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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
Does anyone have a definitive figure for the maximum memory installable
on the Gateway Essential 800? Some memory sellers reckon it's 256Mb (2x128MB) and others 512Mb (2x256Mb). I can't find the original manual at the moment - any ideas? Rob |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
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Rob Chambers typed on Wed, 26 May 2010 00:37:12 +0200: Does anyone have a definitive figure for the maximum memory installable on the Gateway Essential 800? Some memory sellers reckon it's 256Mb (2x128MB) and others 512Mb (2x256Mb). I can't find the original manual at the moment - any ideas? Rob Nobody answered you on this yet Rob? Well I dunno either. But my experience is the one with the higher value is generally correct. The one with the lower value is what the manufacture claims is the max. Which can be wrong a good number of times. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
On 15/06/10 00:25, BillW50 wrote:
Nobody answered you on this yet Rob? Well I dunno either. But my experience is the one with the higher value is generally correct. The one with the lower value is what the manufacture claims is the max. Which can be wrong a good number of times. Thanks for the reply. I've tried a few different 256Mb sticks in it and none have been recognized, so I suspect the max is 2x128Mb. I wonder if Gateway made subtly different models for the home and business markets, as there seem to be both Essential 800 and 800C models around - I'm not sure what the difference is (or even if there is one) but maybe the memory limitation is what differentiates them. In any case, it runs XP SP3 fairly well, and dual boots Peppermint OS (LXDE-based Ubuntu/Mint derivative) which is not too shabby (boots Firefox in about 5 seconds) so it's not a big deal if I can't expand it any further.. Thanks again - I wasn't sure if anyone was still reading this froup - it seems to be overrun with spam these days... Rob |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
On 6/15/2010 5:31 PM, Rob Chambers wrote:
On 15/06/10 00:25, BillW50 wrote: Nobody answered you on this yet Rob? Well I dunno either. But my experience is the one with the higher value is generally correct. The one with the lower value is what the manufacture claims is the max. Which can be wrong a good number of times. Thanks for the reply. I've tried a few different 256Mb sticks in it and none have been recognized, so I suspect the max is 2x128Mb. I wonder if Gateway made subtly different models for the home and business markets, as there seem to be both Essential 800 and 800C models around - I'm not sure what the difference is (or even if there is one) but maybe the memory limitation is what differentiates them. In any case, it runs XP SP3 fairly well, and dual boots Peppermint OS (LXDE-based Ubuntu/Mint derivative) which is not too shabby (boots Firefox in about 5 seconds) so it's not a big deal if I can't expand it any further.. Thanks again - I wasn't sure if anyone was still reading this froup - it seems to be overrun with spam these days... Rob Wondered how you made out. Memory upgrades I've done have been to run Belarc Advisor to see whats there and whats open and then buy memory from Crucial. |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
On 6/15/2010 5:31 PM, Rob Chambers wrote:
On 15/06/10 00:25, BillW50 wrote: Nobody answered you on this yet Rob? Well I dunno either. But my experience is the one with the higher value is generally correct. The one with the lower value is what the manufacture claims is the max. Which can be wrong a good number of times. Thanks for the reply. I've tried a few different 256Mb sticks in it and none have been recognized, so I suspect the max is 2x128Mb. I wonder if Gateway made subtly different models for the home and business markets, as there seem to be both Essential 800 and 800C models around - I'm not sure what the difference is (or even if there is one) but maybe the memory limitation is what differentiates them. In any case, it runs XP SP3 fairly well, and dual boots Peppermint OS (LXDE-based Ubuntu/Mint derivative) which is not too shabby (boots Firefox in about 5 seconds) so it's not a big deal if I can't expand it any further.. Thanks again - I wasn't sure if anyone was still reading this froup - it seems to be overrun with spam these days... Rob The customary Intel chipsets used in late Pentium III systems were the 810 and the 815. Both CHIPSETS support a maximum of 512MB, usually 2x256MB. But there's no telling what the BIOS supports. Which motherboard is in the system i.e. what is the motherboard BIOS signature? This often gives a clue. If the motherboard is an Intel-made one, the specs on the Intel web site would be a help. Earlier Pentium IIIs often used the Intel 440BX or 440BX2 chipset, which handles up to 1GB of memory in a suitable motherboard. Intel cut back on the amount of memory supported in desktop systems to make the Xeon CPU for "workstations" look good... Ben Myers |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
