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  #31  
Old January 18th 04, 12:47 AM
DaveL
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"Mark A" wrote in message
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So you are saying it's perfectly ok to use a picture of a different

card
than what you are selling and to also include a ti500 moniker to go

with
it?

The item was purchased from a seller with 1 positive feedback (not even

sure
if that feedback was left by a buyer). What do you expect?


Uh... common decency?

We all, at one time, had to have only one positive feedback. Does that mean
that we were all scammers at that time?

Dave

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Old January 18th 04, 03:07 AM
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Well you didn't read it... it's an auction; like a market, they'll do
anythin to sell some people; read next time


No no no noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It doesn't matter what it is, but
at a market you can hold the item in your hand and know what your gonna get.
This is suppose to be legit. It's an auction for what is represented by the
seller which in this case is deceptive. Maybe you should read the ad because it
really doesn't say very much. It's totally deceptive because of the pictures
and no where does it say the pictures are for display purposes only or
something to that effect.
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Old January 18th 04, 03:08 AM
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Uh... common decency?

We all, at one time, had to have only one positive feedback. Does that mean
that we were all scammers at that time?

Dave


Don't bother feeding the trolls. They don't understand anything.

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Old January 18th 04, 04:51 AM
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Thank you. Your last sentence says it all.

Dave


"PRIVATE1964" wrote in message
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Well you didn't read it... it's an auction; like a market, they'll do
anythin to sell some people; read next time


No no no noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It doesn't matter what it

is, but
at a market you can hold the item in your hand and know what your gonna

get.
This is suppose to be legit. It's an auction for what is represented by

the
seller which in this case is deceptive. Maybe you should read the ad

because it
really doesn't say very much. It's totally deceptive because of the

pictures
and no where does it say the pictures are for display purposes only or
something to that effect.


  #35  
Old January 18th 04, 07:42 AM
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The item was purchased from a seller with 1 positive feedback (not even
sure
if that feedback was left by a buyer). What do you expect?


Uh... common decency?

We all, at one time, had to have only one positive feedback. Does that

mean
that we were all scammers at that time?

Dave

Basically it comes down to your own greed. The item went for a lower than
normal price because most people will not buy from someone without a proven
track record. You have bought something from a reputable seller, or bought
something new, but tried to cut corners. I am not defending the seller, but
please quit complaining about your stupid and greedy purchase on ebay.


  #36  
Old January 18th 04, 11:47 AM
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:40:28 GMT, "John Fraser"
wrote:

Good morning Dave;

"DaveL" wrote in message
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So you are saying it's perfectly ok to use a picture of a different card
than what you are selling and to also include a ti500 moniker to go with

it?

Dave


It's a common advertising trick to show the deluxe model, yet sell
several versions which may only vaguely resemble what is pictured. It's
legal as long as there is a disclaimer to the effect that the picture may
not represent what you actually receive.

If you legitimally feel you were taken for a ride and can provide a
sound reason as to why, leave a complaint and it's up to the vendor to
explain what you received was no less than what was advertised.

If, in the long run you feel that what you received was still a bargain,
leave a complaint about the faulty fan and enjoy the product. It's your
call.

I recently read of a story about a pilot who purchased a used Piper
Baron 58 for $100K dollars. The buyer discovered that the recent safety
certification was a joke when he arrived home. After spending $13K to fix
it to flying status, spending $8K on legal bills, getting reimbursed $10K by
the vendor, nine months later the FAA decided to suspend his pilot's license
because he flew a plane that wasn't certified for safe flight.


Can't forget the recent guy who bought an ADVERTISED defective Ti4400
card on ebay... and was AMAZED and upset that it MAY NOT WORK.. and it
didnt.

Subject was misrepresented, I think.


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When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

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Old January 18th 04, 11:52 AM
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:40:09 -0800, "DaveL"
wrote:

Ebay is like a bad addiction. I know I should not do it but something keeps
bringing me back to it. I have been burned before. I once received a dead


Thats why I dont gamble.

The bad fan on this GF3 is so bad I don't see how the seller could have
missed it. When I first plugged it in and fired it up, it turned a few
times very slowly, made a terrible sound and quit turning. I quickly shut
down, pulled the card, disassemble the fan and noticed the bearing was
completely rusted. The seller must live in a very humid climate and this
card is old and sat for a while.

And about the "sorry wrong image", I think he should have noticed it doesn't
look much like his card.

BTW, This guy never responded to either of my emails. I guess I'll have to
live with this and give him negative feedback. I know he will give me
negative feedback in response. That's what I don't like about this feedback
thing. I get a bad deal, leave negative feedback and then he gives me
negative feedback.


Heres a bit of a solution.

Are you allowed to give another BAD feedback to the first? In
response?

Do the following.

1 - take screen shot of your bid, showing YOU "WON" - amount paid.
Save it... JPG image.

2 - use a camera (I assume you have a digital camera) and take a shot
of your GF3 card.

3 - Setup bull**** webspace for things like this - a website/email
address you dont care about (www.geocities.com - part of Yahoo).

