How to get hardware acceleration in OpenGL?

I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the Ti4200
which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the nVidia
releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these nvopengl.dll drivers is
being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there is no hardware acceleration.

Does anyone have any ideas other than install WinXP? Don't bother
suggesting reinstalling the nVidia drivers as that is not the problem. The
nVidia driver is installed in the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\OpenGLdrivers
RIVATNT nvopengl.dll

By rights, the system should be working but is not. I can't believe my
system is unique so would those of you who have experienced this problem
please report your successes or failures.

A complete reinstall of Win98SE and NV drivers will almost certainly
clear up your problem. If you've installed all driver versions from 44.xx
to 81.xx, your system by now is a hopeless jumble of conflicting registry
entries....:-)

One other suggestion, Win98SE is dead and buried. Update to an OS
made this century.

"Robert Gault" wrote in message ...
I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the Ti4200
which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the nVidia
releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these nvopengl.dll drivers is
being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there is no hardware acceleration.

Does anyone have any ideas other than install WinXP? Don't bother
suggesting reinstalling the nVidia drivers as that is not the problem. The
nVidia driver is installed in the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\OpenGLdrivers
RIVATNT nvopengl.dll

By rights, the system should be working but is not. I can't believe my
system is unique so would those of you who have experienced this problem
please report your successes or failures.

Mark M wrote:
A complete reinstall of Win98SE and NV drivers will almost certainly
clear up your problem. If you've installed all driver versions from 44.xx
to 81.xx, your system by now is a hopeless jumble of conflicting registry
entries....:-)


Not true. I know how to install nVidia drivers and there are no leftover
entries of any kind in the registry nor leftover file in the Windows\System
directory. This is a trivial concern that anyone knowledgeable about nVidia
drivers can avoid.

Robert Gault wrote:
Mark M wrote:
A complete reinstall of Win98SE and NV drivers will almost certainly
clear up your problem. If you've installed all driver versions from
44.xx
to 81.xx, your system by now is a hopeless jumble of conflicting registry
entries....:-)


Not true. I know how to install nVidia drivers and there are no leftover
entries of any kind in the registry nor leftover file in the
Windows\System directory. This is a trivial concern that anyone
knowledgeable about nVidia drivers can avoid.

I generally agree as an expert myself, but every once in a while I've
had to resort to DriverCleaner or had a WHQL driver stuck in the Windows
driver cache. One thing to note about 8x.xx however; NVIDIA changed
some internal code handling communications over the AgP bus and
signaling. If your chipset drivers are out of date (or no longer
supported), it could result in low level incompatibilities.

Worst case scenario, revert to 71.84 or some 7x.xx version working for
98. I never paid attention to 9x releases, so best of luck.

"Robert Gault" wrote in message ...
Mark M wrote:
A complete reinstall of Win98SE and NV drivers will almost certainly
clear up your problem. If you've installed all driver versions from 44.xx
to 81.xx, your system by now is a hopeless jumble of conflicting registry
entries....:-)


Not true. I know how to install nVidia drivers and there are no leftover
entries of any kind in the registry nor leftover file in the Windows\System
directory. This is a trivial concern that anyone knowledgeable about nVidia
drivers can avoid.

Natural selection hard at work.

What a sucker.

In article ,
Robert Gault says...
I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the Ti4200
which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the nVidia
releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these nvopengl.dll drivers is
being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there is no hardware acceleration.

Are you sure that the installer doesn't replace the Microsoft
opengl32.dll file with a nVidia one? Have you checked the file info to
see who the vendor is for it?


--
Conor,

Same ****, different day.

Conor wrote:
In article ,
Robert Gault says...

I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the Ti4200
which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the nVidia
releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these nvopengl.dll drivers is
being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there is no hardware acceleration.


Are you sure that the installer doesn't replace the Microsoft
opengl32.dll file with a nVidia one? Have you checked the file info to
see who the vendor is for it?



That is not what nVidia does. Microsoft made provisions for card drivers
listed as ICDs to be called from the Microsoft opengl32.dll. If you look at
the properties of the nvopengl.dll file, you will see it is NVIDIA
Compatible OpenGL ICD. nVidia places the name of the nvopengl.dll in a
registry entry and opengl32.dll is supposed to find the driver entry and
use it. That is not happening on my system.

On 4/15/2006 5:17 AM Robert Gault brightened our day with:
Conor wrote:
In article ,
Robert Gault says...

I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the
Ti4200 which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the
nVidia releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these
nvopengl.dll drivers is being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there
is no hardware acceleration.


Are you sure that the installer doesn't replace the Microsoft
opengl32.dll file with a nVidia one? Have you checked the file info
to see who the vendor is for it?



That is not what nVidia does. Microsoft made provisions for card
drivers listed as ICDs to be called from the Microsoft opengl32.dll.
If you look at the properties of the nvopengl.dll file, you will see
it is NVIDIA Compatible OpenGL ICD. nVidia places the name of the
nvopengl.dll in a registry entry and opengl32.dll is supposed to find
the driver entry and use it. That is not happening on my system.
What software is it that isn't working?

--
Cthulhu for President in 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

"Robert Gault" wrote in message ...
Conor wrote:
In article ,
Robert Gault says...

I am trying to run opengl apps on a Win98SE system. The card is the Ti4200
which does support opengl. The drivers tested were all of the nVidia
releases from 44.03 up through 81.98. None of these nvopengl.dll drivers is
being seen by the OS (opengl32.dll) so there is no hardware acceleration.


Are you sure that the installer doesn't replace the Microsoft
opengl32.dll file with a nVidia one? Have you checked the file info to
see who the vendor is for it?



That is not what nVidia does. Microsoft made provisions for card drivers
listed as ICDs to be called from the Microsoft opengl32.dll. If you look at
the properties of the nvopengl.dll file, you will see it is NVIDIA
Compatible OpenGL ICD. nVidia places the name of the nvopengl.dll in a
registry entry and opengl32.dll is supposed to find the driver entry and
use it. That is not happening on my system.

First step to solving your problem is to stop being an arrogant asshole
who thinks he knows everything, and jumps on people who try to help
him. Second step is to upgrade to an OS that was made this century.
Or if that isn't possible, reformat/reinstall your freaking Win98SE.
Problem solved.

In article ,
Robert Gault says...


That is not what nVidia does. Microsoft made provisions for card drivers
listed as ICDs to be called from the Microsoft opengl32.dll. If you look at
the properties of the nvopengl.dll file, you will see it is NVIDIA
Compatible OpenGL ICD. nVidia places the name of the nvopengl.dll in a
registry entry and opengl32.dll is supposed to find the driver entry and
use it. That is not happening on my system.

Fair enough. The last time I was into anything like that, a vendor
provided application specific driver had to be placed in a specific
folder.

--
Conor,

Same ****, different day.