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"DRS" wrote in message ... McGrandpa wrote: "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi Troops, After much deliberation I finally decided to deep six my venerable 9800Pro/128 and replace it with a 6800GS/AGP. [...] I think you'd enjoy a 6800GT 256 a lot more, if you can find one. What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. About availability; not all stores are lacking in 6800GT's: NewEgg (original URL was WAAAY too long) http://tinyurl.com/z5y9v It's a given the GS is less expensive. And also, the 7800GS is right there in the price range with the 6800GT's that are left. Well hell, I've just talked myself right away from all the 6800's!!! My new 2nd 7800GTX will be here tomorrow anway McG. |
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Thanks for the helpful advice troops ;-) I'll mull everything over but, as
of now, I'm still torn between eVGA, XFX, and BFG. I'm leaning toward XFX because it has dual DVI+ the capability to power one LCD with dual DVI input for higher resolutions. Of course your monitor must have dual DVI inputs. A word of advice - Wait until the 3rd week in March before making *any* vid card purchase. That's when the new stuff will be released and the old prices will drop considerably. It's going to be hard 'cause I'm ready now "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi Troops, After much deliberation I finally decided to deep six my venerable 9800Pro/128 and replace it with a 6800GS/AGP. I'm trying to decide between the eVGA and the XFX cards. Both are clocked and have 350MHz cores and 1000MHz memory. The only difference is that the XFX has dual DVI while the eVGA has 1-DVI and 1-VGA. I'm favoring the XFX because I may add another LCD display eventually. Prices: NewEgg ZipZoomFly (All prices include S/H) eVGA 213.69 194.99 (incl $20 mail in rebate) XFX 223.69 219.99 While I like to shop at NewEgg it seem that ZZF has the best prices. There is a BFG 6800GS, $229 @ NewEgg (350 core, 1050 clock) but it's OOS. The reason I chose the 6800GS is that I have an ABIT IC7-Max3 MB (AGP) and I want the greatest increase in speed over the 9800Pro without breaking the bank. I plan on replacing the MB with PCIe, DDR3 memory, and PCIe Vid card after Christmas. I'm looking for comments/opinions eVGA, XFX, and BFG. Which is most likely to allow increasing the pipes from 12 to 16? Any and all comments are welcome ;-) Ed F. |
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Yes, you need to create an account (name and address only) for them to know
your address and calculate shipping and taxes. You will get to see the entire order breakdown in invoice format before having to enter any payment information. The account is also used for access to the NCIX forums. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "John Doe" wrote in message ... Are you sure? After I put an item in my cart, I see this. "Shipping and final tax calculation will be calculated at checkout" Then I click on "customer checkout" and I asked to sign in. |
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Hi McG,
6800 GS = $200, 7800 GTX = $400+ Even if you're PCIe now, the 6800 GS is a far better PP ay $170.. Do you have anything that the 6800 GS won't run? If you're looking for bragging rights you've got it goin'! Deuce 7800 SLI Yahoooey!! I've never been accused of being frugal but I'm far wiser now than when I paid $5000 for an IBM MicroChannel system :-)) "McGrandpa" wrote in message ... "DRS" wrote in message ... McGrandpa wrote: "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi Troops, After much deliberation I finally decided to deep six my venerable 9800Pro/128 and replace it with a 6800GS/AGP. [...] I think you'd enjoy a 6800GT 256 a lot more, if you can find one. What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. About availability; not all stores are lacking in 6800GT's: NewEgg (original URL was WAAAY too long) http://tinyurl.com/z5y9v It's a given the GS is less expensive. And also, the 7800GS is right there in the price range with the 6800GT's that are left. Well hell, I've just talked myself right away from all the 6800's!!! My new 2nd 7800GTX will be here tomorrow anway McG. |
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That's true for the PCIe 6800GS. The AGP 6800GS uses a different core and
the reference clock speeds are much slower. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "DRS" wrote in message ... What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. |
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Of course you're correct. *BUT* the 6800GS will OC to 6800GT speeds. Even
if you are unlucky enough to get one that won't it will still run any game out there acceptably fast unless you're capable of competing against FataIlty ;-) "First of One" wrote in message ... That's true for the PCIe 6800GS. The AGP 6800GS uses a different core and the reference clock speeds are much slower. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "DRS" wrote in message ... What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. |
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"Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi McG, 6800 GS = $200, 7800 GTX = $400+ Even if you're PCIe now, the 6800 GS is a far better PP ay $170.. Do you have anything that the 6800 GS won't run? If you're looking for bragging rights you've got it goin'! Deuce 7800 SLI Yahoooey!! I've never been accused of being frugal but I'm far wiser now than when I paid $5000 for an IBM MicroChannel system :-)) So how long did your Micro Channel system stay in use? Well, those 'awhile back dollars' were harder earned. I have always been fairly frugal, with 4 kids and all that goes with em. Turning point in life, kids are all out with kids of their own and I'm now in my 50's. I kinda think it's my turn now $900 for the pair of eVGA 7800GTX 256 ACS3 cards. Back in August the X2 4800+ was $985. I could have waited on that bit, but didn't as I figured I might end up talking myself out of it SO for just a mobo, 2 vid cards and a cpu I've dropped 2 grand. And, no, never had the GS's, just a 6800GT AGP. Then, stage II of the planned upgrade. pci-e sli mobo and pair of 7800GTX512's. The GTX512's never materialized, and I've had to juggle stuff around to get a pair of matched GTX 256 cards. I'm not desperate, nuts or ignorant. This is just what I want to do. I likely will go back to being frugal after this I'm thinking this rig will last a year or two! McG. "McGrandpa" wrote in message ... "DRS" wrote in message ... McGrandpa wrote: "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi Troops, After much deliberation I finally decided to deep six my venerable 9800Pro/128 and replace it with a 6800GS/AGP. [...] I think you'd enjoy a 6800GT 256 a lot more, if you can find one. What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. About availability; not all stores are lacking in 6800GT's: NewEgg (original URL was WAAAY too long) http://tinyurl.com/z5y9v It's a given the GS is less expensive. And also, the 7800GS is right there in the price range with the 6800GT's that are left. Well hell, I've just talked myself right away from all the 6800's!!! My new 2nd 7800GTX will be here tomorrow anway McG. |
