Leave your PC running 24/7? Leave your DSL modem always on?

The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

RL

On 10/07/2012 12:20 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

RL

I always turn my PC off, as long as it's not being used to do something
overnight. I leave the router and cable/dsl modem running all of the time.

I wouldn't say that it doesn't overheat, because it does benefit from an
occasional restart from time to time.

Yousuf Khan

RayLopez99 wrote:
The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night?
Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the
tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem
on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving
parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it
stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

RL

For the PC I switch it off.

Same for ADSL modem/router/switch. In fact, they're all
tied into one power strip, so they can be killed all at
the same time.

Of my little networking boxes, the modem/router and the router, have
no power management. The switch box, is able to power down Ethernet
ports which are not in usage. Which defeats WOL if you're using it.

I keep a fan blowing on the ADSL modem housing, and a second fan
blowing over the "wall of power adapters". The room gets pretty
warm around 5PM.

My original ADSL modem, was low power enough, it could be
ignored. It had a sheet metal enclosure (no plastic) and
ran cool to the touch at all times. The current ADSL modem
is probably in the 10 watt range. And the housing is plastic
on the current ADSL modem. Not really the best trend in
terms of improvements.

I upgrade equipment often enough, it's just as well to save
the electricity by switching them off. I doubt it affects the
lifespan enough, to kill them before upgrade time rolls
around again.

Paul

RayLopez99 wrote:

The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

Lack of moving parts doesn't necessarily mean something is more
reliable, especially because of electrolytic capacitors, which vary
greatly in longevity, depending on the quality. For example, my
digital TV converter boxes failed in just 2 years when several of
their Chinese capacitors went bad. In comparison, the old TV one of
them is connected to has needed only 2 new capacitors -- in its 35+
years of life (all Japanese capacitors). DSL modems are similar to
TV converters in that they both contain switching mode voltage
regulators, which can be rough on capacitors, and my DSL modems were
made with cheapo brand capacitors. So maybe it would be a good idea
to disconnect the AC power if it's not used much, and I mean turn off
the power strip/surge protector so the modem's standby power circuitry
doesn't stay on. OTOH a lot of times the standby power fails when
it's turned on, including in computer power supplies.

RayLopez99;1347305 Wrote:
The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and
night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy,
and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do
leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it
off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does
not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart
power setting".

RL

I shut down PC, Modem, and UPS when finished for the day.
I also unplug UPS when PC is not in use if thunderstorms are in the
area.

On Jul 10, 12:20 pm, RayLopez99 wrote:
The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

RL

I've got power strips hooked up to an assignable IR-keyed PWR-ON
cubes;- the cubes also remember their last logical PWR state, IOW,
turn it off and if there's a brown/black out it stays OFF. You can't
find them unless up to direct marketing out of Asia. It's
conceptually a computer I've rigged to turn on as if a television and
its dedicated remote;- simple BIOS switch, PWR-ON computer when power
present to PS unit, and that's all it takes. I also assign them to a
television remote keypad for buttons seldom used. Got the idea when
the logic on my television did actually screw up, and wouldn't come
out of STBY mode when a signal is presented;- now takes it within a
PWR OFF state, and a signal present, to bring it functionally up at
PWR ON. Worked out so well with the Hong Kong cube, I went back
bought some more and set a computer up for one. Could as easily have
been the Logitec remote IR keyboard, though, couple of key presses
from on my ass on a leather couch to turn on/off, flat panel
television, computer, and three or so various 115V audio processing
units.

Sure, I can leave it on and go to sleep to it if I want. Not a
problem.

On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:20:09 AM UTC+10, RayLopez99 wrote:
The topic of conversation is do you leave your PC running all day and night? Assume it's not part of a server farm. I say no: wastes energy, and the tribology benefits are small. On the other hand, I often do leave my DSL modem on all day and night, since I'm too lazy to turn it off. As it has no moving parts I think that's safe to do, and it does not seem to overheat (though it stays hot, and does not have a "smart power setting".

RL

I leave the ADSL on, and have it on a UPS, as that way you can use the VOIP phone at any time, even in a blackout. Computer is on if it is doing something, other wise off.

Since I don't have any VPN or VOIP stuff, I always turn off all
computers and peripherals if I need leave home for a whole day. For
short trips (e.g. shopping), I would keep them running.

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On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:36:42 PM UTC-4, larry moe 'n curly wrote:
OTOH a lot of times the standby power fails when
it's turned on, including in computer power supplies.

So if I read correctly, the most likely time for a component to fail is when the power strip is turned on? Is that right? Assume the power strip does not have APS (battery) but is just a cheap Joule surge capacitor whatever they use in cheap $12 power strips.

If that's what you are saying, since there is a small temporary power spike whenever you turn on a switch (I think), please let me know as that would argue for not turning on and off the modem power supply, even though it does have a cheap SWITCHING AC TO DC POWER SUPPLY which I think for power spike / power surge purposes is inferior to an old, heavy, oil filled traditional wired up old-fashioned transformer.

RL

On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:56:10 AM UTC-4, Flasherly wrote:

turn it off and if there's a brown/black out it stays OFF. You can't
find them unless up to direct marketing out of Asia. I

LOL good one Flasherly. I somehow figured either you or Paul would have the most complicated (but failsafe) system set up...

RL