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Peculiar RAM problems with an old Asus mobo setup?!?
I'm have an odd prblem with the memory in one of my PCs. The PC in
questiion is built around an ASUS P3B-F mobo with a P2 450Mhz CPU and 2 sticks of Crucial 256Mb SDRAM PC133....OS is Win98. Large programs flag up a "not enogh memory" window and starting a game (like Mobile Rally 1) flags a different window with loads of numbers and something about low memory. I ran Norton to see if there was any problems with any hardware and sure enough the memory fails its test almost immediately. OK, so I think I've got one dead stick of SDRAM and all I have to do is change it. Now here's where things start to get odd. The 2 stick of SDRAM sit in DIMM slots 0 and 1. So I removed the stick from slot 1 and started the PC. PC saw it had only 256Mb of RAM. Ran Norton on it, waited and it passed. Then I pull out the stick in slot 0 and take the stick that was in slot 1 and put into slot 0. I got exactly the same test result as the first time on one stick....which means nothing wrong with either memory stick. So leaving the stick from slot 1 in slot 0, I put the stick originally from slot 0 into slot 1. So now they're in the opposite way round to what they were origanlly. Switched the PC on, say it has 516Mb of RAM and then run Norton.....the memory fails the test immediately. OK, this time I move the stick now in slot 1 to slot 2. PC still says it has 516Mb of RAM, so it knows it's there, but fails the Norton test again!!! What on earth is going on??? I don't think it could be a dusty DIMM slot, the mobo is pretty dust free. The memory works fine if there's either stick inside, but together they fail and I get all the problems when using games and large progs as mentioned in the beginning. Cheers, Darth Joules |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:07:16 GMT, Knowing that it was a Hollywood
invention that lemmings jump off cliffs le (Darth Joules) wrote : I'm have an odd prblem with the memory in one of my PCs. The PC in questiion is built around an ASUS P3B-F mobo with a P2 450Mhz CPU and 2 sticks of Crucial 256Mb SDRAM PC133....OS is Win98. Large programs flag up a "not enogh memory" window and starting a game (like Mobile Rally 1) flags a different window with loads of numbers and something about low memory. I ran Norton to see if there was any problems with any hardware and sure enough the memory fails its test almost immediately. OK, so I think I've got one dead stick of SDRAM and all I have to do is change it. Now here's where things start to get odd. The 2 stick of SDRAM sit in DIMM slots 0 and 1. So I removed the stick from slot 1 and started the PC. PC saw it had only 256Mb of RAM. Ran Norton on it, waited and it passed. Then I pull out the stick in slot 0 and take the stick that was in slot 1 and put into slot 0. I got exactly the same test result as the first time on one stick....which means nothing wrong with either memory stick. So leaving the stick from slot 1 in slot 0, I put the stick originally from slot 0 into slot 1. So now they're in the opposite way round to what they were origanlly. Switched the PC on, say it has 516Mb of RAM and then run Norton.....the memory fails the test immediately. OK, this time I move the stick now in slot 1 to slot 2. PC still says it has 516Mb of RAM, so it knows it's there, but fails the Norton test again!!! What on earth is going on??? I don't think it could be a dusty DIMM slot, the mobo is pretty dust free. The memory works fine if there's either stick inside, but together they fail and I get all the problems when using games and large progs as mentioned in the beginning. Cheers, Darth Joules "Out-Of-Memory" calls in windows although can be RAM are more usually not enough disk space to allow the Virtual Memory to run or programs running the background that are badly installed/badly written/out-of-date or have compatibility problems with windows or another program running. 1st trim your start up group, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/startup.html http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup...artup_full.htm http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html Then clean and compact the Registry, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/house.html Then delete the win386.swp from dos just in case it's damaged and on re-boot windows will make a new repaired one as per, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/easy.html HTH -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html It's a G not a J in gmx for email Free songs download, http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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Darth Joules wrote:
I'm have an odd prblem with the memory in one of my PCs. The PC in questiion is built around an ASUS P3B-F mobo with a P2 450Mhz CPU and 2 sticks of Crucial 256Mb SDRAM PC133....OS is Win98. Large programs flag up a "not enogh memory" window and starting a game (like Mobile Rally 1) flags a different window with loads of numbers and something about low memory. I ran Norton to see if there was any problems with any hardware and sure enough the memory fails its test almost immediately. OK, so I think I've got one dead stick of SDRAM and all I have to do is change it. Now here's where things start to get odd. The 2 stick of SDRAM sit in DIMM slots 0 and 1. So I removed the stick from slot 1 and started the PC. PC saw it had only 256Mb of RAM. Ran Norton on it, waited and it passed. Then I pull out the stick in slot 0 and take the stick that was in slot 1 and put into slot 0. I got exactly the same test result as the first time on one stick....which means nothing wrong with either memory stick. So leaving the stick from slot 1 in slot 0, I put the stick originally from slot 0 into slot 1. So now they're in the opposite way round to what they were origanlly. Switched the PC on, say it has 516Mb of RAM and then run Norton.....the memory fails the test immediately. OK, this time I move the stick now in slot 1 to slot 2. PC still says it has 516Mb of RAM, so