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Old September 18th 03, 11:09 AM
Aloke Prasad
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Default Who's drivers are more stable?

I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches in
displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?

I was burned by poor drivers from ATI 3-4 years back, and bought the Riva
TNT back then. I have generally liked the Detonator drivers. However, I'm
seriously behind times (4 years is an eternity!!).

I'd like to know the net-opinion on the driver quality of ATI and Nvidia in
their current state of the art.

Thanks.
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Old September 18th 03, 02:55 PM
Skid
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"Aloke Prasad" wrote in message
...
I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches

in
displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?

I was burned by poor drivers from ATI 3-4 years back, and bought the Riva
TNT back then. I have generally liked the Detonator drivers. However,

I'm
seriously behind times (4 years is an eternity!!).

I'd like to know the net-opinion on the driver quality of ATI and Nvidia

in
their current state of the art.


ATI's drivers have really matured. They are at least the equal of Nvidia at
this point. I can't promise you an SB Live won't screw them up, but Creative
software can bring almost any system to its knees under the right -- or
wrong -- circumstances.


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Old September 18th 03, 05:37 PM
Ben Pope
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Aloke Prasad wrote:
I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches
in displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?

I was burned by poor drivers from ATI 3-4 years back, and bought the Riva
TNT back then. I have generally liked the Detonator drivers. However,
I'm seriously behind times (4 years is an eternity!!).

I'd like to know the net-opinion on the driver quality of ATI and Nvidia
in their current state of the art.


No stability or image quality problems with Cat3.6 / 3.7 here.

nVidia's Detonators seem to "adjusting" the image as they progress (i.e.,
the image displayed in 4x series is different to that in 5x series -
although the 5x's are currently beta). Additionally the benchmark scores
seem to be coming along leaps and bounds - the 5900 Ultra score has doubled
(in DX9/pixel shader - heavy benchmarks) over the last two revisions. Make
of that what you will.

Ben
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Old September 18th 03, 05:50 PM
Lenny
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I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)
My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups


There are no guarantees about anything NOT crashing in the PC business. I
bet you can find a USB mouse that crashes some computers but not others, to
have something as complex as a videocard not crash SOME boxes or fail on
SOME games is more or less impossible. There is no bug-free software or
hardware on this level, there's problems with everything in some way or
another.

Choose the card that fits your demands and your wallet best, and hope for
the best. If it doesn't work, wait for a new driver, or do the refund thing.
On a hardware level, ATi has the edge at the moment and their drivers at
least aren't BAD (heh) and are updated frequently. That said however, nobody
can guarantee either manufacturer's card will work in your system.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?


Any replies pointing in either direction will be based on nothing but
opinion.


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Old September 18th 03, 05:53 PM
Tim
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doom3 meduim quality 1024 768

9600pro = 35fps
5600ultra = 48fps


9600pro wpuld be geting about lower than 30 frames..UNPLAYABLE

5600 would be geting 40 frames playable

now if u like half2 which doesn't even run at playable frames rates.
it gets me why a gaming company would code a game that is unplayable to most
gamers. Mabe they can code? who knows, mabe they like $$$ from ATI



Mabe they are tricking u to buy a Radeon





Aloke Prasad wrote:

I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches in
displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?

I was burned by poor drivers from ATI 3-4 years back, and bought the Riva
TNT back then. I have generally liked the Detonator drivers. However, I'm
seriously behind times (4 years is an eternity!!).

I'd like to know the net-opinion on the driver quality of ATI and Nvidia in
their current state of the art.

Thanks.
--

Aloke
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Old September 18th 03, 06:39 PM
Bratboy
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"Skid" wrote in message
t...

Creative software can bring almost any system to its knees under the

right -- or
wrong -- circumstances.



LOL so true. Have to be honest tho my A2 isnt so bad only pain is how CL is
makeing you keep every darn patch since for each upgrade you have to have
the origonal ver and all prev patches applied to use...cant just install new
patch over a origonal install. And lets not foget all the BS surounding
"Liveware" and how it would keep your card updated with new n improved
features hehe.


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Old September 18th 03, 06:44 PM
Bratboy
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"I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches in
displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?"

Well to be honest having just switched from Nvidia myself Ive had no real
problems with either now. The ATI's run quite nice and have not seen a BSOD
yet from em. Then again never really saw that with nvidias either. I do
think that when I had a fx5600 here to compare with my 9800 that the image
was better with ATI's this time, which is why I kept it and gave roomy the
5600.

Just Jess


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Old September 18th 03, 06:54 PM
Ben Pope
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Tim wrote:
doom3 meduim quality 1024 768

9600pro = 35fps
5600ultra = 48fps


Interesting scores... where do you get them from and how likely do you think
they will be representative of the released game?

9600pro wpuld be geting about lower than 30 frames..UNPLAYABLE

5600 would be geting 40 frames playable


Only a 20% drop from average? Hmm.

now if u like half2 which doesn't even run at playable frames rates.
it gets me why a gaming company would code a game that is unplayable to
most gamers. Mabe they can code? who knows, mabe they like $$$ from ATI


It's been said that the HL2 engine scales well for all sorts of cards. I
don't know where you get your information.

Mabe they are tricking u to buy a Radeon


Who? Valve? What about Carmacks comments on nVidia hardware? "struggles"
was the word I think he used. Maybe he's trying to trick you into buying an
ATI as well. Odd since they have a deal with nVidia.

Ben
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Old September 18th 03, 08:27 PM
Tim Miser
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In my opinion I'd say ATI drivers are better. Here is why:

ATI drivers work fine with new games including dx9 games while with nvidia
drivers you have to wait for nvidia to 'optimize' their driver to work with
each dx9 game individually if you want playable framerates.

ATI drivers will generally run your ATI hardware close to it's maximum speed
at the time the hardware is released. With nviida drivers you have to wait
about 6 months for those optimized drivers that will "increase your speed
30-40 percent in all games."

ATI drivers turn on the full image quality capabilities in games while
Nviida drivers turn down the image quality so that the benchmark scores will
be up to the ATI levels.


-Tim



"Aloke Prasad" wrote in message
...
I am choosing between ATI 9600 and GeForce FX 5900 (non-Pro and non-Ultra)

My topmost criteria is stability of the drivers, i.e., no lockups, no
BSOD's, no interference with other PCI devices like soundcards, glitches

in
displayed pictures etc.

Who has better drivers? ATI or Nvidia?

I was burned by poor drivers from ATI 3-4 years back, and bought the Riva
TNT back then. I have generally liked the Detonator drivers. However,

I'm
seriously behind times (4 years is an eternity!!).

I'd like to know the net-opinion on the driver quality of ATI and Nvidia

in
their current state of the art.

Thanks.
--

Aloke
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Old September 18th 03, 10:58 PM
Ben Pope
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Tim Miser wrote:
In my opinion I'd say ATI drivers are better. Here is why:

ATI drivers work fine with new games including dx9 games while with nvidia
drivers you have to wait for nvidia to 'optimize' their driver to work
with each dx9 game individually if you want playable framerates.

ATI drivers will generally run your ATI hardware close to it's maximum
speed at the time the hardware is released. With nviida drivers you have
to wait about 6 months for those optimized drivers that will "increase
your speed 30-40 percent in all games."

ATI drivers turn on the full image quality capabilities in games while
Nviida drivers turn down the image quality so that the benchmark scores
will be up to the ATI levels.


Controversial!

We'll see how much the truth hurts. I hope you have your flame retardant
jacket on Tim!

Ben
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