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why catalyst control center did not offer me software crossfire option/ what is the requirement of software crossfire
Hello. I have MSI RD480 Neo2 motherboard, a "CrossFire Xpress 3200"
motherboard (or so called "AMD 580X Crossfire chipset"). My original PCI-E Radeon card is labeled (by a sticker) X1650. I purchased another PCI-E Radeon card from the same vendor which looks almost identical to the old one, also sticker-labeled X1650, with only slight difference that one has a power supply slot and the other doesn't. Any one of the two works fine when used standalone. Now I installed both, and went to BIOS setting, enabled Dual Slot GFX support, think I am ready to run in cross fire mode. According to discussion on the Internet the next and last thing I should do is to enable crossfire mode in CCC, but there is no option for it even though my CCC (version 2010.0210) can correctly recognize that I have two ATI cards installed. I start to doubt if something is wrong with the driver, or is the crossfire mode requirement very strict. CCC reports one card as "ATI Radeon X1650" and another as "Radeon X1600 Serials". It can happen that although both cards have a sticker of X1650 one might be actually X1600. Is it true that both card must be strictly the same in order to run CrossFire? How strict? The following is detail configuration of all my PCI and PCI-E cards, output from lspci(1) utility on Linux: (If you are only interested in Radeon cards, do a search of "VGA compatible controller") 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort+ SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0 Kernel modules: ati-agp 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI-X Root Port Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff Memory behind bridge: ddd00000-dddfffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: b0000000-bfffffff Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort+ SERR- PERR- BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA+ MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn- Capabilities: access denied Kernel modules: shpchp 00:03.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a35 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff Memory behind bridge: dde00000-ddefffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: c0000000-cfffffff Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn- Capabilities: access denied Kernel modules: shpchp 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Capabilities: access denied 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Kernel driver in use: k8temp Kernel modules: k8temp 00:19.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort+ SERR+ PERR- INTx- Latency: 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=64 I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000efff Memory behind bridge: ddf00000-ddffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fff00000-000fffff Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort+ SERR+ PERR+ BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- FastB2B- PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn- Capabilities: access denied Kernel modules: shpchp 00:1c.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+ INTx- Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17 Region 0: Memory at ddce3000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 00:1c.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+ INTx- Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 18 Region 0: Memory at ddce2000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 00:1c.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+ INTx- Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 19 Region 0: Memory at ddce1000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 00:1c.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 20) Subsystem: ALi Corporation Device 5238 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+ INTx- Latency: 64 (4000ns min, 8000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 23 Region 0: Memory at ddce0c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd 00:1d.0 Audio device: ALi Corporation High Definition Audio/AC'97 Host Controller Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (4000ns min, 20000ns max) Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 22 Region 0: Memory at ddccc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel 00:1e.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation PCI to LPC Controller (rev 31) Subsystem: ALi Corporation PCI to LPC Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0 (250ns min, 6000ns max) 00:1e.1 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU] Subsystem: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU] Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Kernel modules: alim7101_wdt, i2c-ali15x3, i2c-ali1535 00:1f.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c7) (prog-if fa) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 32 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21 Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8] Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1] Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8] Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1] Region 4: I/O ports at ff00 [size=16] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: pata_ali Kernel modules: pata_ali 00:1f.1 RAID bus controller: ALi Corporation ULi 5287 SATA (rev 02) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21 Region 0: I/O ports at a800 [size=16] Region 1: I/O ports at a400 [size=8] Region 2: I/O ports at a000 [size=16] Region 3: I/O ports at 9800 [size=8] Region 4: I/O ports at 9400 [size=32] Region 5: Memory at ddce0800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: sata_uli Kernel modules: sata_uli 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530LE [Radeon X1600] Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2552 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18 Region 0: Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Region 2: Memory at dddf0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Region 4: I/O ports at b000 [size=256] Expansion ROM at dddc0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 71ee Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2553 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Region 0: Memory at ddde0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: access denied 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Series (rev 9a) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2542 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19 Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Region 2: Memory at ddef0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Region 4: I/O ports at c000 [size=256] Expansion ROM at ddec0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon 02:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Series (Secondary) (rev 9a) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2543 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Region 0: Memory at ddee0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: access denied 03:10.