it knows it's there, but fails the Norton test again!!! What on earth is going on??? I don't think it could be a dusty DIMM slot, the mobo is pretty dust free. The memory works fine if there's either stick inside, but together they fail and I get all the problems when using games and large progs as mentioned in the beginning. Cheers, Darth Joules .. Norton Diagnostics' memory tester has a known problem with more than 256MB: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...99090713442709 They test OK one at a time, so your DIMMs are probably fine. Windows 9x/Me have Vcache related problems when lots of memory is installed. Try this: Open SYSTEM.INI in a plain text editor such as Notepad or Sysedit, go to the [vcache] section and edit/add the setting to limit Vcache to less than 512MB(524288 KB). The amount must be entered in KB's. "MaxFileCache=512000" would limit it to a maximum of 500MB. In SYSTEM.INI, it would look like this: [vcache] MaxFileCache=512000 Try some lower settings if you wish. You may find that the system will be more responsive with a lower setting. |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:34:43 GMT, Knowing that it was a Hollywood
invention that lemmings jump off cliffs "steven67@" wrote : Darth Joules wrote: I'm have an odd prblem with the memory in one of my PCs. The PC in questiion is built around an ASUS P3B-F mobo with a P2 450Mhz CPU and 2 sticks of Crucial 256Mb SDRAM PC133....OS is Win98. Large programs flag up a "not enogh memory" window and starting a game (like Mobile Rally 1) flags a different window with loads of numbers and something about low memory. I ran Norton to see if there was any problems with any hardware and sure enough the memory fails its test almost immediately. OK, so I think I've got one dead stick of SDRAM and all I have to do is change it. Now here's where things start to get odd. The 2 stick of SDRAM sit in DIMM slots 0 and 1. So I removed the stick from slot 1 and started the PC. PC saw it had only 256Mb of RAM. Ran Norton on it, waited and it passed. Then I pull out the stick in slot 0 and take the stick that was in slot 1 and put into slot 0. I got exactly the same test result as the first time on one stick....which means nothing wrong with either memory stick. So leaving the stick from slot 1 in slot 0, I put the stick originally from slot 0 into slot 1. So now they're in the opposite way round to what they were origanlly. Switched the PC on, say it has 516Mb of RAM and then run Norton.....the memory fails the test immediately. OK, this time I move the stick now in slot 1 to slot 2. PC still says it has 516Mb of RAM, so it knows it's there, but fails the Norton test again!!! What on earth is going on??? I don't think it could be a dusty DIMM slot, the mobo is pretty dust free. The memory works fine if there's either stick inside, but together they fail and I get all the problems when using games and large progs as mentioned in the beginning. Cheers, Darth Joules . Norton Diagnostics' memory tester has a known problem with more than 256MB: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...99090713442709 They test OK one at a time, so your DIMMs are probably fine. Windows 9x/Me have Vcache related problems when lots of memory is installed. Try this: Open SYSTEM.INI in a plain text editor such as Notepad or Sysedit, go to the [vcache] section and edit/add the setting to limit Vcache to less than 512MB(524288 KB). The amount must be entered in KB's. "MaxFileCache=512000" would limit it to a maximum of 500MB. In SYSTEM.INI, it would look like this: [vcache] MaxFileCache=512000 Try some lower settings if you wish. You may find that the system will be more responsive with a lower setting. This fix is only required in Win9X/ME systems with 512 meg of RAM as it's minor bug in the Window's Vcache.OP has only 512 so this is not the issue. HTH -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html It's a G not a J in gmx for email Free songs download, http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:07:16 GMT, le (Darth
Joules) wrote: I'm have an odd prblem with the memory in one of my PCs. the second stick put it in the last slot; worth a try .. -- Regards, SPAJKY & visit site - http://www.spajky.vze.com Celly-III OC-ed,"Tualatin on BX-Slot1-MoBo!" E-mail AntiSpam: remove ## |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:28:43 +0100, Shepİ wrote:
snip "Out-Of-Memory" calls in windows although can be RAM are more usually not enough disk space to allow the Virtual Memory to run or programs running the background that are badly installed/badly written/out-of-date or have compatibility problems with windows or another program running. 1st trim your start up group, Hmmm....I am having problems with Win98 regonizing that it has a 500Mb swap file on a disk partition. Explorer can see it and all it's 500Mb used and un-used. BUT under one of the "Systems" windows from the Control Panel it says that my swap file = 0Mb??? Darth Joules |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:55:59 GMT, Knowing that it was a Hollywood
invention that lemmings jump off cliffs le (Darth Joules) wrote : On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:28:43 +0100, Shepİ wrote: snip "Out-Of-Memory" calls in windows although can be RAM are more usually not enough disk space to allow the Virtual Memory to run or programs running the background that are badly installed/badly written/out-of-date or have compatibility problems with windows or another program running. 1st trim your start up group, Hmmm....I am having problems with Win98 regonizing that it has a 500Mb swap file on a disk partition. Explorer can see it and all it's 500Mb used and un-used. BUT under one of the "Systems" windows from the Control Panel it says that my swap file = 0Mb??? Darth Joules http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/easy.html HTH -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html It's a G not a J in gmx for email Free songs download, http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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