... (This scrolled by counting about 200,000 files.) Then it stated: Correcting orphan file record segment xxx.... (Another scroll with many files.) Deleting index entry xxxx (many files) Recovering orphaned file xxxx...(many files) Replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxxx.....(many files) Chkdsk.... Along with the previously mentioned efforts, Symantec sent the following, which I thoroughly followed even though they began by stating that "there is no current solution." --- Thank you for contacting Symantec Online Technical Support I apologize for the inconveniences you are currently facing. From your post, I understand that you were previously using Drive Image 2002 to copy your primary hard drive to another hard drive and after installing Norton Ghost 9.0when you tried to perform the same operation you are encountering an error message with code E7C3000F. And on reboot after the failed process you notice that Windows performs as check on the disk and reported errors on files. I regret to inform you that this issue is currently under investigation by Symantec and the cause of this issue is unknown and there is no current solution at this point of time. However in order to further troubleshoot this issue and reach at a solution, please refer to the following workarounds: 1. Run CHKDSK on the source drive: Please note that this issues can occur if your hard drive surface is damaged. In order to make sure that your hard disk surface is not damaged, I suggest that you please run CHKDSK with the appropriate switches on DOS mode. To do so, please refer to the following document provided in the link below: Title: 'How to run Microsoft CHKDSK from the command line' Document ID: 2004066687571562 Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/Support...20040666875715 62 Note: Please refer to the above document to resolve your issue, please ignore the products that are supported by the above document. 2. Optimize your system: This issue can also occur if there is some resource conflicts with other programs and Symantec programs. In order to eliminate any system resource conflicts, I suggest that you please optimize your system resources and check whether the issue gets resolved. To do so, please refer to the following document provided in the link below: Title: 'Basic guide to optimizing system resources' Document ID: 2002061015214139 Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/support...00206101521413 9 After performing the above steps, please perform the operation of Copy Drive again and check whether this issue is resolved. And if you wish to know how to copy a disk to disk using the Copy Drive feature with appropriate options, please refer to the following document provided in the link below: Title: 'How to copy disk-to-disk using Norton Ghost 9.0' Document ID: 2004111701520562 Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/Support...20041117015205 62 Please let me know if the issue has been resolved. Regards, Arun Kumar Symantec Authorized Technical Support --- I'm still looking for a program other than Ghost that will work with XP SP2 and be capable of copying (cloning, not imaging) one internal hard drive to another, as I am not confident that I can resolve this issue with Ghost. Thanks |
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"JP" wrote:
[......] it's very interesting that you are using PQ's DriveCopy 7.1 with SP2. I was using DriveImage (which includes DriveCopy) 2002. I don't know if that's earlier or later than your version 7.1 as I can find no other version number. If you or someone else knows, please let me know. Drive Image 7.0 was the last version issued on CD by PowerQuest (that I know of). Versions 7.1 and 7.2 (possibly called "7.01" and "7.02" were downloadable fixes to bugs in 7.0 . The included copy of Drive Image 2002 worked only miserably for me as it wouldn't do DMA and it took more than an hour to copy 20GB. When I finally figured out what .NET Framework was and how to get it, its installation solved the version 7.0 problem. Also, how would you reinstall (only?) .NET Framework? Start/Settings/Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/ Microsoft .NET Framework/Remove Then download another copy from Microsoft and install it again. For version 1.1 of the .NET Framework Redistributable Package, go to: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en If that doesn't work, try re-installing Ghost 9.0, as it's possible that it might need Framework to already be there when it's installed. (In fact, the PowerQuest User's Guide said that explicitly.) *TimDaniels* |
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