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Dell sued for "bait and switch" and false promises
Dell is involved in a class action suit for
"bait and switch", where a nurse claims Dell switched parts and charged her for the more expensive items, and for promising "easy credit" for which no one qualifies and then charges ridiculously high interest rates. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/22/tech..._lawsuit.reut/ http://www.lerachlaw.com/lcsr-cgi-bi...ured/dell.html *TimDaniels* |
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It seems someone did not read the credit terms, before purchasing item,
"buyers' remorse". And lawyers trying to make a buck from it. Hope federal tort reform gets passed by the congress, so we can get rid of these charlatans. -- Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... Dell is involved in a class action suit for "bait and switch", where a nurse claims Dell switched parts and charged her for the more expensive items, and for promising "easy credit" for which no one qualifies and then charges ridiculously high interest rates. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/22/tech..._lawsuit.reut/ http://www.lerachlaw.com/lcsr-cgi-bi...ured/dell.html *TimDaniels* |
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i agree that the buyer probably didn't read the credit terms to find
themselves with an unexpected rate... i always see that "for qualified customers" in all of their advertisements that probably releases them of any wrong doing... but i also believe in the court systems so let it take its course and see what happens. the only tort reform that i think should be done is to cap fees that lawyers are allowed to extract for class action suits. i feel that there is a valuable public service that comes from class actions suits which is to keep companies on the straight and narrow so that they avoid such actions... but from a monetary perspective the only real winners from class actions are the lawyers. i remember once receiving a fifty cent check in an envelope with postage of at least half that amount for the great 17" monitor class action suit. "RRR_News" wrote in message ... It seems someone did not read the credit terms, before purchasing item, "buyers' remorse". And lawyers trying to make a buck from it. Hope federal tort reform gets passed by the congress, so we can get rid of these charlatans. -- Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... Dell is involved in a class action suit for "bait and switch", where a nurse claims Dell switched parts and charged her for the more expensive items, and for promising "easy credit" for which no one qualifies and then charges ridiculously high interest rates. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/22/tech..._lawsuit.reut/ http://www.lerachlaw.com/lcsr-cgi-bi...ured/dell.html *TimDaniels* |
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Then there was the class action suit against Gateway brought by some
Philadelphia lawyers a number of years ago. Gateway advertised and stickered many of its 486 computers as "Pentium Ready", meaning that a special Type 3 ZIF socket Pentium OverDrive could be installed and run. Micronics designed the motherboards used by Gateway, and the basis of the design was a prototype Pentium OverDrive with an internal write-through cache, a more conservative cache design. Then Intel changed the Pentium OverDrive, and the final version had a write-BACK cache. When installed in a Gateway system, the chip ran slower than slow, maybe about as fast as an IBM AT, and bus-mastering devices like NICs and SCSI cards refused to work. So the lawyers sued Gateway, and the settlement approved by the judge consisted of megabucks for the lawyers and coupons to owners of Gateway 486 computers. The coupon was good for $50 off on the purchase of a Pentium OverDrive processor from Gateway, at its usual inflated prices !!! So, let's see. What does a discount coupon for a processor I can't use in my system do for me? I wonder how many people gleefully cashed in their coupons and bought Pentium OverDrives from Gateway. Intel eventually compensated by making available an "interposer", a little socketed thingie installed between the Pentium OverDrive and the ZIF socket. The sole purpose of the interposer was to raise a signal on the CPU to force its cache to operate in the write-thru mode which was compatible with most ZIF Socket 3 486 motherboards. Needless to say, this was the least successful "OverDrive" CPU ever done by Intel. The 486-DX4 OverDrive was OK, as were several Socket 5 Pentium OverDrives and the Socket 8 Pentium Pro OverDrive. Finally Intel gave up on OverDrives... Ben Myers On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:50:32 GMT, "Christopher Muto" wrote: i agree that the buyer probably didn't read the credit terms to find themselves with an unexpected rate... i always see that "for qualified customers" in all of their advertisements that probably releases them of any wrong doing... but i also believe in the court systems so let it take its course and see what happens. the only tort reform that i think should be done is to cap fees that lawyers are allowed to extract for class action suits. i feel that there is a valuable public service that comes from class actions suits which is to keep companies on the straight and narrow so that they avoid such actions... but from a monetary perspective the only real winners from class actions are the lawyers. i remember once receiving a fifty cent check in an envelope with postage of at least half that amount for the great 17" monitor class action suit. "RRR_News" wrote in message ... It seems someone did not read the credit terms, before purchasing item, "buyers' remorse". And lawyers trying to make a buck from it. Hope federal tort reform gets passed by the congress, so we can get rid of these charlatans. -- Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... Dell is involved in a class action suit for "bait and switch", where a nurse claims Dell switched parts and charged her for the more expensive items, and for promising "easy credit" for which no one qualifies and then charges ridiculously high interest rates. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/22/tech..._lawsuit.reut/ http://www.lerachlaw.com/lcsr-cgi-bi...ured/dell.html *TimDaniels* |