On 16/06/10 03:28, Ben Myers wrote:
The customary Intel chipsets used in late Pentium III systems were the 810 and the 815. Both CHIPSETS support a maximum of 512MB, usually 2x256MB. But there's no telling what the BIOS supports. Which motherboard is in the system i.e. what is the motherboard BIOS signature? This often gives a clue. If the motherboard is an Intel-made one, the specs on the Intel web site would be a help. I've done a bit of research, and this is what I know so far - the motherboard is an MSI MS-6312 Flex ATX WH11 (WHITNEY) with an Intel 82810E chipset: http://support.gateway.com/support/manlib/cmponts/sysboard/8507333/07333.htm The BIOS is from AMI, version 0AAVIP09. Both Crucial's system scanner and their website reckon it can take 512Mb, using either part number CT353805 (scanner s/w) or CT192743 (website). http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Essential%20800&pl=Gateway&ca t=RAM The description of the board on Gateway's site says that it can take a maximum of 512Mb but that this can vary depending on the local market it's sold into (mine is from the UK). It appears that there may be newer versions of the BIOS around (the "P09" suffix seems to be an issue number) - would a BIOS upgrade enable me to access the full memory capacity, or is there more to it than that? Rob |
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On 6/19/2010 11:25 AM, Rob Chambers wrote:
On 16/06/10 03:28, Ben Myers wrote: The customary Intel chipsets used in late Pentium III systems were the 810 and the 815. Both CHIPSETS support a maximum of 512MB, usually 2x256MB. But there's no telling what the BIOS supports. Which motherboard is in the system i.e. what is the motherboard BIOS signature? This often gives a clue. If the motherboard is an Intel-made one, the specs on the Intel web site would be a help. I've done a bit of research, and this is what I know so far - the motherboard is an MSI MS-6312 Flex ATX WH11 (WHITNEY) with an Intel 82810E chipset: http://support.gateway.com/support/manlib/cmponts/sysboard/8507333/07333.htm The BIOS is from AMI, version 0AAVIP09. Both Crucial's system scanner and their website reckon it can take 512Mb, using either part number CT353805 (scanner s/w) or CT192743 (website). http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Essential%20800&pl=Gateway&ca t=RAM The description of the board on Gateway's site says that it can take a maximum of 512Mb but that this can vary depending on the local market it's sold into (mine is from the UK). It appears that there may be newer versions of the BIOS around (the "P09" suffix seems to be an issue number) - would a BIOS upgrade enable me to access the full memory capacity, or is there more to it than that? Rob A BIOS upgrade would not hurt, but, once again, there is no telling what people will do to cripple the BIOS software. The 810 chipset definitely supports 512MB, and, according to the Intel web site: "66- and 100-MHz System Bus capable." More than likely PC133 will not work. You need a pair of 256MB PC100 non-ECC SDRAMs... Ben Myers |
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Ben Myers typed on Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:33:06 -0400: A BIOS upgrade would not hurt, but, once again, there is no telling what people will do to cripple the BIOS software. The 810 chipset definitely supports 512MB, and, according to the Intel web site: "66- and 100-MHz System Bus capable." More than likely PC133 will not work. You need a pair of 256MB PC100 non-ECC SDRAMs... Ben Myers Well actually a BIOS update could hurt. As most BIOS programs nowadays won't allow you to go back to the earlier version. That assumes you have a copy of the earlier version. Here is a recent example of where a BIOS update went wrong. In , WTK typed on Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:55:36 -0500: In the comp.sys.laptops newsgroup said: Hello All, I have a Toshiba Satellite M115-S3094. I updated my BIOS and now there are problems, such as the CPU runs high and the system overheats. I want to reset my BIOS to a previous version, before this issue. How can I achieve this? Thank you for any and all assistance. BIOS manufactures seem to think the newest is always better. But like drivers and applications, newer isn't always better. There can be some real serious problems. And sometimes even if the update is okay, something can go wrong with the BIOS updating and leave your computer unbootable. I have three Gateway MX6124 laptops for example. One of them reads the CPU temperature 20 to 50 degrees F lower than it should. I didn't worry too much about it until it burned out the CPU. They are socketed, so easy to replace. All three has the same BIOS version so this shouldn't be a problem. And Gateway has an update for the BIOS. But there is a great warning not to install the update unless you are installing Vista. They all are running XP. And most BIOS software will not let you go back to an earlier version. Why they lockout earlier BIOS versions seems very stupid to me. But that is what they do nowadays. Sometimes you can find old DOS BIOS flashing software that doesn't check the version number. They usually only run under DOS (and not under Windows DOS) and are getting harder and harder to find. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 |