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You're my hero McG - Reminds me of me when I was your age youngster.;-) I'm
76 and I've become a wee bit more patient. *BUT* I'm going to do a major upgrade before I load Vista. New PCIe MB, AMD's best CPU (unless Intel pulls a rabbit out), 2G DDR2 memory, New almost high end vid card s. New sound card (not really necessary but I'm still running a SB Live!). The rest of my stuff is OK. Lian Li full tower AL case, PC Power & Cooling 510W Deluxe PS. WD Raptor 74G + 2 WD 160G HDDs, 2 Plextor DVD/CD burners. I hate to trash my 1G of OCZ PC4000 memory - maybe I'll put it on eBay. BTW, anyone want to buy an ATI 9800PRO/128 with a Zalman 9700? CU cooler. "McGrandpa" wrote in message ... "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi McG, 6800 GS = $200, 7800 GTX = $400+ Even if you're PCIe now, the 6800 GS is a far better PP ay $170.. Do you have anything that the 6800 GS won't run? If you're looking for bragging rights you've got it goin'! Deuce 7800 SLI Yahoooey!! I've never been accused of being frugal but I'm far wiser now than when I paid $5000 for an IBM MicroChannel system :-)) So how long did your Micro Channel system stay in use? Well, those 'awhile back dollars' were harder earned. I have always been fairly frugal, with 4 kids and all that goes with em. Turning point in life, kids are all out with kids of their own and I'm now in my 50's. I kinda think it's my turn now $900 for the pair of eVGA 7800GTX 256 ACS3 cards. Back in August the X2 4800+ was $985. I could have waited on that bit, but didn't as I figured I might end up talking myself out of it SO for just a mobo, 2 vid cards and a cpu I've dropped 2 grand. And, no, never had the GS's, just a 6800GT AGP. Then, stage II of the planned upgrade. pci-e sli mobo and pair of 7800GTX512's. The GTX512's never materialized, and I've had to juggle stuff around to get a pair of matched GTX 256 cards. I'm not desperate, nuts or ignorant. This is just what I want to do. I likely will go back to being frugal after this I'm thinking this rig will last a year or two! McG. "McGrandpa" wrote in message ... "DRS" wrote in message ... McGrandpa wrote: "Ed Forsythe" wrote in message ... Hi Troops, After much deliberation I finally decided to deep six my venerable 9800Pro/128 and replace it with a 6800GS/AGP. [...] I think you'd enjoy a 6800GT 256 a lot more, if you can find one. What on earth makes you say that? The 6800GS is the replacement for the 6800GT. It's cheaper, cooler and its performance varies from a bee's dick under the GT to up to 40% faster depending on the benchmark. And those 6800GS cards are 256Mb. About availability; not all stores are lacking in 6800GT's: NewEgg (original URL was WAAAY too long) http://tinyurl.com/z5y9v It's a given the GS is less expensive. And also, the 7800GS is right there in the price range with the 6800GT's that are left. Well hell, I've just talked myself right away from all the 6800's!!! My new 2nd 7800GTX will be here tomorrow anway McG. |
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McGrandpa wrote:
[...] I've not had a GS of course, but the GT. The GT I had is clocked core 350 ram 500(1000) and has 16 ROP's. The GS has the same ram characteristics, 425 core clock and 12 ROP's. The only advantage it enjoys I can see is the faster core clock. Faster GPU clock and more overclocking headroom. You're right though, the GS replaced the GT. It also happens to be the only one of the two currently on the shelves. Try finding a 6800GT AGP or PCI-e now. Nvidia have stated that they're clearing out the 6800 line and the GS will be the only 6800 model available. Running Doom3 in Ultra Quality at 1280x1024 will show what to both cards, if in say a 4800+ with 2 gigs ram? The GS will slow down, the GT will not, is what I think. Anandtech's benchmarks show there's bugger all in it between the stock GS and the GT: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2593&p=3 However, the retail overclocked GS is noticeably faster (and is still cheaper than a stock GT): http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2683&p=5 http://www.trustedreviews.com/articl...d=15&page=4767 |
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"DRS" wrote in message ... McGrandpa wrote: [...] I've not had a GS of course, but the GT. The GT I had is clocked core 350 ram 500(1000) and has 16 ROP's. The GS has the same ram characteristics, 425 core clock and 12 ROP's. The only advantage it enjoys I can see is the faster core clock. Faster GPU clock and more overclocking headroom. You're right though, the GS replaced the GT. It also happens to be the only one of the two currently on the shelves. Try finding a 6800GT AGP or PCI-e now. Nvidia have stated that they're clearing out the 6800 line and the GS will be the only 6800 model available. Running Doom3 in Ultra Quality at 1280x1024 will show what to both cards, if in say a 4800+ with 2 gigs ram? The GS will slow down, the GT will not, is what I think. Anandtech's benchmarks show there's bugger all in it between the stock GS and the GT: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2593&p=3 However, the retail overclocked GS is noticeably faster (and is still cheaper than a stock GT): http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2683&p=5 http://www.trustedreviews.com/articl...d=15&page=4767 ok, going by the tests shown at these links, where does anyone get "noticeably faster"? Moot point though. There aren't any more 'GT's being produced. And I've gone to 7800GTX's now. McG. |
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