Ti4200 broken?

Pull the card and look for swollen capacitors. It sounds like a capacitor
is leaking.
If this card was purchased a year to two years ago it is likely that bad
capacitors were unknowingly put on the card as there was a bad batch
produced from one of the major manufactures of capacitors in Taiwan about
this time. We had a Gainward TI4200 which was RMA'ed as a result of this
problem.

"ken hudson" wrote in message
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Take a look at my screen shot. I had a TI 4200. It created these
distortions
only in DX games when hot.
I finally had to buy a FX5600 Ultra. I think your GPU is fried.



"reg" wrote in message
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I have a Ti4200 card which seems to have a major problem. It works fine
when
displaying the desktop, but whenever it is called upon to display 3d
(games)
the display either freezes immediately or sections of the graphics are
not
displayed, with funny stripes where textures should be.

I have run DXdiag which reports no problem, reinstalled my Nvidia
drivers,
reinstalled Direct X 9.0b and reinstalled my FPS games, all with no
luck.
I
have installed the Nvidia drivers which were rock solid previously, to
no
avail.

I have physically reinstalled the graphics card and checked all my
drivers
for errors, again with no luck. When I run 3DMark 2001 I either get no
display, or again immediately frozen graphics with corruption.

Is there any test I can do to find out if my card has bitten the dust?
Any
benchmarking or software that will test my graphics card and tell me if
there are problems? I don't want to buy a new card to find I have the
same
problems, but I have run out of solutions.

Is it possible for my desktop and day to day applications to display
correctly, even when my card has turned up its toes for games playing?

I have just run 3DMark right through and get the following results:-

1.Car drive - freezes or corrupted graphics
2.Dragon - freezes or corrupted graphics, apart from slow pan of the
city
which is smooth.
3. Lobby - both freeze or miss graphics, but sideways running works
4.Nature - freezes or missing graphics
5.fill rate - single texturing - works
6.fill rate - multi texturing - works
7.High polygon count - works
8.High polygon count (8 lights) - works
9.Environment bump mapping - works
10.DOT 3 bump mapping - freezes
11.Vertex shader - works
12.Pixel shader - works
13.Advanced pixel shader - freezes
14.Point sprites - works

I get a 3DMark of 799 instead of my usual 7100. What I am asking is, is
it
possible for a card to produce these results, yet still be physically
damaged, or am I still trying to locate a software fault?

Machine specs - AMD Duron 1.3, 1GB SDRAM, QDI Mobo K7V8363 Kinetiz 7B,
20GB
& 40gb HD, PNY GeForce 4 Ti4200. Windows XP Home Edition 2002 & SP 1,
Direct
X 9.0b, Nvidia 53.03

Many thanks

I had the same problem with my PNY Ti4200 ultra 64mb and I sent it back to
PNY and they replaced it with a Gforce FX 5600 ultra 128mb. I am still
having the same problems as you with the 3D Games only. XP works fine no
problems. I have emailed tech support and am waiting for a reply.


"reg" wrote in message
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I have a Ti4200 card which seems to have a major problem. It works fine
when
displaying the desktop, but whenever it is called upon to display 3d
(games)
the display either freezes immediately or sections of the graphics are not
displayed, with funny stripes where textures should be.

I have run DXdiag which reports no problem, reinstalled my Nvidia drivers,
reinstalled Direct X 9.0b and reinstalled my FPS games, all with no luck.
I
have installed the Nvidia drivers which were rock solid previously, to no
avail.

I have physically reinstalled the graphics card and checked all my drivers
for errors, again with no luck. When I run 3DMark 2001 I either get no
display, or again immediately frozen graphics with corruption.

Is there any test I can do to find out if my card has bitten the dust? Any
benchmarking or software that will test my graphics card and tell me if
there are problems? I don't want to buy a new card to find I have the same
problems, but I have run out of solutions.

Is it possible for my desktop and day to day applications to display
correctly, even when my card has turned up its toes for games playing?

