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When a Green drive is not Green, especially
Placing a new 2T --
WD Green 2TB Desktop Hard Drive: 3.5-inch, ***SATA 6 Gb/s, IntelliPower, 64MB Cache WD20EZRX Couple of things surfaced when looking over the drive (after its initial sale price).... What makes it Green? For WD, apparently, an 8-second [default/shipped] timeout to shutting the drive down and parking its head. What's that mean? A high, hm "intelli-"count reported back through various safety and software monitoring drive-state counts;- premature failure and wear, in a worst-case scenario. About as laughable, I'd imagine, as some evidence of a lawsuit against WD that effected [revised] manufacturing of drives with "premature timeouts." What's that mean to me? Nothing, nada, squat. My drive, when I ran the WD-written (DOS) diagnostics reported back a default condition of 8 seconds*... *// Western Digital Corporation // 20511 Lake Forest Dr. // Lake Forest, CA 92630 // 1-800-275-4932 WDIDLE3 Version 1.05 for DOS DESCRIPTION- DOS Level utility to setup or report the idle3 value. FEATURES- Scan for all drives. Non-WD Drives shall only show the model and serial numbers. - Uses a Vendor Specific Command to set or get the idle3 timer. - Timer can be set from 8 to 25.5 seconds on older drives. **- Timer can be set from 8 to 300 seconds on newer drives. So, I changed it to the max allowable, 300 seconds**;- I'm also in the process of aiming the OS virtual memory file at a token logical partition to effect a Black Drive;- it'll never time out, in a circular fashion, with Microsoft things incessantly being done on that token partition. Might be a tad slower than Black-Fast, I guess, but for practical intents it should run like a black drive (that's left on 24/7). Only screw-up, I managed, so far is there's some pins, non-jumpered and defaulted to, presumably, SATA 3 Gb/s, rather than ***SATA 6 Gb/s the drive is advertised/produced for in truth. It's a relatively old machine, mine is, with 2 SATA ports on the MB and 2 on a SATA PCI card -- still, ought to be worth a shot, jumpering it for 6G/s. General principles. Nothing bad can happen, so it's a 'nothing ventured nothing gained' thing. (I deliberately leave my optical DVD disconnected, as it's seldom used or less than should it be easier/ advantageous simply to prop-up another storage drive for a quick connect and transfer of material data;- It's taking hours and hours, though fast, that way, as it is now, to migrate near a terabyte off an old 800G drive.) |
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When a Green drive is not Green, especially
On 3/3/15 6:55 PM, Flasherly wrote:
What makes it Green? For WD, apparently, an 8-second [default/shipped] timeout to shutting the drive down and parking its head. What's that mean? A high, hm "intelli-"count reported back through various safety and software monitoring drive-state counts;- premature failure and wear, in a worst-case scenario. Buyers were told to disable that feature so as not to kill the hard disk. |
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When a Green drive is not Green, especially
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:19:26 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: Buyers were told to disable that feature so as not to kill the hard disk. Either that or not to disable;- the 300 seconds timeout may be better than if to entirely disable, e.g.- the /D switch in the command line. |
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When a Green drive is not Green, especially
On 4/3/15 11:13 AM, Flasherly wrote:
Either that or not to disable;- the 300 seconds timeout may be better than if to entirely disable, e.g.- the /D switch in the command line. Does its firmware reject a timeout value that's too small? I wonder whether this is the problem... -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora release 21) Linux 3.18.7-200.fc21.i686+PAE ^ ^ 23:57:01 up 7 days 2:15 0 users load average: 0.00 0.03 0.05 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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When a Green drive is not Green, especially
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:07:35 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: Does its firmware reject a timeout value that's too small? I wonder whether this is the problem... No. Firmware accepts the utility -- WDIDLE3 Version 1.05 for DOS -- as it should. Nothing more or less. I put in 300 seconds, /S300, after reading (what I could *out of*) related searches/posts. I tend personally to favor a HDD running 24/7, though, never timing out for effectively a black drive, then. Why didn't I just use the /D parameter for [Dis]able...guess I read something that, perhaps, advanced /S300 for the better solution. Also - did catch my eye that WD faced a lawsuit from interests that apparently didn't believe a drive manufacturer should 'mandatory be forcing [on firmware] drive time-outs.' (People are closely watching drive models and their revisions;- interesting, that Western Digital reacted by taking some pains to erase such distinctions and identifying marks on given drives for discerning manufacturer changes.) Anyway, Man-wai, it's basically a popular drive "series," or one with at least an established trackrecord as a big-volume sales item. Also it's sitting aside a 2T Black Seagate (using a SDD for the OS, everything else - they're both 'mass storage' drives);- except for this particular WD Green, flavored with a S/300sec, 6 minute time-out, an effect which shouldn't ever occur, as I mentioned I did add to it a token (3G) logical partition for pointing where the OS's virtual memory swap file will reside. They should coexist operationally well together -- no delays, timeouts, anomalies (both also being extensions from a 3rd-party PCI-slotted drive controller). Only problem, at least I'm attempting to avoid, is not to fail at maintaining a continued track record I've had with long-lived HDD selections/purchases...5- to 10-year lifespans without any notable, particularly, catastrophic interventions. (Praised be duck entrails and augers the gods most favor!) (Well, I did get screwed locally on a local store promotion sales window, once, and only once -- for a few short hours for HDDs basically priced half off;- both so-called "sales drives," I purchased, Western Digital models, quit and broke as if coded into their firmware for a breakdown within 1 year and a few days after Western Digital's warrantee limitations expired. Heh - lesson learned: no more God Damned dog&pony, chainstore come-on sales plots with drive manufacturers, at least for me!) |
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