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Crytek: Next-Gen Console Hardware Locked Down Next Year, Out In 2012-2013, Epic Agrees
"YKhan" wrote in message ... On Oct 7, 5:22 pm, "Tom" wrote: "Yousuf Khan" wrote in message Anyways, it's much more impressive that the single GPU HD5870 beat out the dual-GPU GTX295 or HD4870X2 in five or six tests respectively. You expect the dual-GPUs to usually beat out single GPUs But you really need to look at those benchmark tests compared to what stress and game(s) they were under, that's what I noticed. I found it astounding that a few times the 285 and 280 beat the 5870. I am psyched about the 5870 as it seems for the money, Nvidia can put out something already comparatively more powerful as how the 295 was to the 4870x2, but the newer ATI comes closer to the challenge and still can be much cheaper. Can you point out where the 285 beat the 5870? I've seen very few examples. In the first article, TechSpot, they ran just single cards, and the only things beating the 5870 with any consistency were the two dual-GPU solutions, 4870X2 or 295. In the Anandtech article, they ran mixes of single and dual cards, and again the only time anything beat the 5870 were either single-card/dual-GPU or dual-card/single-GPU. http://www.techspot.com/review/198-a...iew/page9.html Well, it may be all academic pretty soon. According to this article, Nvidia's on the verge of cancelling its GTX260, 275, and 285, with the likelihood that the 295 will be gone pretty soon too. If this is true and it seems credible enough, Nvidia just may be on the ropes. The fact that ATI cards are (and have been) hitting GDDR5 and Nividia hasn't ever mentioned their cards supporting this, so I wonder if they are going to that rating on their next cards. I don't think, as ATI comes out with these cards that are more than adequate to run even Crysis, that Nvidia can keep pumping out these high end cards at these price levels and expect people to pay for them while not offering anything more that ATI cards can handle. I honestly do not see, in the near future, games requiring near anything more than the need of what the 5870x2 will offer. I don't think it's got anything to do with technology like GDDR5 vs. GDDR4 per se, it's more to do with cost to build. The low- and mid- price Nvidia cards cost more to build than they are getting back for them. This likely has a lot to do with Nvidia's extremely large die sizes. ATI has been concentrating on lowering costs for itself, and hence for the customers. The way to lower costs is to reduce the size of the GPU die. I didn't say anything about the cost of GDDR5, only that ATI has (and has had) it and Nvidia never has. |
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Crytek: Next-Gen Console Hardware Locked Down Next Year, OutIn 2012-2013, Epic Agrees
Tom wrote:
"YKhan" wrote in message Can you point out where the 285 beat the 5870? I've seen very few examples. In the first article, TechSpot, they ran just single cards, and the only things beating the 5870 with any consistency were the two dual-GPU solutions, 4870X2 or 295. In the Anandtech article, they ran mixes of single and dual cards, and again the only time anything beat the 5870 were either single-card/dual-GPU or dual-card/single-GPU. http://www.techspot.com/review/198-a...iew/page9.html Yeah, those were the only examples I saw of GTX285 beating HD5870 at anything at all, i.e. Supreme Commander. And it didn't beat it by much, like 1 or 2 frames. Supreme Commander is known as a CPU hog rather than a GPU hog, that's why you don't see much difference between any of the single-GPU cards, it's the processor that's bottlenecked. Yousuf Khan |
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