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Hi Bruce
Does that mean if one person owns 4 PCs only one license is needed? A = bit heavy on 'National Security' - I thought. Will "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message = ... Greetings -- =20 Personally, I prefer John Dvorak's solution: require all computer owners to get a license. =20 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1224343,00.asp =20 =20 Bruce Chambers =20 -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html =20 You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. -- RAH =20 =20 "Steve" wrote in message ... Excerpts from Ed Foster's Gripelog - Snipped.... =20 =20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 |
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"BananaPannaPoe" wrote in message
... They already have an autoupdate program that keeps you updated. WAKE UP! Maybe YOU should wake up. The article is about forcing automatic updates. The current system of automatic updates is optional and can easily be turned off. -Tim |
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"Will Denny" wrote in message
... ....and those that didn't install the Security/Critical updates - automatically or manually when offered - have now found themselves in deep doo-doo. Luckily some of the MS-MVPs - too many to mention - have managed to help these poor unfortunates. MS don't make updates available just for the sheer Hell of it - not like your posting. I'm still trying to find a sensible question in it - or is it a general dig at MS - as a lot of postings ATM are - the posters not really knowing the 'ins and outs' of a specific problem. Will --- I think part of the issue is that when XP was released, it was touted as the most secure OS ever. Arguably, that has not been true. However, if you ever do a clean install of XP before applying the updates, time how long it takes XP to start up, and then time how long it takes IE to start up. Then install the updates and see the huge difference in the speed of your system. It really is sad to see those updates make such a huge negative impact in your system performance because if not for this issue, I would be all in favor of these updates. -Tim |
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"Dave C." wrote in message =
k.net... Maybe it's time to dump this crap and get a Mac. It may also be time to treat the terrorists like terrorists before they take out a nuke plant and execute them. Every one of these bug, worms goes after M$. My next machine WILL be = a Mac! Fact. =20 What the heck is that going to solve? It's not the machine, it's the = OS. Why dump the hardware when there's nothing wrong with it? You can = always switch to linux if you feel that strongly about this issue. -Dave Linux - that 'OS' is a bigger laugh than my mother-in-law 'passing wind' = into a trombone. Will --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 |
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See Below...
-- Check out http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com for amazing tweaks and fixes Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone" (Perdita X. Twitt is a self-appointed, self-righteous, ruthless, bitchy net-cop too!) Email address is fake to prevent SPAM. Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com Change the obvious to the obvious. ------------------ "helmsman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:53:52 -0700, Steve wrote: Excerpts from Ed Foster's Gripelog - =================== It's a depressing irony, but the creep who wrote the Blaster worm may very well have done Microsoft a tremendous favor. Maybe it's time to dump this crap and get a Mac. Macs are very user-friendly, and very secure. But they are very pricey, and of no use to power users. Plus, most software isn't written for mac. And you can't configure them as much, hardware and software. It may also be time to treat the terrorists like terrorists before they take out a nuke plant and execute them. I'm glad you don't make the decisions. I hate terrorists, but we can't go around killing people. Lock them up, and throw away the key. Of course, this is a very conterversial issue, so let's not get into that. After all, what better argument could the folks in Redmond have been handed to do what they've always wanted to do - namely, force users to accept automatic Windows updates. It's their choice wheather to update or not. That statement is just ignorant. Plus, Updates are there for a reason. My computer ran smoother after installing SP1 Every one of these bug, worms goes after M$. My next machine WILL be a Mac! Fact. Good for you. As well, they go after Windows because they were written for windows. Why? Because most people use Windows, so it'll infect more people. And if Apple is sooo great, then why does MS have to give them money to keep them in business. |
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Big issue. The fact is, just like with counterfeit money, people find ways