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"BillW50" wrote in message ... In , Ben Myers typed on Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:33:06 -0400: A BIOS upgrade would not hurt, but, once again, there is no telling what people will do to cripple the BIOS software. The 810 chipset definitely supports 512MB, and, according to the Intel web site: "66- and 100-MHz System Bus capable." More than likely PC133 will not work. You need a pair of 256MB PC100 non-ECC SDRAMs... Ben Myers Well actually a BIOS update could hurt. As most BIOS programs nowadays won't allow you to go back to the earlier version. That assumes you have a copy of the earlier version. Here is a recent example of where a BIOS update went wrong. In , WTK typed on Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:55:36 -0500: In the comp.sys.laptops newsgroup said: Hello All, I have a Toshiba Satellite M115-S3094. I updated my BIOS and now there are problems, such as the CPU runs high and the system overheats. I want to reset my BIOS to a previous version, before this issue. How can I achieve this? Thank you for any and all assistance. BIOS manufactures seem to think the newest is always better. But like drivers and applications, newer isn't always better. There can be some real serious problems. And sometimes even if the update is okay, something can go wrong with the BIOS updating and leave your computer unbootable. I have three Gateway MX6124 laptops for example. One of them reads the CPU temperature 20 to 50 degrees F lower than it should. I didn't worry too much about it until it burned out the CPU. They are socketed, so easy to replace. All three has the same BIOS version so this shouldn't be a problem. And Gateway has an update for the BIOS. But there is a great warning not to install the update unless you are installing Vista. They all are running XP. And most BIOS software will not let you go back to an earlier version. Why they lockout earlier BIOS versions seems very stupid to me. But that is what they do nowadays. Sometimes you can find old DOS BIOS flashing software that doesn't check the version number. They usually only run under DOS (and not under Windows DOS) and are getting harder and harder to find. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 I've never ran across a BIOS updater that wouldn't let me back up to the previous (or original) revision, but then, I've only owned the one Gateway notebook I have now. The BIOS flash on it went well, so I don't know if I could revert to the old one on it or not. All of the Gigabyte, Asus, and Biostar MBs I've used had a "BIOS Recovery" mode. But the method for all of them was to boot from the driver and utility CD that came with it, so if that was gone, I agree, you're pretty much hosed. In all the years I've flashed BIOS's, I've only had one bad experience (KOW). I flashed my Asus to the latest and greatest, thinking it would give better SATA functionality as it said in the revision description. My MB was the hardware revision Asus said it needed to be, so I went ahead and flashed it. Yep, you guessed it, no boot. It would get to the POST screen, then reboot. Keystrokes did nothing at all- wouldn't stop it, or go into BIOS. I tried booting from the CD and it would hang there for what seemed like forever, then get to the menu, but not any further. After numerous tries and wasting the better part of a day (I had started this late in the morning, and it was about 8 or 9PM by then), it finally booted into the BIOS recovery menu, flashed it back to the original, and all was well. After making sure everything was ok, I re-flashed to the last working revision I had before the bad one. Needless to say, I was very hesitant to do it again, but I needed it for my newer CPU. I don't know what I missed out on by not being able to use the newest revision, but then I guess I never will. I'll not try THAT one again :-) -- SC Tom |
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Max memory for Gateway Essential 800?
On 19/06/10 23:33, Ben Myers wrote:
The 810 chipset definitely supports 512MB, and, according to the Intel web site: "66- and 100-MHz System Bus capable." More than likely PC133 will not work. You need a pair of 256MB PC100 non-ECC SDRAMs... Ben Myers Won't PC133 RAM run at 100Mhz as well? Rob |
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