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64 bit OS compatability
If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and
new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz |
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:25:51 -0400, Menuz2 wrote:
If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz It's not a 32 bit vs 64 bit issue. The real problem is likely to be with the libraries that the binary applications require. For example I use a number of binary applications, Cadence's NCsim and Xilinx's tool suite. On Mandrake 10 (32 bit version on a standard Xeon or PIII) I can't run the GUI tools in Xilinx's suite but I can run everything in the Cadence tool set. The issue has to do with some library that changed between between Mandrake 9.2 and 10, Xilinx relies on it, Cadence doesn't. In theory there should be no problem running both 32 and 64 bit binaries on a 64 bit OS but you won't know for your applications unless you try them. |
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Yes, unlike MS Win64 for AMD, Linux 64 will run 32 bit programs.
Menuz2 wrote: If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz |
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Win64 for AMD does run 32-bit software.
"Van Souza" wrote in message news:Ayxoc.17932$k24.2568@fed1read01... Yes, unlike MS Win64 for AMD, Linux 64 will run 32 bit programs. Menuz2 wrote: If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz |
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Win64 for AMD does run 32bit programs.
1. Office 2002 Pro 2. Red Alert 2 & addon Yuri's Revenge 3. Unreal Tournament GOTY edition 4. Simcity 3000 And I am sure it does many many more, but those I tested myself. g Wayne "Van Souza" wrote in message news:Ayxoc.17932$k24.2568@fed1read01... Yes, unlike MS Win64 for AMD, Linux 64 will run 32 bit programs. Menuz2 wrote: If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz |
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:51:56 -0500, "Wayne @ W."
wrote: Win64 for AMD does run 32bit programs. 1. Office 2002 Pro 2. Red Alert 2 & addon Yuri's Revenge 3. Unreal Tournament GOTY edition 4. Simcity 3000 And I am sure it does many many more, but those I tested myself. g Wayne True ... There just aren't a whole lot of DRIVERS for 64-bit Windows yet ... - bebopper |
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That is so true. Fortuneatly it has drivers that come with it for my ATI AIW
8500DV 64mb card, and Creative released drivers for my Auidgy 2 ZS sound card, and Nvidia released updated 64bit drivers for my Nforce 3 250 Chipset mobo. ) Oh, and it came with drivers for my HP 932c Deskjet printer. Wayne "bebopper" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:51:56 -0500, "Wayne @ W." wrote: Win64 for AMD does run 32bit programs. 1. Office 2002 Pro 2. Red Alert 2 & addon Yuri's Revenge 3. Unreal Tournament GOTY edition 4. Simcity 3000 And I am sure it does many many more, but those I tested myself. g Wayne True ... There just aren't a whole lot of DRIVERS for 64-bit Windows yet ... - bebopper |
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:26:55 -0400, General Schvantzkoph wrote:
It's not a 32 bit vs 64 bit issue. The real problem is likely to be with the libraries that the binary applications require. For example I use a number of binary applications, Cadence's NCsim and Xilinx's tool suite. On Mandrake 10 (32 bit version on a standard Xeon or PIII) I can't run the GUI tools in Xilinx's suite but I can run everything in the Cadence tool set. The issue has to do with some library that changed between between Mandrake 9.2 and 10, Xilinx relies on it, Cadence doesn't. In theory there should be no problem running both 32 and 64 bit binaries on a 64 bit OS but you won't know for your applications unless you try them. So Xilinx relies on a 32bit library that AMD64 Mandrake 10 doesn't have. Get a binary image of the old lib and install it. Better yet get the source for the older version and compile a 32bit image and it should work. Try doing that with most MS Windows programmes. This is the real advantage of open source, you're not tied to the whims of a third party. -- Ian. EOM |
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"Ian Hastie" wrote in message news On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:26:55 -0400, General Schvantzkoph wrote: It's not a 32 bit vs 64 bit issue. The real problem is likely to be with the libraries that the binary applications require. For example I use a number of binary applications, Cadence's NCsim and Xilinx's tool suite. On Mandrake 10 (32 bit version on a standard Xeon or PIII) I can't run the GUI tools in Xilinx's suite but I can run everything in the Cadence tool set. The issue has to do with some library that changed between between Mandrake 9.2 and 10, Xilinx relies on it, Cadence doesn't. In theory there should be no problem running both 32 and 64 bit binaries on a 64 bit OS but you won't know for your applications unless you try them. So Xilinx relies on a 32bit library that AMD64 Mandrake 10 doesn't have. Get a binary image of the old lib and install it. Better yet get the source for the older version and compile a 32bit image and it should work. Try doing that with most MS Windows programmes. This is the real advantage of open source, you're not tied to the whims of a third party. -- Ian. EOM Flash: EU Software Patent Legislation: a real threat for Linux and Open Source Mandrakesoft would like to alert all users and the software community at large about a recent clandestine attack by proprietary interest through covert adoption of EU Software Patent Legislation. In direct contravention of the recent vote by the European Parliament to curtail Software Patents, the Irish Presidency of the European Union has surreptitiously reinstated unlimited software patent language into the text of a statement to be adopted by the European Council of Ministers on Monday May, 17th, without further debate! The new text, if adopted, will extend Software Patents to every piece of software, including computer programs, data structures, and process descriptions. This will directly harm most software firms and all Open Source projects unable to pay patent licensing tribute, and amounts to an appropriation of the public domain by proprietary interests. A direct beneficiary will be a new class of pure patent companies without any real business or contribution to employment, which will use the threat of litigation to extort payments. Of note is that a sponsor of the Irish Presidency is Microsoft, currently building a large patent portfolio. If the Software Patent text is adopted, Microsoft may use this patent portfolio against Linux and other Open Source projects. Mandrakesoft would like to forewarn and mobilize its users and the software community about the very real threat of such a law. Please contact the media, your political representatives, and your government, and urge them to vote against unlimited Software Patents and to revert to the previous European Parliament position. For further information please see the following links: http://swpat.ffii.org/journal/04/cons0507/index.en.html http://kwiki.ffii.org/SwpatcninoEn Mandrakesoft Online Team. |
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Also MS Train-Sim and Flight Sim! :-)
"Wayne @ W." wrote in message ... Win64 for AMD does run 32bit programs. 1. Office 2002 Pro 2. Red Alert 2 & addon Yuri's Revenge 3. Unreal Tournament GOTY edition 4. Simcity 3000 And I am sure it does many many more, but those I tested myself. g Wayne "Van Souza" wrote in message news:Ayxoc.17932$k24.2568@fed1read01... Yes, unlike MS Win64 for AMD, Linux 64 will run 32 bit programs. Menuz2 wrote: If I load a 64 bit Linux, such as SUSE, will it run both existing 32 bit and new 64 bit binaries. Not every program I would like to use is available in source. Most but not all. The same question for the beta XP 86-64 release. Normal Win32 OS's did a good job running 16 programs, I am just wondering about the new 64 OSes? Nuz |
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