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blank cartridges for canon
I just got my blanks in for my I850 from inkjetgoodies.com
all i can say is WOW... the exit port clip is very nice. It comes with rubber plugs that fit snuggly and easily removed for refilling. This is a very nice , high quality blank. I am really amazed. No tape, no glue, no screws, no ball seals, just a small rubber cork to fit the molded fill hole. No tape to hold the exit port seal either. This has molded dimples that the clip seal locks in to. Top notch stuff. Refilling sure is a breeze now and no mess from a lose exit cap. These are worth every penny. I am going to order another set and dump my canon cartridges when they run dry. Im not fooling with rubber bands or tape for that exit port. These clip locking seals are great. |
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Those cartridges sound like a good alternative to using one of our do it
yourself methods. The price isn't bad either, but it really isn't much of a problem using rubber bands or tape. They're definately an improvement on hot glue or set screws. I'm not concerned about what the tanks look like. I only care about the printed output. One thing to be aware of when refilling is that your ink monitor will not show a full cartridge once you have done a refill unless the low ink warning has come on. That's the only time the ink monitor will be reset and then it's only for the one tank that generated the low ink warning. If you refill before the tanks are empty which is what most users do, especially if you keep two sets of tanks and swap all at the same time, then the monitor won't reset to full. This isn't a problem as the only real use for the monitor is to show when the ink is running low. As Taliesyn noted there is a prism in the bottom of the tank which a light source shines through. If there is enough ink in the tank to block the light then the warning, and the resulting reset, will not appear. If having the ink monitor reset to full is something you want to do, the process of resetting is simple. Take one of the old cartridges you no longer use, remove as much of the sponge material from around the outlet hole as possible. If desired, you could cut the top off enough to get all the sponge out. Rinse the cartridge to remove any ink that could cause cross contamination of colors. Prior to installing the freshly refilled tank, put the empty tank in and close the cover. At that point the sensor will detect an out of ink condition. Install the refilled tank and the monitor will now show full. -- Ron Cohen "ray" wrote in message news I just got my blanks in for my I850 from inkjetgoodies.com all i can say is WOW... the exit port clip is very nice. It comes with rubber plugs that fit snuggly and easily removed for refilling. This is a very nice , high quality blank. I am really amazed. No tape, no glue, no screws, no ball seals, just a small rubber cork to fit the molded fill hole. No tape to hold the exit port seal either. This has molded dimples that the clip seal locks in to. Top notch stuff. Refilling sure is a breeze now and no mess from a lose exit cap. These are worth every penny. I am going to order another set and dump my canon cartridges when they run dry. Im not fooling with rubber bands or tape for that exit port. These clip locking seals are great. |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:31:52 GMT, "Ron Cohen"
wrote: Those cartridges sound like a good alternative to using one of our do it yourself methods. The price isn't bad either, but it really isn't much of a problem using rubber bands or tape. They're definately an improvement on hot glue or set screws. I'm not concerned about what the tanks look like. I only care about the printed output. One thing to be aware of when refilling is that your ink monitor will not show a full cartridge once you have done a refill unless the low ink warning has come on. That's the only time the ink monitor will be reset and then it's only for the one tank that generated the low ink warning. If you refill before the tanks are empty which is what most users do, especially if you keep two sets of tanks and swap all at the same time, then the monitor won't reset to full. This isn't a problem as the only real use for the monitor is to show when the ink is running low. As Taliesyn noted there is a prism in the bottom of the tank which a light source shines through. If there is enough ink in the tank to block the light then the warning, and the resulting reset, will not appear. If having the ink monitor reset to full is something you want to do, the process of resetting is simple. Take one of the old cartridges you no longer use, remove as much of the sponge material from around the outlet hole as possible. If desired, you could cut the top off enough to get all the sponge out. Rinse the cartridge to remove any ink that could cause cross contamination of colors. Prior to installing the freshly refilled tank, put the empty tank in and close the cover. At that point the sensor will detect an out of ink condition. Install the refilled tank and the monitor will now show full. -- Ron Cohen The blanks do have the prism at the bottom. They are identical to original canon cartridges except they have molded fill holes, not drilled or removed ball plugs. The exit port has molded dimples to allow the cap to