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Second processor
Hello everyone !!
I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? Thanks for your answers, Federico |
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I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a
long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. I would think it should work, but all I would suggest is try it.. at worst the machine won't boot with 2 cpu's in it.. It shouldn't matter which chip goes into which socket.. and for jumper settings I would first find the model and manufacturer of the board, and google it.. (that's how I find details for my old hardware) On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? Yes, I got my board with a 33Mhz SX originally, and replaced it with a 66Mhz DX (setting appropriate jumpers) Regards, Chris |
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Federico:
I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: It was normal for there to be two sockets but one is for a processor and the 2nd is for a math coprocessor. The DX processors had a math coprocessor on the chip but the SX processors required a seperate math coprocessor. Remove the original processor if you can (they didn't all come with Ziff sockets back then) and replace it with the 66Mhz. You can upgrade the original processor with any processor that is a multiple of the original (i.e. 66, 100, 133). -- Mac Cool |
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Federico wrote:
I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? The chances are about NIL that that second socket is for a processor. It may be for a floating point math co-processor, because some 486s came without those instructions. On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? Now this might be feasible. It would give you the FP system also. But no guarantees. Why not just use the 486/66 on its original motherboard? -- Chuck F ) ) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. http://cbfalconer.home.att.net USE worldnet address! |
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Federico wrote:
Hello everyone !! I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? As another poster has mentioned that socket is probably for an i487SX this is a math coprocessor to partner with the 486SX you already have. Do not under any circumstances plug another 486 into the 487 socket ! You may damage either the 486, your system or both. The system board for the 486/33U and the 486/66U is the same so if you can determine the correct jumper settings then you should be able to use your 66Mhz part in this machine. |
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"Wayne Stallwood" wrote in message ... Federico wrote: Hello everyone !! I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? As another poster has mentioned that socket is probably for an i487SX this is a math coprocessor to partner with the 486SX you already have. Do not under any circumstances plug another 486 into the 487 socket ! You may damage either the 486, your system or both. The system board for the 486/33U and the 486/66U is the same so if you can determine the correct jumper settings then you should be able to use your 66Mhz part in this machine. Not often we see such machines around anymore. Charish the memories of 128k of ram! |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:52:16 +0200, "Federico"
wrote: Hello everyone !! I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? Thanks for your answers, Federico Keep in mind that on those some of those old 486 machines, a second processor socket is often meant to be used as an upgrade path. In many cases, the first socket contained a 486SX (version without the math coprocessor), and in that second socket, you were supposed to pop in a 487. The 486 was marketed as a math coprocessor for a 486, but in actuality, it was a full 486DX with different pin out than the normal one. On a few boards, rather than screwing around with the hard to find 487 chip, they just put in socket for a regular 486DX. Popping in that second chip disabled the old one, leaving the one in the second socket to take over. The one in the original socket became just dead weight. If you're thinking of going multiprocessing, you might be disappointed. While it's very possible that I'm wrong, I don't think multiprocessing came on scene for Intel procs until the Pentium came along -- at least not in any mass produced sort of way. --------------------------------------------- MCheu |
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You must use IDENTICAL processors for multi-processing. However, you can
use JUST the 66 MHz CPU by itself. -- DaveW "Federico" wrote in message ... Hello everyone !! I have an old machine, an HP Vectra 486/33U, which used to be a server (a long time ago ). Inside there a two processor sockets: the first one is occupied by an intel 486 processor running at 33 Mhz, i.e. the original processor, and the other one is empty. I recently found an intel 486 DX processor running at 66 Mhz, on a computer which was about to be thrown away. My question is can I use this processor on the computer: can I use it as a second processor or do they have to be similar. If it's possible, which one do I have to put on the main socket and by chance, do you know by chance the jumper setting ? On the contrary, if this is impossible, can I still replace the 33Mhz proc by the 66 Mhz one ??? Thanks for your answers, Federico |
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