Which one best for EASports games?!: GeForce 4 Ti 4600 or ATI Sapphire 9600 Pro/9800?!

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:04:49 GMT
"Pug Fugley" wrote:


"J.Clarke" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:40:02 GMT
"Pug Fugley" wrote:


"Strontium" wrote in message
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Oh, and let's not forget the fact that depending on which
console you
have,
you are limited in what games you can play. I would have to own
every console, out there, to play what I wanted. Yeah, real
budget-friendly! NOT. I can get by for at least a year and a
half with one video card.

Actually by limiting yourself to only PC, YOU have the worst
selection of games there is. Talk about limited.

Plus with my Xbox I can play games in full Dolby Digital 5.1 on a
65" HDTV while lounging on the couch.

Uh, with my PC I can play games on an 8 foot TV while lounging on my
couch. When I finally get the room set up the way I want it it will
become a 12 foot TV.

Well you're part of the 2% of people who has a dedicated gaming
computer in their living room.

Nope, home theater machine.

I guess you've got plenty of home
theater juice to drown out the 'vacuum cleaner' noise!

If you can't figure out how to build a quiet machine that's your
problem. Mine's quieter than the TV.

You're still missing:

Dolby 5.1 in all games

My hearing went to hell in the '60s. I do hear rear-channel effects in
all games, whether it's Dolby 5.1 or something else 5.1 is moot to me.

Good multiplayer

Enjoy. Multiplayer computer games leave me cold.

And I'll bet it's fun balancing a keyboard, mouse, and game controller
while you're sitting on the couch.

Why would I want to do that?

I'll bet it's also fun dealing
trying to read a computer monitor until the game gets going becuase PC
to TV text is unreadable!

Nope. There is only one display connected to the machine, it's 8 feet
diagonal, and text is razor sharp. But I guess you've never seen a
_real_ HDTV.

By the way, lounging in an Eames chair is a lot more comfortable than
the couch.

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"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Well, since you want to drag this out....

Firstly, insulting someone by saying "I'm smarter, than you" is hardly
past
the 5th grade level of playground tactics.

Seemed to have shut you up. That's all that really matters, and many members
of this group have thanked me for it.



Secondly, if your'e half as intelligent as you seem to think...you would
not
have problems running PeeCee games.

I never said I had problems running PC games. I just disagreed with the
statement you made that read something like 'only an idiot would play a game
on a game console'.



Maybe consoles are the answer for
people that can't build a solid box. If you have problems with PeeCee
games, and put the blame on the creators of the games, your original
assertion that you are smart might be construed oppositely.

Well YOU seem to have problems with console games. Plug it in, turn it on.
That's all you do with a console and you can't even manage to do THAT.





Now, I'm done with you ****-for-brains. Next plonk is permanent (hint:
your
nymshifting will not work, again).

Nym-shifting troll....typical behavior.

Yes you are a typical troll, trollboy. Get back under your bridge.


You have now been verbally slain. I do not expect a response from you, as
you have been defeated. Further replies will just prove your trolling
nature, to which you will be verbally slain yet again. No replies will
simply admit your defeat while you have a smidgen of dignity intact.

The choice is yours.

-
J.Clarke stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:17:03 -0500
"Strontium" wrote:

Oh, and let's not forget the fact that depending on which console you
have, you are limited in what games you can play.

The same is true of a PC.

I would have to
own every console, out there, to play what I wanted.

I see. You are content to restrict yourself only to those titles that
are available for the PC but are not content to restrict yourselves to
those titles that are available on any other game console.

Yeah, real
budget-friendly! NOT. I can get by for at least a year and a half
with one video card.-

The thing that you don't seem to grasp is that the PC is from that
viewpoint just another kind of game console, and the most expensive of
them all by a huge margin.

The thing that I have not made known, to you (and others), is that gaming
serves two purposes for me. 1. Leisure enjoment/astonishment at graphics
advancements. 2. It's a very good way for me to benchmark/test my builds.
I, never, have problems with my boxes. Then, again, I test them to the
limits in various ways. Gaming is but one. That said, enjoy your
XBox/PS2/GameCube....

I'm out of this flamewar.



Pug Fugley stood up at show-n-tell, in
t, and said:

"Strontium" wrote in message
...
**** consoles. They keep releasing new ones, every year. What a
waste of cash.

How ironic

New consoles come out every 5 years or so for $199.

Video cards come out every 3 months or so for $300. Talk about a
waste of cash!

