ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe

I've been looking at this motherboard for one of my test machines, but one
thing concerns me. The VIA firewire chip. Has anyone (1) Got this board?
(2) Have you used the FireWire aspect of this board and experienced any
problems?

Thanks.

@drian.

@drian wrote:

I've been looking at this motherboard for one of my test machines, but one
thing concerns me. The VIA firewire chip.

Yep that's scary! ;-)

Is the firewire why you want this over the other? If so spend $14 and get a

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...104-218&depa=1
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Stacey

"stacey" wrote in message
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Yep that's scary! ;-)

I know, horrific.

Is the firewire why you want this over the other? If so spend $14 and get
a

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...104-218&depa=1

Not just the FireWire, I want the P4C800-E over the P4C800 because of the
RAID controller in the SouthBridge, and the CSA LAN chip. Both of which I
consider improvements.

I found out tonight, I can get one of these for free:

http://www.siig.com/product.asp?part...ktop%20-%20Int
ernal

Shame ASUS had to lump their board with a VIA chip, I would have preferred
the TI component

@drian.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:54:58 GMT, "@drian" wrote:

I've been looking at this motherboard for one of my test machines, but one
thing concerns me. The VIA firewire chip. Has anyone (1) Got this board?
(2) Have you used the FireWire aspect of this board and experienced any
problems?

Thanks.

@drian.


Why in the world would you be worried about a Via firewire chip?
Because Via once had a buggy southbridge for Athlons 3 years ago?

The issue wouldn't be who made the firewire chip, but rather how well
Asus has implemented a board with all those features, and of course
that one in particular. Generally they do a pretty good job of
integration, though many people give up before reading the manual,
trying the settings instead of assuming it should work right, "right
out of the box" in every possible configuration.

If it doesn't work right just disable it and buy the card Stacey
linked to or some other.


Dave

"kony" wrote in message
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Why in the world would you be worried about a Via firewire chip?
Because Via once had a buggy southbridge for Athlons 3 years ago?

Yes. I've had enough problems with VIA chipsets to last a lifetime.
Personally, I don't trust them when it comes to compatibility. That's why,
when I see the FireWire chip on this board was made by VIA, I couldn't help
but wondering if it works without hiccup, especially for capturing video.

The issue wouldn't be who made the firewire chip, but rather how well
Asus has implemented a board with all those features, and of course
that one in particular. Generally they do a pretty good job of
integration, though many people give up before reading the manual,
trying the settings instead of assuming it should work right, "right
out of the box" in every possible configuration.

Yes, agreed. I've no problem reading the manual, and reading it thoroughly.
It's just I stick to components I know have worked with me in the past and
when it comes to FireWire, I know I've had success with TI chipsets. At one
point, Adobe didn't recommend anything with a VIA chipset when it comes to
capturing with Premiere.

If it doesn't work right just disable it and buy the card Stacey
linked to or some other.

Well, if it doesn't work, I have a card I can get for free, a SIIG PCI 32-T
FireWire 800.

Thanks.

@drian.

@drian wrote:


I found out tonight, I can get one of these for free:


http://www.siig.com/product.asp?part...ktop%20-%20Int
ernal

Shame ASUS had to lump their board with a VIA chip, I would have preferred
the TI component



Yep, the Ti chip is a good one and everyone supports it.
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Stacey

Wonderful. I just bought the P4P800 Deluxe with the VIA VT6410 RAID
controller. The manual indicates that if you don't put a drive connected to
this controller into an array it will work as a std. independent drive. The
VIA controller sees my drives (a Maxtor 60 GB and Maxtor 160 GB) and the
MaxBlast software sees them, but the Win2K Advanced Server install program
does not. You wouldn't happen to know anything about this, by chance, would
you?

Russell Campbell

"stacey" wrote in message
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kony wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:54:58 GMT, "@drian" wrote:

I've been looking at this motherboard for one of my test machines, but
one
thing concerns me. The VIA firewire chip. Has anyone (1) Got this
board?
(2) Have you used the FireWire aspect of this board and experienced any
problems?



Why in the world would you be worried about a Via firewire chip?
Because Via once had a buggy southbridge for Athlons 3 years ago?



No, because people are now bitching about problems (crap performance) with
the newest Via IDE raid chips on some of asus's boards (P4P800 deluxe) etc
USB problems with other newer Via chipsets etc.. Seems they still are VERY
good at making buggy hardware. Why suffer with this when there are KNOWN
good firewire chips, on PCI boards, for $14?

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Stacey

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:58:41 GMT, "Russell Campbell"
wrote:

Wonderful. I just bought the P4P800 Deluxe with the VIA VT6410 RAID
controller. The manual indicates that if you don't put a drive connected to
this controller into an array it will work as a std. independent drive. The
VIA controller sees my drives (a Maxtor 60 GB and Maxtor 160 GB) and the
MaxBlast software sees them, but the Win2K Advanced Server install program
does not. You wouldn't happen to know anything about this, by chance, would
you?

Russell Campbell

Did you feed it the driver floppy when it prompted you to?


Dave

Russell Campbell wrote:

Wonderful. I just bought the P4P800 Deluxe with the VIA VT6410 RAID
controller. The manual indicates that if you don't put a drive connected
to
this controller into an array it will work as a std. independent drive.
The VIA controller sees my drives (a Maxtor 60 GB and Maxtor 160 GB) and
the MaxBlast software sees them, but the Win2K Advanced Server install
program
does not. You wouldn't happen to know anything about this, by chance,
would you?



All I know is people talk about seeing very large % of CPU useage when
accessing drives conected to this controller. MUCH larger than even ancient
hardware did. Seems it isn't really a hardware controller but is kinda like
a "soft modem" in that it offloads some of the work to the CPU? Something
weird is going on....

Why connect the drives to that controller or is it the only one on the
board? If so I'd return the board and get the non-deluxe version. I'm using
the regular P4P800 and it works great and has no Via based hardware on it!
:-)

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Stacey

I got no such prompt and could find no drivers other than the windows
drivers. I connected to the regular IDE and installed Win2K, then installed
the drivers for the RAID controller. I planned to then reconnect to the
RAID controllers, but I immediately found that Windows would not shut down
properly after the drivers were installed. I am hearing a lot about the VIA
chips being crap and I am seeing problems with the drivers and I think I
will just disable the RAID controller and use the regular ATA 100 IDE
controllers.

Thanks for your reply,

Russell

"kony" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:58:41 GMT, "Russell Campbell"
wrote:

Wonderful. I just bought the P4P800 Deluxe with the VIA VT6410 RAID
controller. The manual indicates that if you don't put a drive connected
to
this controller into an array it will work as a std. independent drive.
The
VIA controller sees my drives (a Maxtor 60 GB and Maxtor 160 GB) and the
MaxBlast software sees them, but the Win2K Advanced Server install
program
does not. You wouldn't happen to know anything about this, by chance,
would
you?

Russell Campbell

Did you feed it the driver floppy when it prompted you to?


Dave