4 upload the 2 images... Upload tech stats explaining why they are
different - then put out your BAD defect message. So if someone does
a trace of YOU to HIM, it will have a link to your site.

Take about 20~30 minutes to do it...



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Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!
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Old January 18th 04, 03:55 PM
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In this news forum,
Mark A exclaimed to the world in his special way:


Basically it comes down to your own greed. The item went for a lower
than normal price because most people will not buy from someone
without a proven track record. You have bought something from a
reputable seller, or bought something new, but tried to cut corners.
I am not defending the seller, but please quit complaining about your
stupid and greedy purchase on ebay.


__________________________________________________ _____

What an outrageous and and pathetic thing to state. It has nothing to do
with greed or stupidity. The whole Ebay point is for sellers to sell their
wares obtaining the best price they can get for their chosen item. The more
demand for that item the more buyers are willing to bid. Its also about
buyers picking up good deals for goods they seek. Greed and stupidity does
not enter into it and your comments are not justified.

Whilst it may be true that some people will only buy from sellers with lots
of positive feedback, it doesn't include everyone. As has already been
mentioned by myself and others, sellers have to start somewhere and the
amount of positive feedback one has is not a reflection on the honesty and
integrity of that person, although I admit it helps. I've had friends
screwed over buy sellers with masses amounts of positive feedback, people
thought to be reputable. And unless someone is a full-time Ebay seller you
cannot ascertain that someone is a reputable seller with a proven track
record (as you put it) because the private individual sellers that sell
items such as graphics cards only do so when they upgrade or get a new PC
and sell the components of the old one.

When I sold my first item on Ebay (a digital camera) for which I got £300 I
had no feedback at all yet someone still bought it and there was masses of
bidding for it. It was advertised correctly, shipped on time and was the
item as fully described. That was my first positive feedback. My next item
was, ironically, a graphics card because I upgraded. This resulted in
positive feedback too.

I certainly would not describe my buyers as greedy, stupid, or trying to cut
corners and I'd expect them to complain if they were not happy about my
service. The OP was asking for advice on what to do. Your advice is way off
mark....

~Carl


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Old January 18th 04, 07:54 PM
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"Carl" wrote in message
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What an outrageous and and pathetic thing to state. It has nothing to do
with greed or stupidity. The whole Ebay point is for sellers to sell

their
wares obtaining the best price they can get for their chosen item. The

more
demand for that item the more buyers are willing to bid. Its also about
buyers picking up good deals for goods they seek. Greed and stupidity

does
not enter into it and your comments are not justified.

Whilst it may be true that some people will only buy from sellers with

lots
of positive feedback, it doesn't include everyone. As has already been
mentioned by myself and others, sellers have to start somewhere and the
amount of positive feedback one has is not a reflection on the honesty and
integrity of that person, although I admit it helps. I've had friends
screwed over buy sellers with masses amounts of positive feedback, people
thought to be reputable. And unless someone is a full-time Ebay seller

you
cannot ascertain that someone is a reputable seller with a proven track
record (as you put it) because the private individual sellers that sell
items such as graphics cards only do so when they upgrade or get a new PC
and sell the components of the old one.

When I sold my first item on Ebay (a digital camera) for which I got £300

I
had no feedback at all yet someone still bought it and there was masses of
bidding for it. It was advertised correctly, shipped on time and was the
item as fully described. That was my first positive feedback. My next

item
was, ironically, a graphics card because I upgraded. This resulted in
positive feedback too.

I certainly would not describe my buyers as greedy, stupid, or trying to

cut
corners and I'd expect them to complain if they were not happy about my
service. The OP was asking for advice on what to do. Your advice is way

off
mark....

~Carl

The original poster was told what to do (contact the seller and discuss the
problem), but instead he spent money trying to fix the problem himself.

Not all persons who don't have feedback are dishonest or incompetent (as you
stated), but one is definitely taking a risk when buying from a seller that
does not have much feedback. We are talking about used items here, and items
from sellers with little or poor feedback almost always sell for less money
on ebay. Given the number of used video card sales on ebay, there are plenty
of other options from sellers who are known to be reputable.

I think one has to be extra careful to buy a used video card, because a lot
of times the reason they are sold is due a problem such as a noisy fan, over
intermittent problems. Not all of them, but many of them.

Any time one purchases used items, the saying is especially true "caveat
emptor."


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Old January 18th 04, 09:28 PM
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Basically it comes down to your own greed. The item went for a lower than
normal price because most people will not buy from someone without a proven
track record. You have bought something from a reputable seller, or bought
something new, but tried to cut corners. I am not defending the seller, but
please quit complaining about your stupid and greedy purchase on ebay.



Your an idiot !!
You think because someone buys an item that is cheaper then normal they are
being greedy? Oh so the next time you buy a video card and there are 2 brands,
but one is cheeper and you buy that one your being greedy?
What If the cheeper brand you buy craps out your just gonna say "I was greedy I
deserve it"
"Go crawl back under your rock troll.....idiot!"

 




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