to get around the security issues. -- Check out http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com for amazing tweaks and fixes Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone" (Perdita X. Twitt is a self-appointed, self-righteous, ruthless, bitchy net-cop too!) Email address is fake to prevent SPAM. Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com Change the obvious to the obvious. ------------------ "Mike Berger" wrote in message ... It occured to me that if Microsoft really wanted to help the safety of a lot more customers, they could write a more secure operating system in the first place. Maybe they should focus on the basics instead of trying to provide every imaginable application and utility built in to the OS. Steve wrote: Excerpts from Ed Foster's Gripelog - =================== It's a depressing irony, but the creep who wrote the Blaster worm may very well have done Microsoft a tremendous favor. After all, what better argument could the folks in Redmond have been handed to do what they've always wanted to do - namely, force users to accept automatic Windows updates. Earlier this week, the Washington Post quoted Mike Nash, Microsoft corporate vice president, as saying the company is "looking very seriously" at requiring at least home users to have their operating system automatically updated when Microsoft sends out a fix. Another Microsoft security official was quoted as saying that having home and small business users automatically receive and install software fixes "would help the safety of a lot more customers." |
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Will Denny wrote:
"Dave C." wrote in message k.net... Maybe it's time to dump this crap and get a Mac. It may also be time to treat the terrorists like terrorists before they take out a nuke plant and execute them. Every one of these bug, worms goes after M$. My next machine WILL be a Mac! Fact. What the heck is that going to solve? It's not the machine, it's the OS. Why dump the hardware when there's nothing wrong with it? You can always switch to linux if you feel that strongly about this issue. -Dave Linux - that 'OS' is a bigger laugh than my mother-in-law 'passing wind' into a trombone. That's why even MS uses Akamai Linux servers to protect their web site from DoS attacks! LOL! I guess MS is protecting their web site with your mother-in-law's farts! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.kurttrail.com "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!" |
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"Tim Miser" wrote:
I think part of the issue is that when XP was released, it was touted as the most secure OS ever. Arguably, that has not been true. However, if you ever do a clean install of XP before applying the updates, time how long it takes XP to start up, and then time how long it takes IE to start up. Then install the updates and see the huge difference in the speed of your system. Not to mention the folks who buy a brand-new XP system, then have to spend hours downloading updates on a dialup connection. |
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"PCyr" wrote in message ... See Below... "helmsman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:53:52 -0700, Steve wrote: Excerpts from Ed Foster's Gripelog - =================== It's a depressing irony, but the creep who wrote the Blaster worm may very well have done Microsoft a tremendous favor. Maybe it's time to dump this crap and get a Mac. Macs are very user-friendly, and very secure True. . But they are very pricey, and Which models? For what most people *really* do, an eMac (starting at $799) would work perfectly. iBook ($999) if you needed mobility. of no use to power users. Plus, most software isn't written for mac. And "Most software" being... ? Games? I'll give you that, though that's getting better. Anti virus utilities? MS Office... no, wait, that's on the Mac. Of course, for what most people do, the included Appleworks does fine. And IIRC reads Office formats. you can't configure them as much, hardware and software. But do you really NEED to? More RAM. Sure. Hard drives? Sure. The PowerMacs are easy to open and get into - and aimed at the professional. The iMac and eMac are aimed at the home/casual user, and are closer to the "computer appliance." And if Apple is sooo great, then why does MS have to give them money to keep them in business. Ummm... they don't. Why did they give them money before (and get non voting stock?) PR. One time. Over five years ago. And in the overall scheme of things - it *wasn't* that much. The original iMac really turned things around for them. |
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It's a bit of both.
-- Check out http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com for amazing tweaks and fixes Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone" (Perdita X. Twitt is a self-appointed, self-righteous, ruthless, bitchy net-cop too!) Email address is fake to prevent SPAM. Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com Change the obvious to the obvious. ------------------ "Steve" wrote in message ... "PCyr" wrote: Macs are very user-friendly, and very secure. Is the Mac OS really that much more secure than Windows? Or does its apparent security have more to do with hackers spending their time attacking the dominant OS? |
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