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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
... "Bob Davis" wrote: "Anna" DO NOT BOOT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CLONING OPERATION WITH BOTH DRIVES CONNECTED. It might be worth noting that you can leave both drives connected in the Win98SE environment. I did it weekly for years without any trouble, but no longer use this method in XP. There have been lots of comments on this. This need to hide the "parent" OS when the clone is first run seems to have come about with WinXP - the same time activation reared its smarmy head. I've always suspected that it was a sneak by Microsoft to discourage cloning of its OSes. We may get a better idea of how low Microsoft will stoop when Vista finally surfaces and people try to clone it (for personal backups, of course). *TimDaniels* Hi Tim...you and I discussed this same crap over a year ago..small world..only Rod wasnt there.. http://www.mcse.ms/message1367497.html BTW: I emailed this last night by mistake instead of posting it, sorry. ================================================== ===================== Beemer Biker http://ResearchRiders.org Ask about my 99'R1100RT http://TipsForTheComputingImpaired.com ================================================== ===================== |
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"Beemer Biker" wrote in message
http://www.mcse.ms/message1367497.html That link is broken, might have been cached when I hit it last night, try this one http://www.mcse.ms/archive65-2005-1-1367497.html I probably should have used google groups for Microsoft.pubic since they carry it. Maybe one of these days I will learn, it came from googleing "pagefile mbr". One thing I am sure of is that at Rod's speed, he has undoubtedly forgotten more than I have learned. -- ================================================== ===================== Beemer Biker http://ResearchRiders.org Ask about my 99'R1100RT http://TipsForTheComputingImpaired.com ================================================== ===================== |
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On 24 Mar 2006 15:30:11 -0800, wrote:
WOW - this thread has really gotten some legs. Thanks to all for the advice and guidance - I may try the Ghost route, snip I've seen this happen with Ghost, too. I doubt it will matter whether you use Ghost or Acronis. Now that I think about it, of the last 5 drives I've cloned (a mix of Ghost 2003, Acronis 9.0 and Acronis 8.0 on a Bart PE CD) I've had to "fdisk /mbr" two of them to get them to boot. Honestly, I didn't pay any attention as to the order and whether or not "new" drive could "see" old drive at first boot. I just know that sometimes I had to do an fdisk /mbr to get the new drive to boot. I originally found the suggestion on the "radified" site: http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaB...m=11226082 59 But, it was long enough ago that there wasn't an explanation as to why fdisk /mbr worked. Recently, my son had the same situation and found this as a possible explanation: http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/partsigs.htm#method3 And, while I have Acronis True Image Server for Windows 8.0 on our Windows 2003 server, I haven't had opportunity to clone a drive on that yet. And since it's a RAID configuration, I doubt I will. BTW, you started this thread asking about the "best cloning method". Then when you started having booting problems, you started a new thread "Cloned but FUBAR, help!!!". Then you went back to the original thread to further discuss your booting problem. It might have been easier to follow this if you had stuck with one or the other - just a suggestion. Bill |
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"Beemer Biker" wrote:
Hi Tim...you and I discussed this same crap over a year ago..small world..only Rod wasnt there.. http://www.mcse.ms/message1367497.html That's the beautiful and the ugly thing about the Internet - nothing ever dies or fades away! :-) Do you ride a 2-jug or lazy-4 Beemer? *TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
Rod Speed wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote I didn't say the clone mixing problem had anything to do with the activation mechanism, but rather that it coincided with Microsoft's new efforts at dicouraging pirating No it didnt. 2K has the same problem when cloning and there is no activation with 2K. XP Corp has no activation and has the same problem when cloning. - which is how Microsoft views clones that can be multi-booted. Wrong again. The reactivation is only necessary when the hardware changes significantly and a boot drive change isnt enough to require reactivation. Microsoft's opinion of cloning has nothing to do with activation. Pity you just pig ignorantly claimed that it does. It has to do with its EULA and its view that multiple "installations" of its Windows OS with only one license is pirating. Wrong, as always. There is nothing contrary to the EULA with multiple installs on the one system and the XP validation doesnt even attempt to prevent them. Numerous times in the microsoft NGs, legions of angry MVPs have insisted that the EULA prohibits bootable clones because a clone is an runnable "installation" of an OS, and only one "installation" is allowed by the EULA under one license. They're wrong, and MS has never said that and the XP validation doesnt check for that. Of course, I don't agree with that opinion for several legal reasons, but that is apparently what Microsoft contends until shown otherwise by a court decision. You dont have a shred of evidence that that is what MS actually 'contends' at all. |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
. .. "Beemer Biker" wrote: Hi Tim...you and I discussed this same crap over a year ago..small world..only Rod wasnt there.. http://www.mcse.ms/message1367497.html That's the beautiful and the ugly thing about the Internet - nothing ever dies or fades away! :-) Do you ride a 2-jug or lazy-4 Beemer? I have the boxer 1100 http://tinyurl.com/5c7uk and have put 60,000 miles on it, mostly commuting to work, since '99. I spent the last weekend and this one looking at new bikes. Spring is starting, and Harley and others dealers near san antonio are having open houses and freebies. I stopped at two harley dealers, honda, bad dog, american iron horse, and yamaha. Also stopped at bmw. I thought that bmw was always overpriced although their bikes are good, but American Iron horse and Bad Dog start where bmw leaves off I cant see putting down $25K for something that wont make it past the first gas station and no room on the seat for the wife. -- ================================================== ===================== Beemer Biker http://ResearchRiders.org Ask about my 99'R1100RT http://TipsForTheComputingImpaired.com ================================================== ===================== |