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 8065 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (500ns min, 5000ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20 Region 0: I/O ports at e800 [size=32] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1 03:10.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 0a) Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 0020 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 Region 0: I/O ports at e400 [size=8] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: Emu10k1_gameport Kernel modules: emu10k1-gp 03:14.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 46) (prog-if 10) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 194d Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (8000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22 Region 0: Memory at ddff7800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] Region 1: I/O ports at e000 [size=128] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: ohci1394 Kernel modules: firewire-ohci, ohci1394 03:16.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 194c Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (8000ns min, 16000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 23 Region 0: I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Region 1: Memory at ddff7400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Expansion ROM at ddfc0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: r8169 Kernel modules: r8169 |
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why catalyst control center did not offer me software crossfireoption / what is the requirement of software crossfire
On 2010年09月22日 20:41, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
It can happen that although both cards have a sticker of X1650 one might be actually is X1600. For this I have 2 other notes. 1. One card is labeled "X1650GT 256HM DDR3", the other is labeled "X1650 256HM DDR3". These sticker-labels are from the vendor instead of from resellers thus more reliable. 2. I am pretty sure both board have identical circuit board, because even the smallest capacitors on them are located in exactly the same place, although I could not be sure the chip being the same, because they are beneath the fans. I am confident that any consumer (means non-professional) would think they are the same card. |
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why catalyst control center did not offer me software crossfireoption / what is the requirement of software crossfire
On 2010年09月22日 20:41, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Hello. I have MSI RD480 Neo2 motherboard, a "CrossFire Xpress 3200" motherboard (or so called "AMD 580X Crossfire chipset"). There is a mistake in this description. MSI RD480 Neo2 motherboard actually is CrossFire Xpress 1600 motherboard, or AMD 480X. The mistake is from mis-writting in my notebook. There was a page about combination of different ATI cards of the software crossfire. But it was removed several years ago. http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossf...binations.html The new chart is on a new URI with only CrossfireX cards. |
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why catalyst control center did not offer me software crossfire option / what is the requirement of software crossfire
"Zhang Weiwu" wrote in message
... On 2010?09?22? 20:41, Zhang Weiwu wrote: It can happen that although both cards have a sticker of X1650 one might be actually is X1600. For this I have 2 other notes. 1. One card is labeled "X1650GT 256HM DDR3", the other is labeled "X1650 256HM DDR3". These sticker-labels are from the vendor instead of from resellers thus more reliable. The X1650GT and X1650_ are not official ATI models. Googling for them turned up the following specs: The X1650GT was a slower-clocked X1650XT, so it used the RV560 core with 8 texture units, 24 pixel shaders and DDR3 memory at 600 MHz. The X1650_ was a renamed X1600 Pro, so it used the RV535 core with 4 texture units, 12 pixel shaders and DDR2 memory at 400 MHz. It's probably why the card shows up in CCC as "X1600 Series". Thus, X1650GT and X1650_ are in fact very different cards. Even if you coax them into working in Crossfire, the performance gain over the single X1650GT may be trivial. Two common Crossfire algorithms, AFR and supertiling, are limited by the slower card. 2. I am pretty sure both board have identical circuit board, because even the smallest capacitors on them are located in exactly the same place, although I could not be sure the chip being the same, because they are beneath the fans. I am confident that any consumer (means non-professional) would think they are the same card. One has an external power connector while the other one doesn't, right? -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." |
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why catalyst control center did not offer me software crossfire option / what is the requirement of software crossfire
In article , "First of One" wrote:
"Zhang Weiwu" wrote in message ... On 2010?09?22? 20:41, Zhang Weiwu wrote: It can happen that although both cards have a sticker of X1650 one might be actually is X1600. For this I have 2 other notes. 1. One card is labeled "X1650GT 256HM DDR3", the other is labeled "X1650 256HM DDR3". These sticker-labels are from the vendor instead of from resellers thus more reliable. The X1650GT and X1650_ are not official ATI models. Googling for them turned up the following specs: Nonesense, I own a retail boxed X1650 ATI card. Not a rebadged unit. The X1650GT was a slower-clocked X1650XT, so it used the RV560 core with 8 texture units, 24 pixel shaders and DDR3 memory at 600 MHz. The X1650_ was a renamed X1600 Pro, so it used the RV535 core with 4 texture units, 12 pixel shaders and DDR2 memory at 400 MHz. It's probably why the card shows up in CCC as "X1600 Series". Thus, X1650GT and X1650_ are in fact very different cards. Even if you coax them into working in Crossfire, the performance gain over the single X1650GT may be trivial. Two common Crossfire algorithms, AFR and supertiling, are limited by the slower card. 2. I am pretty sure both board have identical circuit board, because even the smallest capacitors on them are located in exactly the same place, although I could not be sure the chip being the same, because they are beneath the fans. I am confident that any consumer (means non-professional) would think they are the same card. One has an external power connector while the other one doesn't, right? |
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