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit




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--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit

Just veiwing the posts, and I find this one quite funny.
You sound as immature as the person you are responding too.
Your ending is of someone that would possibly be in elementary school....



"Pug Fugley2" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Well, since you want to drag this out....

Firstly, insulting someone by saying "I'm smarter, than you" is hardly
past
the 5th grade level of playground tactics.

Seemed to have shut you up. That's all that really matters, and many
members
of this group have thanked me for it.



Secondly, if your'e half as intelligent as you seem to think...you would
not
have problems running PeeCee games.

I never said I had problems running PC games. I just disagreed with the
statement you made that read something like 'only an idiot would play a
game
on a game console'.



Maybe consoles are the answer for
people that can't build a solid box. If you have problems with PeeCee
games, and put the blame on the creators of the games, your original
assertion that you are smart might be construed oppositely.

Well YOU seem to have problems with console games. Plug it in, turn it on.
That's all you do with a console and you can't even manage to do THAT.





Now, I'm done with you ****-for-brains. Next plonk is permanent (hint:
your
nymshifting will not work, again).

Nym-shifting troll....typical behavior.

Yes you are a typical troll, trollboy. Get back under your bridge.


You have now been verbally slain. I do not expect a response from you, as
you have been defeated. Further replies will just prove your trolling
nature, to which you will be verbally slain yet again. No replies will
simply admit your defeat while you have a smidgen of dignity intact.

The choice is yours.

-
Valentine's stood up at show-n-tell, in ,
and said:

Just veiwing the posts, and I find this one quite funny.
You sound as immature as the person you are responding too.
Your ending is of someone that would possibly be in elementary
school....



"Pug Fugley2" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Well, since you want to drag this out....

Firstly, insulting someone by saying "I'm smarter, than you" is
hardly past the 5th grade level of playground tactics.

Seemed to have shut you up. That's all that really matters, and many
members of this group have thanked me for it.

Shut `who' up, asswipe? I think many members of either of this crossposted
thread's groups would bitchslap you, for being such a dillweed/knowitall...




Secondly, if your'e half as intelligent as you seem to think...you
would not have problems running PeeCee games.

I never said I had problems running PC games. I just disagreed with
the statement you made that read something like 'only an idiot would
play a game on a game console'.

I, never, made such a statement. If you interpreted that, that's YOUR
problem, not mine.




Maybe consoles are the answer for
people that can't build a solid box. If you have problems with
PeeCee games, and put the blame on the creators of the games, your
original assertion that you are smart might be construed oppositely.

Well YOU seem to have problems with console games. Plug it in, turn
it on. That's all you do with a console and you can't even manage to
do THAT.

Who said that I have a problem with consoles? I just choose not to shell
out $1000+ for every console out there, to play every game. SquareSoft
started this crap, with Nintendo, years ago. That was when I decided I was
not going to play the "We're switching platforms...those of you that bought
this console have to buy another console to play FFx" game. It's big
business, and it's crap, in my book. **** them. They want money, bad
enough to tell us what we can and cannot use..**** 'em. They are in cahoots
with the console mfg's. If you can't see that......bleh. It's pretty
self-explanatory.






Now, I'm done with you ****-for-brains. Next plonk is permanent
(hint: your nymshifting will not work, again).

Nym-shifting troll....typical behavior.

Yes you are a typical troll, trollboy. Get back under your bridge.


You have now been verbally slain. I do not expect a response from
you, as you have been defeated. Further replies will just prove your
trolling nature, to which you will be verbally slain yet again. No
replies will simply admit your defeat while you have a smidgen of
dignity intact.

Can I have some or your crack? It seems to be pretty good ****. You speak,
just like a typical troll. 'slain'. 'defeated'. BLAH BLAH BLAH.



The choice is yours.

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit

PS - You are not contributing, constructively, to this flamewar Valentine's
FOAD.

-
Valentine's stood up at show-n-tell, in ,
and said:

Just veiwing the posts, and I find this one quite funny.
You sound as immature as the person you are responding too.
Your ending is of someone that would possibly be in elementary
school....



"Pug Fugley2" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Strontium" wrote in message
news
Well, since you want to drag this out....

Firstly, insulting someone by saying "I'm smarter, than you" is
hardly past the 5th grade level of playground tactics.

Seemed to have shut you up. That's all that really matters, and many
members of this group have thanked me for it.



Secondly, if your'e half as intelligent as you seem to think...you
would not have problems running PeeCee games.

I never said I had problems running PC games. I just disagreed with
the statement you made that read something like 'only an idiot would
play a game on a game console'.



