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Old November 30th 03, 04:25 PM
Ook
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Default 128MB or 256MB card?

Can some tell me what the difference is, other then the obvious doubling of
memory? In the real world, what difference will it make? What difference
will I notice?


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Old November 30th 03, 05:26 PM
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"Ook" wrote in message
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Can some tell me what the difference is, other then the obvious doubling

of
memory? In the real world, what difference will it make? What difference
will I notice?


You will notice the price difference.

I doubt that games nowadays push the limit of 128MB cards. When, eventually,
256MB will be needed, you will probably need a new GPU as well.


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Old November 30th 03, 05:42 PM
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The difference is actually negligible unless you are running CAD or
rendering some huge graphic pictures such as in Adobe Photoshop. So let's
say you were rendering a 15 meg painting you rendered with photoshop with a
256 meg card compared to a 128 meg card then you'll probably save anywhere
from 15 to 30 seconds, and some people report saving only 10 seconds. The
big difference might be when Windows 64 bit comes out (it's in beta now)
next quarter for the Athlon 64. Provided of course the end user application
is also 64 bit then it should make more of a difference than now. If all
you're doing is gaming however then 128 meg cards are just fine for this
purpose and should be only fractionally slower than a 256 meg card provided
the graphics chip is nearly identical.

regards

B
"Ook" wrote in message
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Can some tell me what the difference is, other then the obvious doubling

of
memory? In the real world, what difference will it make? What difference
will I notice?




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Old November 30th 03, 05:55 PM
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"B" wrote in message
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The difference is actually negligible unless you are running CAD or
rendering some huge graphic pictures such as in Adobe Photoshop. So let's
say you were rendering a 15 meg painting you rendered with photoshop with

a
256 meg card compared to a 128 meg card then you'll probably save anywhere
from 15 to 30 seconds, and some people report saving only 10 seconds.


I thought that system RAM was the most crucial part for working with
Photoshop, but I must admit I'm not really into it.


The
big difference might be when Windows 64 bit comes out (it's in beta now)
next quarter for the Athlon 64. Provided of course the end user

application
is also 64 bit then it should make more of a difference than now.


This I cannot understand. 64-bit computing is supposed to break the 4GB
barrier for system RAM (PAE not taken into consideration), and I think 4GB
should be enough for most people. How does this come into play regarding
videoram?


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Old November 30th 03, 06:00 PM
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:41 +0100, "Egil Solberg"
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I thought that system RAM was the most crucial part for working with
Photoshop, but I must admit I'm not really into it.

You are quite right, video RAM has nothing to do with 2D applications
performance, so long as its above about 16MB to hold the frame buffer
for high colour in high resolutions.
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Old November 30th 03, 06:48 PM
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Can some tell me what the difference is, other then the obvious doubling of
memory? In the real world, what difference will it make? What difference
will I notice?


You will notice a difference about the time they release Doom 3, until
then save your money...

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Old November 30th 03, 07:19 PM
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I'm sorry to disagree with you but having worked with extensive cad and
photoshop I personally have seen a difference in rendering large images with
256 meg cards and 128 meg cards of the same manufacturer and PC setup. As I
said before the differences are so little that it makes almost no difference
anyway but still the differences are there, and most especially if it's a 3d
drawing. The differences are between 10 and 30 seconds on the systems I've
seen which means that you're really wasting your money on 256 meg cards. I
would really love to see a 64 bit version of windows XP running a 64 bit
version of photoshop, a 256 meg video card, and 2 gigs or so of DDR ram
memory.

regards

B
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:41 +0100, "Egil Solberg"
wrote:

I thought that system RAM was the most crucial part for working with
Photoshop, but I must admit I'm not really into it.

You are quite right, video RAM has nothing to do with 2D applications
performance, so long as its above about 16MB to hold the frame buffer
for high colour in high resolutions.
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Old November 30th 03, 07:49 PM
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Following prompt first aid from the medic "Egil Solberg"
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message On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:41 +0100:

This I cannot understand. 64-bit computing is supposed to break the 4GB
barrier for system RAM (PAE not taken into consideration), and I think 4GB
should be enough for most people. How does this come into play regarding
videoram?


My first PC came with an enormous 4MB of RAM. Then it was 8, 16 32,
64, 128, 256, 512 at present. I already need 1Gig. How long before I
need more?

Video cards are already up to 256MB, though not exactly used by much
out there at the moment. That will change too.

When is enough ever enough with a PC?

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Old December 1st 03, 02:38 AM
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"Ook" wrote in message ...
Can some tell me what the difference is, other then the obvious doubling of
memory? In the real world, what difference will it make? What difference
will I notice?


128MB cards have generally higher clocked memory, because high clocked
memory is expensive... and if you make a 256MB board you rather keep
it cheap, so you use slower memory!

So 128MB cards are generally faster... ofcourse... within a few
months... things might change and games that actually can use 256MB
come on the market.. then being able to keep 256MB on the card migth
be a small pro vs. a 128MB card.

Then again.. maybe it still takes up to a year before such games
arise...

Aah.. when to upgrade and wich choices to make...
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Old December 1st 03, 12:55 PM
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:42:07 +0100 "B" meeped :

or
rendering some huge graphic pictures such as in Adobe Photoshop. So let's
say you were rendering a 15 meg painting you rendered with photoshop with a
256 meg card compared to a 128 meg card then you'll probably save anywhere
from 15 to 30 seconds, and some people report saving only 10 seconds



where on EARTH did you get this information !!!!! lmao
 




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