latch which is very nice. I fooled with the rubber band method and made a mess with one cap as it was not seated just right . The cap was original to the cartridge as I mark each cap with the proper color. As far as the ink monitor, that is no concern and yes the blanks do show low ink when I put one in to test it. I will be refilling well before the low ink monitor comes on as well. As far as quality of the output, I see no leaks and use formula labs ink. I can easily read text in all colors down to 2 font. 1 font is about 50 percent readable. (standard mode) That would be the output of the heads and ink of course but the cartridge is very high quality and easier to deal with. Oh the plugs, the plugs are quite short and moulded to fit the fill hole percisely. There is no danger of inserting it into the tank as the end of the fill hole is rounded and slighly tapered as the plug. It inserts easily with finger pressure and removed easily with a small object such as a jewlers screwdriver. I definately recommend this blank set just for ease of use and guaranteed no mess. |
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"ray" wrote in message news On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:31:52 GMT, "Ron Cohen" wrote: Those cartridges sound like a good alternative to using one of our do it yourself methods. The price isn't bad either, but it really isn't much of a problem using rubber bands or tape. They're definately an improvement on hot glue or set screws. Sounds like a good copy of the JetTec design at www.inkylink.co.uk which comes filled of course :-) the same criteria applies as with the BCI-6 in that the JetTec cartridge has an appreciably larger ink side size containing 50% more ink, with the sponge reservoir feeder side being smaller than the Canon design The Black is a Hi-Spec dense black for improved text printing. They are also easier to fill than Canon and other design because the ink snap off protection snaps back on again to seal the delivery system until you load it into the printer. |
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Ron Cohen wrote:
Those cartridges sound like a good alternative to using one of our do it yourself methods. The price isn't bad either, but it really isn't much of a problem using rubber bands or tape. They're definately an improvement on hot glue or set screws. I'm not concerned about what the tanks look like. I only care about the printed output. One thing to be aware of when refilling is that your ink monitor will not show a full cartridge once you have done a refill unless the low ink warning has come on. That's the only time the ink monitor will be reset and then it's only for the one tank that generated the low ink warning. In other words... when you swap a set of colors when one cartridge reads "low", the monitor automatically resets to "full" for that cartridge. The others hadn't reached "low" yet so there was nothing to reset, they will read "full" as previously. This is what happens on my i850. -Taliesyn |
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Did you read this? If you refill before the tanks are empty which is what most users do, especially if you keep two sets of tanks and swap all at the same time, then the monitor won't reset to full. This isn't a problem as the only real use for the monitor is to show when the ink is running low or this? If you want to force a reset, just insert a blank cartridge in place of the new one. In my first posting I specifically said the only real use for the monitor is to show when a tank is running low. In my follow-up posting to a specific question I replied "If you want to force a reset". I believe the operative word is 'want'. That would mean if the user so chooses to do so. Why does it bother you so much if a user wants to reset a monitor? As to why a user would want to force a reset, I have no idea. Why does one person want a Canon printer when another wants an Epson? I prefer Canons, but I'm sure those who favor Epson's can be quite persuasive in their arguments. All I was doing was pointing out something that has come up on this newsgroup several times in the past. -- Ron Cohen "Bill" wrote in message ... Ron Cohen wrote: Read my previous posting in this same thread and you'll find that's essentially what I said. I did already, hence the post. You specifically mentioned forcing a reset: Ron Cohen wrote: That's correct. If you want to force a reset, just insert a blank cartridge I'm curious to know why a reset would be needed. |
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This is getting ridiculous! I'm putting my responses inline and I hope you
