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Old March 20th 06, 01:40 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default What motherboards are based on Intel 915 and Intel 945 chipsets

Which current motherboards are based on Intel 915 and Intel 945
chipsets?

I am not that familiar with Intel series boards - what do these ones
have over the the more recent 8xx series chipsets?

The board must have at least 5 PCI slots as I will be needing 4 of them
straight away for building a DVR system using bt878 based adapters.

The 915 and 945 are the boards recommended by the vendor of the
adapters, however I am looking for something moderately priced and I
am hoping that boards of this type are not too expensive.

I'd also like to know what type of CPU chips go with them. There seem
to be so many Intel CPU types and I find it all rather confusing.

Are there any stock Dell machines with enough slots which will fit the
bill? Even if they are server oriented that will be fine.

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Old March 21st 06, 06:54 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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On 20 Mar 2006 05:40:44 -0800, wrote:

Which current motherboards are based on Intel 915 and Intel 945
chipsets?


??? There are about 100 motherboards based on each chipset at the
moment. These are, by a fairly large margin, the two most common
chipsets in use today. if you go to just about any board
manufacturer's website you'll find an extensive list of each.

I am not that familiar with Intel series boards - what do these ones
have over the the more recent 8xx series chipsets?


The biggest difference between, for example, an i865 series chip and
the i915 series chips is in their audio and video capabilities. First
off the i9xx line has moved from AGP to PCI-Express for video and
optionally add-in cards. Secondly the integrated video (in the
versions of the chipset that have it) has been improved, as has the
integrated audio. Beyond that there is support for newer Intel
processors (including dual-core chips in the case of the i945), DDR2
memory and generally improved performance.

The board must have at least 5 PCI slots as I will be needing 4 of them
straight away for building a DVR system using bt878 based adapters.


That's probably going to limit your options somewhat. Most new boards
now have at least 1 PCI-Express 1x slot for add-in cards. This will
likely take away one PCI slot.

FWIW in a quick search through Asus's list of i915 and i945 series
boards (of which they have about 20) I didn't see any that had more
than 3 PCI slots.

The 915 and 945 are the boards recommended by the vendor of the
adapters, however I am looking for something moderately priced and I
am hoping that boards of this type are not too expensive.


They're pretty much the standard these days, so price shouldn't be too
big of an issue.

I'd also like to know what type of CPU chips go with them. There seem
to be so many Intel CPU types and I find it all rather confusing.


The i945 chipset is pretty much the latest and greatest of Intel's
"mainstream" chipsets and it will support all their current desktop
chips. The i915 is about a year and a half old now so it lacks
support for some of the newest chips, in particular the dual-core
chips.

Are there any stock Dell machines with enough slots which will fit the
bill? Even if they are server oriented that will be fine.


At a guess I would say no. I'm not too familiar with Dell's specs,
but 5 PCI slots is becoming quite a rarity with PCI-Express gradually
replacing PCI. FWIW I know HP's specs a bit better, and the best
you're likely to do with an HP system is the dc7600 CMT with the
option PCI Extender, which gives you a total of 4 PCI ports. The
xw6200 workstation also seems to come with 4 PCI slots, though that is
using the server/workstation E7525 chipset.

Most likely you're going to have to go with a motherboard from one of
the more specialty boards makers. Supermicro is one that jumps to
mind, possibly Tyan. The Supermicro PDSMA board should fit your bill
closely enough:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...7230/PDSMA.cfm

Again though, this is using the workstation E7230 chipset rather than
a desktop chipset.

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Old March 21st 06, 09:10 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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After doing some googling it looks like I have to rule out the 915/945
chipsets. They all appear to be based on PCI Express and the adapters I
am using are all PCI.

It looks like I have to go with the 865 and 875 chipsets. Which are the
better ones out there?

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Old March 23rd 06, 03:46 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Have you considered going with AMD? There are S939 boards that have 5
PCI slots and support dual core Athlon64 X2s

Which current motherboards are based on Intel 915 and Intel 945
chipsets?


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Old March 25th 06, 09:51 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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The PCI adapters in question are not considered to work well with AMD
boards. Pentium boards with Intel chipsets appear to be the preferred
type in that area.