I have just run 3DMark right through and get the following results:-

1.Car drive - freezes or corrupted graphics
2.Dragon - freezes or corrupted graphics, apart from slow pan of the city
which is smooth.
3. Lobby - both freeze or miss graphics, but sideways running works
4.Nature - freezes or missing graphics
5.fill rate - single texturing - works
6.fill rate - multi texturing - works
7.High polygon count - works
8.High polygon count (8 lights) - works
9.Environment bump mapping - works
10.DOT 3 bump mapping - freezes
11.Vertex shader - works
12.Pixel shader - works
13.Advanced pixel shader - freezes
14.Point sprites - works

I get a 3DMark of 799 instead of my usual 7100. What I am asking is, is it
possible for a card to produce these results, yet still be physically
damaged, or am I still trying to locate a software fault?

Machine specs - AMD Duron 1.3, 1GB SDRAM, QDI Mobo K7V8363 Kinetiz 7B,
20GB
& 40gb HD, PNY GeForce 4 Ti4200. Windows XP Home Edition 2002 & SP 1,
Direct
X 9.0b, Nvidia 53.03

Many thanks

"reg" wrote in message
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I have a Ti4200 card which seems to have a major problem. It works fine
when.... snip

Hi reg, is its fan still spinning?
hth
regards
Eddy


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BTW: What improvments should be in the 53.04 drivers, and why are
they unstable with the older 4200 card (should they be ?) ?

No they work fine with older video cards, but you will lose performance. The
newest drivers seem to work best with the newest cards. I run the 44.03's with
my 4200 and they seem to be the best.

"Fast Eddy" wrote in message
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"reg" wrote in message
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I have a Ti4200 card which seems to have a major problem. It works fine
when.... snip

Hi reg, is its fan still spinning?
hth
regards
Eddy
Thanks for all the replies - the fan is still spinning. I have checked for
swollen capacitors but they look ok to me.
I guess the card has turned up its toes - I tried reinstalling the older
drivers last night but they made no difference (

Reg

What about re-installing the motherboards chipset drivers and/or DirectX?

"PRIVATE1964" wrote in message
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What about re-installing the motherboards chipset drivers and/or
DirectX?

Thanks - tried that this morning with no luck. I used the new VIA drivers
which made no difference. I am fast thinking the card has had it (

Reg

So are you saying that I shouldn't be running the 53.03's on
my Ti4200? They run fine for me but if there is a
performance decrease then I think I would like to downgrade
my drivers. A difference of 2-5 fps isn't going to make me
change them though.

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"PRIVATE1964" wrote in message
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|
| BTW: What improvments should be in the 53.04 drivers,
and why are
| they unstable with the older 4200 card (should they
be ?) ?
|
| No they work fine with older video cards, but you will
lose performance. The
| newest drivers seem to work best with the newest cards. I
run the 44.03's with
| my 4200 and they seem to be the best.

So are you saying that I shouldn't be running the 53.03's on
my Ti4200? They run fine for me but if there is a
performance decrease then I think I would like to downgrade
my drivers. A difference of 2-5 fps isn't going to make me
change them though.

With my overclocked Albatron 4200. I did quite a bit of testing with newer
drivers compared to older drivers. I gain around 1000 points in 3Dmark 2001 and
around 200 points in 3Dmark 2003 running the 44.03's compared to the newer
drivers. I see no reason to use the newer drivers unless you need certain bug
fixes that are in them for specific games you might own.
I think any drivers close in number to the 44.03's are good for the 4200, but I
stick with the 44.03's because I have not had a single problem with them.

Thanks - tried that this morning with no luck. I used the new VIA drivers
which made no difference. I am fast thinking the card has had it (

Reg

Well I would try to rule out one thing at a time. If you have another AGP
graphic card try it to see if it has any problems in the slot. Even if its an
older card. Run 3Dmark with it to check for problems. You can set a restore
point in Windows XP, before trying a different card so it's easier to go back
to the card your using. If another card works fine. With the way you described
how it ran 3DMark that would lead me to believe it's probably bad. Running just
windows the card doesn't really use all that much video memory so it might run
that fine. The GPU is also not being stressed running 2D like it is running 3D.