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Old November 4th 04, 11:16 PM
Jeremy Stanley
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First, NVIDIA gave us the GeForce "4" MX440, which was little more
than a GeForce2 Ti. And many folks got burned--"it works with my
friend's GeForce3, so why won't it work on my GF4?"

Then they introduced the strangely named MX4000, which slashed the
MX440's 128-bit memory bus in half, making it roughly equivalent to a
GeForce2 MX.

As if that weren't enough...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...164-015&depa=1

..... NVIDIA is at it again. Behold the MX4000 with the 32-bit memory
bus!

I'll bet this thing would give a TNT2 Vanta a run for its money... who
knows, maybe NVIDIA's next low-end offering will compete with the
Voodoo 1!
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Old November 4th 04, 11:43 PM
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.... NVIDIA is at it again. Behold the MX4000 with the 32-bit memory
bus!


haha thanks for the laugh bud, much needed after tuesday.

rms


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Old November 5th 04, 12:48 AM
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"rms" wrote in message
m...
.... NVIDIA is at it again. Behold the MX4000 with the 32-bit memory
bus!


haha thanks for the laugh bud, much needed after tuesday.

rms


Hum ha .... I believe it already Thursday. Awaiting for the weekend to come.


Anyway, all or any MX series / version was meant to be low end card and will
set a lower price tag for those on a tighter budget.
There are other competing chipset, lower end of MX just fill in more gap.
This MX class will help alof of office PC to do general task.

CapFusion,...


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Old November 5th 04, 01:35 AM
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Jeremy Stanley wrote:
First, NVIDIA gave us the GeForce "4" MX440, which was little more
than a GeForce2 Ti. And many folks got burned--"it works with my
friend's GeForce3, so why won't it work on my GF4?"

Then they introduced the strangely named MX4000, which slashed the
MX440's 128-bit memory bus in half, making it roughly equivalent to a
GeForce2 MX.

As if that weren't enough...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...164-015&depa=1

.... NVIDIA is at it again. Behold the MX4000 with the 32-bit memory
bus!

I'll bet this thing would give a TNT2 Vanta a run for its money... who
knows, maybe NVIDIA's next low-end offering will compete with the
Voodoo 1!


In this instance the 32-bit is most likely it's "color" depth (aka
framebuffer + stencil/alpha), not its bus.

Besides, at 32 bucks, any game you'll try running on it will likely cost
more, so don't complain. Basic 2nd generation acceleration for all on
the cheap. It's for people who only occasionally fire up a game or use
basic 3d functions (OpenGL apps like Blender, 3DSMax, etc), mostly
cheapo workstations.
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Old November 5th 04, 02:44 AM
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I'll bet this thing would give a TNT2 Vanta a run for its money... who
knows, maybe NVIDIA's next low-end offering will compete with the
Voodoo 1!


you're right. But these cards aren't designed to be better than anything
they are meant to replace the TNT2, they can't get anyone to carry a 1998
video card anymore so they slap something together to offer a product in
that low low price range. Cards like these are targeted at small business
workstations that sit in a corner somewhere and used for entering data or
something.


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Old November 5th 04, 03:10 AM
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you're right. But these cards aren't designed to be better than anything
they are meant to replace the TNT2, they can't get anyone to carry a 1998
video card anymore so they slap something together to offer a product in
that low low price range. Cards like these are targeted at small business
workstations that sit in a corner somewhere and used for entering data or
something.


Hmm... this MX4000 uses 333 MHz (effective) memory. At 32 bits wide,
this yeilds 1.3GB/sec, narrowly edging out the nearly-six-year-old TNT2
M64 (which was a budget card when it was introduced) at 1.2GB/sec.

Okay, I've used a TNT2 M64 recently, and it's still a fine card for 2D
work, so I guess NVIDIA is justified selling these cards at the $30
price point. It would be nice if they called them MX2000 to distinguish
them from the 64-bit version... but NVIDIA seems to have grown fond of
swindling users on the memory bus lately; the 5200 and 6200 cards don't
distinguish 128-bit from 64-bit versions either.

Even the 64-bit MX4000 is no screamer, though; the five year old Voodoo3
3000 sitting in my closet has the same memory bandwidth...
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Old November 5th 04, 05:23 AM
dino
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but if all your going to do is surf the net and use some basic office apps
why not?


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Old November 5th 04, 03:37 PM
Jeremy Stanley
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In this instance the 32-bit is most likely it's "color" depth (aka
framebuffer + stencil/alpha), not its bus.


No, it's the bus width. Compare the NewEgg photos of this 32-bit
card:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...164-015&depa=1

To this 64-bit card:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...180-011&depa=1

You'll notice that the 64-bit card has four RAM chips (two on each
side), while the 32-bit card has only two RAM chips and two empty
solder pads--indicating the already narrow memory bus has been cut in
half yet again. The net result is probably the slowest card to ever
bear the GeForce name (okay, maybe it would edge out a GF2 MX200;
certainly not an MX400 though).
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Old November 6th 04, 01:52 AM
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At $32, it is nice competition against Intel's integrated graphics which,
for the record, may actually be faster (Quake III at 1024x768x16 zooms by at
40 fps on my school's PCs).

Hey, at least nVidia didn't label it as a Geforce 6100...

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Jeremy Stanley" wrote in message
om...
First, NVIDIA gave us the GeForce "4" MX440, which was little more
than a GeForce2 Ti. And many folks got burned--"it works with my
friend's GeForce3, so why won't it work on my GF4?"

Then they introduced the strangely named MX4000, which slashed the
MX440's 128-bit memory bus in half, making it roughly equivalent to a
GeForce2 MX.

As if that weren't enough...


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...164-015&depa=1

.... NVIDIA is at it again. Behold the MX4000 with the 32-bit memory
bus!

I'll bet this thing would give a TNT2 Vanta a run for its money... who
knows, maybe NVIDIA's next low-end offering will compete with the
Voodoo 1!



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Old November 6th 04, 01:54 AM
First of One
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In addition, you get a nice NewEgg watch, a $10 value! ;-)

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Predator" wrote in message
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you're right. But these cards aren't designed to be better than anything
they are meant to replace the TNT2, they can't get anyone to carry a 1998
video card anymore so they slap something together to offer a product in
that low low price range. Cards like these are targeted at small business
workstations that sit in a corner somewhere and used for entering data or
something.




 




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