New Theory: AMD's CPU Throttling damaged the power supply.

Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

Skybuck Flying wrote:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

snip drivel
Bye,
Skybuck.

What IS it with you? The whole world has sunshine and it rains only on
you? MY theory on your 'luck' with computers is your own ineptitude.
You're doing something YOU think isn't wrong but it is.

Bye,
G²

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:28:49 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
wrote:

Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.



How much has this latest fiasco cost you?

John

John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:28:49 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
wrote:

Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.



How much has this latest fiasco cost you?


The owner of his local computer parts outlet must be flush with money by
now :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

On Aug 2, 10:28*am, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:
I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

The word is CONJECTURE, in order to qualify as a theory, there has to
be
massive substantiating evidence. With a little evidence you have only
arrived
at Hypothesis. And you don't even have this, yet.

Skybuck Flying wrote:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.


Hydraulic shock on the power supply, I think you might be right. Is
the power supply dripping water?

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
b.home.nl...
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.


Being gentle, there is a huge hole in your theory. That hole is hard
drives. They are constantly spinning up and spinning down. If a power
supply could be damaged the way you think they can, any system with a hard
drive would experience such failures.

But then you could have something, as power supply failures are quite
common. Note I'm only half joking there. -Dave

I disagree with you...

Harddisks shutdown for a long time because of inactivity... or they simply
keep on spinning for a long time...

And when they do spin up, they do so slowly... not abruptly.

Harddisks were designed by IBM.

We all know what happens when you try to take on IBM.

You go down burning in flames ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
.home.nl...
I disagree with you...

Harddisks shutdown for a long time because of inactivity... or they simply
keep on spinning for a long time...

And when they do spin up, they do so slowly... not abruptly.

Harddisks were designed by IBM.

We all know what happens when you try to take on IBM.

You go down burning in flames ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

In your other posting you said you slowed down the fan. Duh..

Tam

On Aug 2, 8:28*am, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2..0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
* Skybuck.

The clock rate is throttled, not the supply voltage.