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Peter wrote:
Hope I'm not going off topic here but - I'd recommend using VMware Server (formerly known as GSX). It's now free! BETA = no support. Then get the non-beta payware version. GEEZ, some people will complain about anything. I haven't used it yet but I did use VMware Player for a bit and there was no problem. What problem? What part of "no problem" are you having trouble with? Using a virtual machine is more convenient than cloning the hard disk. If your PC motherboard fails, the cloned hard disk is unlikely to be bootable on different hardware. A virtual machine isolates you from that. You mean I can run virtual machine with no hardware? No, you can move a virtual machine from one piece of hardware to another without having to reconfigure it. You can stop the virtual machine, copy out the image files, and that's your complete portable system backup that you can run on any new hardware, even with a different PC brand. Almost. Almost? If the hardware supports vmware player you can run the virtual machine. You can even run a Virtual PC virtual machine under vmware player. Only limitation you're likely to run into would be if the virtual machine has a 64-bit OS and you try to run it on 32-bit physical hardware--that won't work. Best if you're setting up a machine for the first time. Install some free Linux to save on license costs, install VMware Server, boot a virtual machine install from CD (Windows or Linux, whatever, your actual running OS). And I would not need a license for Windows running on VM? Is that true? Depends on your definition of "need". Once you have activated XP in a virtual machine you can move that virtual machine from one physical machine to another without having to reactivate. Doing this in such a manner that it is running on two physical machines simultaneously is a violation of the Microsoft license, but there is nothing in the software that prevents you from doing it. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Beemer Biker" wrote:
I have the boxer 1100 http://tinyurl.com/5c7uk and have put 60,000 miles on it, mostly commuting to work, since '99. I spent the last weekend and this one looking at new bikes. Spring is starting, and Harley and others dealers near san antonio are having open houses and freebies. I stopped at two harley dealers, honda, bad dog, american iron horse, and yamaha. Also stopped at bmw. I thought that bmw was always overpriced although their bikes are good, but American Iron horse and Bad Dog start where bmw leaves off I cant see putting down $25K for something that wont make it past the first gas station and no room on the seat for the wife. The California Highway Patrol and the L.A. Police Dept. dropped Harleys decades ago because of performance and reliability problems and went with Honda and Kawasaki. That still wasn't reliable enough for the CHP, so they eventually went with BMW. It seems that the Chippers don't like their ride sitting in the shop or breaking down out on the road and the Bimmer's higher price was worth it. I for one, though, dread the congestion of L.A. traffic and the crazies who try to run you off the road, and I've resigned myself to driving a cage. *TimDaniels* |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
... "Beemer Biker" wrote: I have the boxer 1100 http://tinyurl.com/5c7uk and have put 60,000 miles on it, mostly commuting to work, since '99. I spent the last weekend and this one looking at new bikes. Spring is starting, and Harley and others dealers near san antonio are having open houses and freebies. I stopped at two harley dealers, honda, bad dog, american iron horse, and yamaha. Also stopped at bmw. I thought that bmw was always overpriced although their bikes are good, but American Iron horse and Bad Dog start where bmw leaves off I cant see putting down $25K for something that wont make it past the first gas station and no room on the seat for the wife. The California Highway Patrol and the L.A. Police Dept. dropped Harleys decades ago because of performance HD sells an image. CHP could possibly use a better image, but HD wont help. and reliability problems and went with Honda and Kawasaki. That still wasn't reliable enough for the CHP, so they eventually went with BMW. It seems that the Chippers don't like their ride sitting in the shop or breaking down out on the road and the Bimmer's higher price was worth it. I for one, yes, but the one like I got is air cooled and would quickly overheat when left running (which the cop normally has to do). I see those CHP beamers (bimmer is a cage) sold on ebay all the time. They are cheap, but have been modified and you got to add a rear seat, but the price is good. though, dread the congestion of L.A. traffic and the crazies texas did not get the lane sharing bill passed. even though our gov rides a motorcycle, he didnt support the lane splitting bill nor much else motorcycle related. Of course, when he does go out for a ride, he gets a police escort to clear the way for his harley http://tinyurl.com/mr7jp who try to run you off the road, and I've resigned myself to driving a cage. *TimDaniels* -- ================================================== ===================== Beemer Biker http://ResearchRiders.org Ask about my 99'R1100RT http://TipsForTheComputingImpaired.com ================================================== ===================== |
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"Beemer Biker" wrote in message ... I have the boxer 1100 http://tinyurl.com/5c7uk and have put 60,000 miles on it, mostly commuting to work, since '99. I spent the last weekend and this one looking at new bikes. Spring is starting, and Harley and others dealers near san antonio are having open houses and freebies. I stopped at two harley dealers, honda, bad dog, american iron horse, and yamaha. Also stopped at bmw. I thought that bmw was always overpriced although their bikes are good, but American Iron horse and Bad Dog start where bmw leaves off I cant see putting down $25K for something that wont make it past the first gas station and no room on the seat for the wife. A fellow biker and friend has a GS, and my ride is a '96 Road King, now with 101k trouble-free miles. It's been in 33 states in the U.S. and Canada and we're making a trek to the Hill Country of Texas in two weeks. Great bike, and the best I've owned so far. |
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