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Anthlon Processors and P4P800 Deluxe
Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this
moboard? I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3. What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS (Win XP)? |
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"Eric" wrote in message ... Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this moboard? I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3. What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS (Win XP)? I don't mean to be cruel, but if you did some more reading about the "Anthlon" (sic), you'd realize that (a) it's spelled "Athlon" and (b) it's not compatible with an Intel-socket motherboard. It requires a motherboard with a socket appropriate for the CPU, which in turn is dependent on which Athlon CPU you want to use -- the Athlon name has been applied to a number of different CPUs. |
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Cool thx -- sorry for the misspelling.
"Shawn Barnhart" wrote in message ... "Eric" wrote in message ... Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this moboard? I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3. What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS (Win XP)? I don't mean to be cruel, but if you did some more reading about the "Anthlon" (sic), you'd realize that (a) it's spelled "Athlon" and (b) it's not compatible with an Intel-socket motherboard. It requires a motherboard with a socket appropriate for the CPU, which in turn is dependent on which Athlon CPU you want to use -- the Athlon name has been applied to a number of different CPUs. |
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wrote: Cool thx -- sorry for the misspelling. The processors use all kinds of different sockets, enhancing the margins for the companies involved. Interchanging is a thing of the past. S478 Your P4 Pentium S775 Next gen P4 with LGA socket (aka socket T) - shipping now S462 AthlonXP 32 bit processor S754 Athlon64 single channel memory 64 bit processor S939,S940 Athlon64 dual channel memory 64 bit processor If you read the articles on Anandtech and Tomshardware, the difference between a $1000 and a $4000 computer built to play DOOM3, is the quality setting. Both computers can still play the game. Compare the differences in the pictures between the quality settings, and imagine how little of that you will be seeing while actually playing the game. ID software designed the game to work with a range of computers, because otherwise they wouldn't be selling very many copies, and Carmack would have to live on Kraft Dinner. The best way to estimate whether you need a new computer, is to play the game with your current computer. Adjust the quality for a playable frame rate. No computer gets really high frame rates, unless the quality is turned down. (Depending on your expectations, you may be so disappointed with the game design, that you will be glad you didn't spend money on an upgrade!) With your current processor, a better video card might be the right investment. But only if you were using something crappy like an FX5200 currently. If you own a 9800 or 5900 type card, just set the quality down a notch, and enjoy. HTH, Paul "Shawn Barnhart" wrote in message ... "Eric" wrote in message ... Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this moboard? I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3. What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS (Win XP)? I don't mean to be cruel, but if you did some more reading about the "Anthlon" (sic), you'd realize that (a) it's spelled "Athlon" and (b) it's not compatible with an Intel-socket motherboard. It requires a motherboard with a socket appropriate for the CPU, which in turn is dependent on which Athlon CPU you want to use -- the Athlon name has been applied to a number of different CPUs. |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... S939,S940 Athlon64 dual channel memory 64 bit processor What's the difference between socket 939 and 940? When looking to build a new system this summer, I toyed with an A64 system but they're kind of all over the map with their sockets for that line of CPUs. 940 appears to be only for the FX-53, while 939 only supports FX-53 939 CPUs and one A64 CPU, all the rest of the A64s being on 754 boards. I settled on P4-3.2 for some cost/performance considerations; the A64 would have been more appealing if you could buy an A64/3400 in 939 format and know that it was going to be the standard socket for the next 18 months or so, making a drop-in upgrade of a faster A64 a better bargain. |
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In article , "Shawn
Barnhart" wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... S939,S940 Athlon64 dual channel memory 64 bit processor What's the difference between socket 939 and 940? When looking to build a new system this summer, I toyed with an A64 system but they're kind of all over the map with their sockets for that line of CPUs. 940 appears to be only for the FX-53, while 939 only supports FX-53 939 CPUs and one A64 CPU, all the rest of the A64s being on 754 boards. I settled on P4-3.2 for some cost/performance considerations; the A64 would have been more appealing if you could buy an A64/3400 in 939 format and know that it was going to be the standard socket for the next 18 months or so, making a drop-in upgrade of a faster A64 a better bargain. S940 uses registered memory, and takes Opteron or a couple of FX processors (1MB cache) in S940 pinout. Sample motherboard = SK8N which can use 4 x 2GB registered DIMMs. FX53 (940) 1MB cache 2.4GHz $775 ---+--- Are these the same ??? Opterons starting at $158 | Opteron model 150 1MB cache 2.4GHz $638 ---+ S939 uses unbuffered memory, and takes Athlon64FX (1MB cache) or Athlon64 (512K cache) in S939 pinout. Sample motherboard = A8V which can use 4 x 1GB unbuffered DIMMs and gives maybe 3.5GB usable due to PCI/AGP address space overlap. FX53 (939) 1MB cache 2.4GHz $839 Athlon64 3800+ 512KB 2.4GHz $652 Athlon64 3500+ 512KB 2.2GHz $353 For comparison, with no particular care as to accuracy. The prices seem to fit a curve, more or less. P4 3.2C S478 512KB (Northwood) $292 P4 3.2E S478 1MB (Prescott) $275 P4 3.2 S775 1MB (Prescott) $288 (not passing savings to customer) P4 3.4C S478 512KB (Northwood) $416 P4 3.4 S775 1MB (Prescott) $422 P4 3.4EE S478 L2=512KB/L3=2MB $995 P4 3.6 S775 1MB (Prescott) ($637) (not shipping in volume ???) A64 S754 3400+ 512KB 2.4GHz $292 Newcastle A64 S754 3400+ 1MB cache 2.2GHz $305 Clawhammer A64 S754 3700+ 1MB cache 2.4GHz $535 With AMD, you can use S940 to span a range of processor prices from $158 to $775. Socket 939 starts pretty high up the ladder, in terms of price and performance level $353 to $839, leaving socket 754 to fill in the lower price and performance points. S775 should be cheaper to make than S478, due to no pins on package, and I guess Intel gets a bit more margin, while the customer pays more for the socket to house it. HTH, Paul |
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