will then be satisfied. -- Ron Cohen "Bill" wrote in message ... Ron Cohen wrote: Did you read this? Yes I did...see below. If you refill before the tanks are empty which is what most users do, especially if you keep two sets of tanks and swap all at the same time, then the monitor won't reset to full. This isn't a problem as the only real use for the monitor is to show when the ink is running low or this? If you want to force a reset, just insert a blank cartridge in place of the new one. What you've said seems to be an oxymoron. That isn't an oxymoron. I clearly stated that the monitor will not reset to full when a replacement or refilled cartridge is installed and that it isn't a problem - but if someone does want to reset the monitor to reflect the status of the newly installed cartridge it can be done. All a user would be doing is tricking the printer into thinking it was out of ink so that the status monitor would reset to full when the refilled cartridge in put in. How can you reset something that hasn't yet been triggered? If the ink tank is replaced before the reservoir is empty, hence not triggering a low ink warning, then there is nothing to reset - the monitor continues to show the tanks as being "full". Conversely, if the reservoir in the tank runs empty, triggering a low ink warning, replacing or refilling it will reset the status monitor to show a full ink tank. I think this is where you may be confused. While the status monitor doesn't actually show the exact amount of ink used, the display can indicate partially full after some amount of printing - although it is an inaccurate reading. On some Canon models such as the s820 the display drops in increments, whereas on others like the i850 it seems to hold on to the full reading much longer and then drops suddenly. The display will not reset to full unless the low ink warning has appeared. Installing a full cartridge will still result in a display of partially empty. As I said earlier, this isn't a problem since the only real concern is when the low warning comes on which means put more ink in now or burn out a printhead. If you are installing new or refilled cartridges when the the low warning appears, then this whole discussion is pointless. However, lots of users who refill replace all the tanks at one time. Some of them want the monitor to be reset although I see no reason in doing so. But that's the nice part about living in the USA or Canada. People are free to make their own decisions. In my first posting I specifically said the only real use for the monitor is to show when a tank is running low. I completely agree with that... In my follow-up posting to a specific question I replied "If you want to force a reset". I believe the operative word is 'want'. That would mean if the user so chooses to do so. But I'm asking specifically WHY a user would want or need to "force a reset" of something that has not yet occured...since the monitor has not yet been triggered to show a low ink warning? How am I supposed to know? This discussion isn't about when a low ink warning has popped up. It's about a partially empty indication when a refill is installed but without a low ink warning. If the low ink warning has appeared, then reinstalling a new or refilled tank will reset the monitor to full. Hint: next time you refill, only put in about 1/3 the amount of ink needed to fill the reservoir. If you do so, the indicator will still show full, not 2/3 empty. For example, I always run low on yellow ink before cyan or magenta, and replacing or refilling the tank resets the monitor. However, the other two have never given a low warning and have consistently shown as full all the time, even though I've replaced or refilled them several times. Were they low enough to have triggered a warning? If so, you may have a problem with the light sensor. Are you suggesting there is some sort of page counter in the Canon printers that we're not aware of that will affect printing? I don't know of any software counter Canon uses for the ink monitor to indicate partially used. However, since the status monitor drops in increments, there must be something in use to give an approximation of ink usage. The only accurate and/or positive indicator is the low ink warning which is triggered by reflected light through the prism in the bottom of the tank. FWIW, I had a Lexmark 5700 several years ago which used ink at a rapid pace and at extremelly high $$$. I found the .ini file where the ink usage was actually updated based on how many droplets of ink were ejected. I created an Excell spreadsheet to convert this usage to the number of CC's per color to refill. It was a totally useless exercise since my refills usually didn't live very long after refilling. I've not seen any file comparable to that for the Canon models. Perhaps I'm missing something, perhaps I'm a moron or my IQ is lower than yours, but some parts of what you've said doesn't make sense. Sounds a little defensive on your part, but I think you are trying to read more into this than necessary. The whole point is that if a user wants to, for reasons known only to them, they can reset the status monitor. A user is free to reset or not reset. That is their choice - not mine or yours. Why should it make any difference? It sounds to me like you are opposed to someone doing a reset. I think it's a non-issue. Perhaps a better mechanism for Canon to use would be an idiot light mechanism similar to warning lights on autos. Nothing is shown unless the tanks are about to run out of ink. Some drivers prefer gauges, while others rely on warning lights. Maybe that's why my Mazda has both - to prevent useless newsgroup discussions such as this. Please don't try to read something else into the comparison of a gas gauge to the ink status monitor. The comment is only made for purposes of illustration since the status monitor isn't the same, nor does it have any form of accuracy as would an automotive gauge. If you go back and check old newsgroup postings, you can find a few trying to make that comparison. |
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