Maybe consoles are the answer for
people that can't build a solid box. If you have problems with
PeeCee games, and put the blame on the creators of the games, your
original assertion that you are smart might be construed oppositely.

Well YOU seem to have problems with console games. Plug it in, turn
it on. That's all you do with a console and you can't even manage to
do THAT.





Now, I'm done with you ****-for-brains. Next plonk is permanent
(hint: your nymshifting will not work, again).

Nym-shifting troll....typical behavior.

Yes you are a typical troll, trollboy. Get back under your bridge.


You have now been verbally slain. I do not expect a response from
you, as you have been defeated. Further replies will just prove your
trolling nature, to which you will be verbally slain yet again. No
replies will simply admit your defeat while you have a smidgen of
dignity intact.

The choice is yours.

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit

"Strontium" wrote in message
...

Who said that I have a problem with consoles? I just choose not to shell
out $1000+ for every console out there, to play every game. SquareSoft
started this crap, with Nintendo, years ago. That was when I decided I
was
not going to play the "We're switching platforms...those of you that
bought
this console have to buy another console to play FFx" game. It's big
business, and it's crap, in my book. **** them. They want money, bad
enough to tell us what we can and cannot use..**** 'em. They are in
cahoots
with the console mfg's. If you can't see that......bleh. It's pretty
self-explanatory.


Uhhh..yeah. You act as if new computers and video cards don't come out every
single WEEK.

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:45:24 +0000, "J.Clarke"
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:43:42 -0500
"Strontium" wrote:

**** consoles. They keep releasing new ones, every year. What a
waste of cash.

**** video boards. They keep releasing new ones, every six months.
What a waste of cash.

and a good one cost twice as much as a console.

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J.Clarke stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:26:10 -0500
"Strontium" wrote:

lotsa snippage
The thing that I have not made known, to you (and others), is that
gaming serves two purposes for me. 1. Leisure enjoment/astonishment
at graphics advancements. 2. It's a very good way for me to
benchmark/test my builds. I, never, have problems with my boxes.
Then, again, I test them to the limits in various ways. Gaming is
but one. That said, enjoy your XBox/PS2/GameCube....

Well, that's fine, but in that case why do you see range of titles as
an issue?

As stated, before, SquareSoft (the makers of Final Fantasy, once my favorite
series) decided to pull out of Nintendo. In essence, forcing me or anyone
else that loved those games to buy a playstation. I did not comply, and
will not buy a console for one game. If they don't want to release PC
versions, of games (for whatever reasons...greed, cahoots with console
makers, etc...) That's fine, with me. I've got enough titles, already.
And, they keep coming out with good ones. BTW, the PC version of Vice City
has an advantage over the PS2 version: You can drop mp3 files into a folder
and have a customized radio station. Not that you would be into that game,
at your age hehehe.

Coincidentally, FFXI is being released this year as a crossplatform game
Apparently, it's gonna be an MMORP. Think I'll check that one out!


snip, snip, snip

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 11:40:52 -0500
"Strontium" wrote:

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J.Clarke stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:26:10 -0500
"Strontium" wrote:

lotsa snippage
The thing that I have not made known, to you (and others), is that
gaming serves two purposes for me. 1. Leisure
enjoment/astonishment at graphics advancements. 2. It's a very good
way for me to benchmark/test my builds. I, never, have problems with
my boxes. Then, again, I test them to the limits in various ways.
Gaming is but one. That said, enjoy your XBox/PS2/GameCube....

Well, that's fine, but in that case why do you see range of titles
as an issue?

As stated, before, SquareSoft (the makers of Final Fantasy, once my
favorite series) decided to pull out of Nintendo. In essence, forcing
me or anyone else that loved those games to buy a playstation. I did
not comply, and will not buy a console for one game. If they don't
want to release PC versions, of games (for whatever reasons...greed,
cahoots with console makers, etc...) That's fine, with me. I've got
enough titles, already. And, they keep coming out with good ones.
BTW, the PC version of Vice City has an advantage over the PS2
version: You can drop mp3 files into a folder and have a customized
radio station. Not that you would be into that game, at your age
hehehe.

I see. So Final Fantasy is not available for the Nintendo or the PC and
so that is a reason to avoid the PlagueStation? I find that amusing. I
believe that the expression is "cutting off your nose to spite your
face".

Coincidentally, FFXI is being released this year as a crossplatform
game Apparently, it's gonna be an MMORP. Think I'll check that one
out!


snip, snip, snip

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit




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