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Old May 4th 04, 12:45 AM
Hop
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Default Power Supplies Going up in smoke!

I have a system with an AMD 64 3400+ on a K8T Neo MSI mainboard.
Have two SATA WD 120 gig in a raid 0 on the VIA chipset, not the promise!
Have 2 sticks infineon 512 meg pc3200 in dual channel, a Lite on DVD and
a Lite on CDRW, a SB Audigy 2 and an MSI 5900 Ultra XT with 256 megs...
The thing is blazing fast, and stuffed into a Foxconn mid tower with a 450
watt
power supply. The first pwsupply went out while running SiSoft burn in ....
and I figured I caught a weak component. I replaced that one with a 420 watt
Codegen and that one went up in less than 12 hours run time...
I have a 600 watt coming, but I would like to hear from the group on
possible
causes and things to look out for... Like I said this beast is VERY fast but
it gets
a little expensive feeding it power supplies... Thanks in advance...


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Old May 4th 04, 01:39 AM
Jason Cothran
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"Hop" wrote in message
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| I have a system with an AMD 64 3400+ on a K8T Neo MSI mainboard.
| Have two SATA WD 120 gig in a raid 0 on the VIA chipset, not the promise!
| Have 2 sticks infineon 512 meg pc3200 in dual channel, a Lite on DVD and
| a Lite on CDRW, a SB Audigy 2 and an MSI 5900 Ultra XT with 256 megs...
| The thing is blazing fast, and stuffed into a Foxconn mid tower with a
450
| watt
| power supply. The first pwsupply went out while running SiSoft burn in
.....
| and I figured I caught a weak component. I replaced that one with a 420
watt
| Codegen and that one went up in less than 12 hours run time...
| I have a 600 watt coming, but I would like to hear from the group on
| possible
| causes and things to look out for... Like I said this beast is VERY fast
but
| it gets
| a little expensive feeding it power supplies... Thanks in advance...
|

Assuming everything is OK with input power to the PSU, you have a bad
component pulling too many amps off the power supply frying them.


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Old May 4th 04, 02:20 AM
Craig Coope
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"Hop" wrote in message
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I have a system with an AMD 64 3400+ on a K8T Neo MSI mainboard.
Have two SATA WD 120 gig in a raid 0 on the VIA chipset, not the promise!
Have 2 sticks infineon 512 meg pc3200 in dual channel, a Lite on DVD and
a Lite on CDRW, a SB Audigy 2 and an MSI 5900 Ultra XT with 256 megs...
The thing is blazing fast, and stuffed into a Foxconn mid tower with a

450
watt
power supply. The first pwsupply went out while running SiSoft burn in

.....
and I figured I caught a weak component. I replaced that one with a 420

watt
Codegen and that one went up in less than 12 hours run time...
I have a 600 watt coming, but I would like to hear from the group on
possible
causes and things to look out for... Like I said this beast is VERY fast

but
it gets
a little expensive feeding it power supplies... Thanks in advance...


I have just sent back my A64 3400+ because it had cold boot problems (I
suspect the PSU) but it was only 340W...but it was supposed to be AMD
rated.....

Now I bet I get a replacment that does the exact same thing....if I do I
will be kicking up a stink...

We will see....

Craig...


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Old May 4th 04, 03:09 AM
Peter van der Goes
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"Craig Coope" wrote in message
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I have just sent back my A64 3400+ because it had cold boot problems (I
suspect the PSU) but it was only 340W...but it was supposed to be AMD
rated.....

Now I bet I get a replacment that does the exact same thing....if I do I
will be kicking up a stink...

We will see....

Craig...

I have to ask. The PSU is "AMD rated" for what CPU's? And is the claim of
"AMD Rated" corroborated by what you find on the AMD web site? I've seen a
lot of ads for PSU's claiming "AMD Approved" or whatever. only to find the
approval is for same brand different model or limited to lesser CPU's.
If your system is like the OP's, high end video, multiple drives, etc., it's
going to draw a lot of juice on startup. If your symptom was: no boot from
cold, but OK on reboot, it was likely the PSU.


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Old May 4th 04, 08:13 PM
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"Peter van der Goes" wrote in message
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"Craig Coope" wrote in message
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I have just sent back my A64 3400+ because it had cold boot problems (I
suspect the PSU) but it was only 340W...but it was supposed to be AMD
rated.....

Now I bet I get a replacment that does the exact same thing....if I do I
will be kicking up a stink...

We will see....

Craig...

I have to ask. The PSU is "AMD rated" for what CPU's? And is the claim of
"AMD Rated" corroborated by what you find on the AMD web site? I've seen a
lot of ads for PSU's claiming "AMD Approved" or whatever. only to find the
approval is for same brand different model or limited to lesser CPU's.
If your system is like the OP's, high end video, multiple drives, etc.,

it's
going to draw a lot of juice on startup. If your symptom was: no boot from
cold, but OK on reboot, it was likely the PSU.


The compnay I have bought from have only just started selling the newer A64s
so it is likely (going by the company's reputation) that they are
underestimating the power needed for the system....but I can't test out the
theory as the only other PSU I have is 300W and not higher than 340W...

The PC has been sent back today so I will find out what the problem was (I
hope) on Friday or so......

Craig...




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Old May 4th 04, 08:31 PM
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The PC has been sent back today so I will find out what the problem was (I
hope) on Friday or so......

Craig...

My bad, Craig.
I was assuming components, not an entire computer. So, when you said you'd
returned it, I was thinking you had returned the CPU.
Now, it all makes sense...


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Old May 4th 04, 08:49 PM
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The PC has been sent back today so I will find out what the problem was

(I
hope) on Friday or so......

Craig...

My bad, Craig.
I was assuming components, not an entire computer. So, when you said you'd
returned it, I was thinking you had returned the CPU.
Now, it all makes sense...



DOH
yea, you shoulda seen what I sent him via email
Hey Craig, I am sorry too! ..
It's not you that's a moron, it's your system builder!


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Old May 4th 04, 04:35 AM
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Craig, Newegg.com has an Enermax 420watt PSU that states it supports AMD 64
chip based systems, and it is less than 70.00


Wayne


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Old May 4th 04, 06:08 AM
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"Wayne @ W." wrote in message
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Craig, Newegg.com has an Enermax 420watt PSU that states it supports AMD

64
chip based systems, and it is less than 70.00

If you're going to get one of those new nvidia monster cards, maybe a 550
would be better.


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Old May 4th 04, 07:46 AM
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Naw, not needed. LOL Most people only have ONE Hard Drive, and one
Graphics card that has no power connector needed. LOL


"Ed Light" wrote in message
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"Wayne @ W." wrote in message
...
Craig, Newegg.com has an Enermax 420watt PSU that states it supports AMD

64
chip based systems, and it is less than 70.00

If you're going to get one of those new nvidia monster cards, maybe a 550
would be better.


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