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Old March 26th 06, 05:10 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:05:55 -0500, George Macdonald wrote:

On 25 Mar 2006 01:51:44 -0800, wrote:

The PCI adapters in question are not considered to work well with AMD
boards. Pentium boards with Intel chipsets appear to be the preferred
type in that area.


Huh? They don't work well with *any* of the five (six ?) chipsets for AMD
mbrds? They still get away with this crap... designing PCI cards which
only work with Intel chipset mbrds?


Maybe he's got five cards from Creative Labs. ;-) ...or more likely, a
troll.

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Old March 26th 06, 08:48 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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The boards in question are bt878 video capture cards used for multi
channel DVR capture. The vendors of the cards prefer Intel because in
their experience they have fewer reported problems with them.

Just because some people prefer, or even need to stick to products by
the dominant players in the PC business doesn't make them trolls.
Remember that no one ever got fired for going with IBM, Microsoft or
Intel.

Your apparent prejudices against the major industry players, probably
on account of their business practices are of no consequence to 99% of
computer users out there.

If you know of any non-Intel Pentium chipsets or AMD chipsets which are
known to work well with PV149 or Kodicom series DVR cards I'll be glad
to know.

PS. I'll be grateful if you don't take this thread off topic

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Old March 27th 06, 12:42 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:48:49 -0800, mydejamail wrote:

The boards in question are bt878 video capture cards used for multi
channel DVR capture. The vendors of the cards prefer Intel because in
their experience they have fewer reported problems with them.


They "prefer" Intel? ...perhaps so they don't have to actually *test*
them with other platforms? Come on! PCI is an antique. The
compatability issues are *long* gone.

Just because some people prefer, or even need to stick to products by
the dominant players in the PC business doesn't make them trolls.


Yes, trolls! Wake up, already! Intel hasn't been "dominant", in anything
other than the marketeering sense, for *years*.

Remember that no one ever got fired for going with IBM, Microsoft or
Intel.


....and that applied to IBM in the late '80s and early '90s? Please do
wake up. There is a bright and new world out there! ...and it ain't
Intel! Remember, Intel tried to hijack the platform first with slot-1,
then RDRAM, and when that became hopless (before actually) IA64. After
all, x86 *couldn't* be stretched to 64 bits. tap, tap, tap...

Your apparent prejudices against the major industry players, probably on
account of their business practices are of no consequence to 99% of
computer users out there.


99%? Have you looked at the share prices? Market share? Intel is in the
dull-drums. AMD is where the inoovation's been over tha past five years.
Get with the program!

If you know of any non-Intel Pentium chipsets or AMD chipsets which are
known to work well with PV149 or Kodicom series DVR cards I'll be glad
to know.


Are you saying that these turds don't know what a PCI spec is? Perhaps
they *are* owned by Creative! CL certainly can't read, but I thought
they were alone.

PS. I'll be grateful if you don't take this thread off topic


You are a troll! This *IS* the topic here! ...and you brought it up!

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Old March 27th 06, 09:39 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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On 26 Mar 2006 11:48:49 -0800, wrote:

The boards in question are bt878 video capture cards used for multi
channel DVR capture. The vendors of the cards prefer Intel because in
their experience they have fewer reported problems with them.


That's a cop-out - there's a formal spec and then you "design" and
"test"... and if necessary, collaborate with the mfr of chips you want to
interface to. Laziness is no excuse... nor incompetence... nor a
preference for dealing with only Intel. Are you sure there are no Intel
chipsets which have problems with other mfr's cards?

Just because some people prefer, or even need to stick to products by
the dominant players in the PC business doesn't make them trolls.
Remember that no one ever got fired for going with IBM, Microsoft or
Intel.


Lame excuse. Everbody's allowed to "prefer" for their choice of hardware -
having a reason is something else.

Your apparent prejudices against the major industry players, probably
on account of their business practices are of no consequence to 99% of
computer users out there.


Most competent card mfrs have fallen into line here - even VIA gets respect
now... sales numbers are important, which you seem not to have noticed...
99%?... where did you pull that from?

If you know of any non-Intel Pentium chipsets or AMD chipsets which are
known to work well with PV149 or Kodicom series DVR cards I'll be glad
to know.


I've no intreest in DVR for the moment but surely out there in the greater
Net there is some in depth info on this. Hell Lucas Arts et.al. is using
AMD systems for making movies, which would seem to indicate that there must
be a "way" to interface with exotic media processing cards.

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