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Believe it or not there are companies that go over the line and need to be
hit with a stick called a law suit. It seems the fear of law suits is the only thing that keeps some of these crooked companies in line. The government sure doesn't have the resources or desire to pursue them so it's left to the private sector to protect themselves. Lawyers are bounty hunters of sorts. BTW, I hate lawyers but there are times that they are useful. Some are sleazebags but that can be said of most professions. There has to be at least a little threat of "let the company beware" to maintain a balance otherwise it'll be open season on consumers. "RRR_News" wrote in message ... It seems someone did not read the credit terms, before purchasing item, "buyers' remorse". And lawyers trying to make a buck from it. Hope federal tort reform gets passed by the congress, so we can get rid of these charlatans. -- Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... Dell is involved in a class action suit for "bait and switch", where a nurse claims Dell switched parts and charged her for the more expensive items, and for promising "easy credit" for which no one qualifies and then charges ridiculously high interest rates. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/22/tech..._lawsuit.reut/ http://www.lerachlaw.com/lcsr-cgi-bi...ured/dell.html *TimDaniels* |
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"Nascar12" wrote:
There has to be at least a little threat of "let the company beware" to maintain a balance otherwise it'll be open season on consumers. I agree. *TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
"Nascar12" wrote: There has to be at least a little threat of "let the company beware" to maintain a balance otherwise it'll be open season on consumers. I agree. *TimDaniels* The only people who profit from class actions are the lawyers. Since companies are going to be sued in class action, regardless of the merits of the case, the threat of a class action is not a detriment. If you don't believe that, witness the Vioxx lawsuits. The company making Vioxx determined it might increase mortality and pulled it from the market. Because of that, it is being sued. The companies making similar drugs (Celebrex and Bextra) did not pull their product from the market. They are not being sued. Doing the right thing provides no protection from class action. All class actions do is enrich lawyers and raise costs to everyone. The cost of class actions is factored into the cost of everything you buy. |
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"Jerry Park" wrote in message .. . All class actions do is enrich lawyers and raise costs to everyone. The cost of class actions is factored into the cost of everything you buy. The last time I looked, the USA had more lawyers per head of poulation than any other country. That was quite a long time ago, so it might have changed. Clearly, if you have that many lawyers sitting around, they'll find a way of making work for themselves. |
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"Jerry Park" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: "Nascar12" wrote: There has to be at least a little threat of "let the company beware" to maintain a balance otherwise it'll be open season on consumers. I agree. *TimDaniels* The only people who profit from class actions are the lawyers. Since companies are going to be sued in class action, regardless of the merits of the case, the threat of a class action is not a detriment. If you don't believe that, witness the Vioxx lawsuits. The company making Vioxx determined it might increase mortality and pulled it from the market. Because of that, it is being sued. The companies making similar drugs (Celebrex and Bextra) did not pull their product from the market. They are not being sued. Doing the right thing provides no protection from class action. All class actions do is enrich lawyers and raise costs to everyone. The cost of class actions is factored into the cost of everything you buy. Perhaps it is factored into every drug that you buy, but there is still *some* incentive to keep the cost of drugs down so that doctors don't prescribe alternative drugs. On the other hand, how else would consumers be protected from being cheated by large corporations if there could be no class action suits? Do *you* have the resources to sue, say, Microsoft? GE? Toyota? Merril Lynch? Dell? *TimDaniels* |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
"Jerry Park" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: "Nascar12" wrote: There has to be at least a little threat of "let the company beware" to maintain a balance otherwise it'll be open season on consumers. I agree. *TimDaniels* The only people who profit from class actions are the lawyers. Since companies are going to be sued in class action, regardless of the merits of the case, the threat of a class action is not a detriment. If you don't believe that, witness the Vioxx lawsuits. The company making Vioxx determined it might increase mortality and pulled it from the market. Because of that, it is being sued. The companies making similar drugs (Celebrex and Bextra) did not pull their product from the market. They are not being sued. Doing the right thing provides no protection from class action. All class actions do is enrich lawyers and raise costs to everyone. The cost of class actions is factored into the cost of everything you buy. Perhaps it is factored into every drug that you buy, but there is still *some* incentive to keep the cost of drugs down so that doctors don't prescribe alternative drugs. On the other hand, how else would consumers be protected from being cheated by large corporations if there could be no class action suits? Do *you* have the resources to sue, say, Microsoft? GE? Toyota? Merril Lynch? Dell? *TimDaniels* No, I don't have the resources to sue someone. If I received a bad product from one of the above listed companies, and the company did not deal appropriately with me, I'd just lose the cost of the product. If, however, someone filed a class action suit against the company that sold me a bad product, I'd still lose the cost of the product and I would pay more for the replacement product. You don't really think anyone BUT lawyers receive anything of real value from class action suits? |
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