AMD/ATI scores a significant victory over Nvidia in G92 vs RV670 battle

Yawn.... Its the usual back and forth again... AMD has been out of the
running for about a year and finally came up with a part thats faster
then Nvidia... BORING....

No it's not boring. It's what enables game makers to put more
graphics-intensive content into their games, which in turn puts pressure on
hardware makers. Capitalism does have some positives.

rms

On Oct 6, 5:23 pm, "rms" wrote:
Yawn.... Its the usual back and forth again... AMD has been out of the
running for about a year and finally came up with a part thats faster
then Nvidia... BORING....

No it's not boring. It's what enables game makers to put more
graphics-intensive content into their games, which in turn puts pressure on
hardware makers. Capitalism does have some positives.

rms

I'm not saying its boring in the sense of the business end of things,
I'm saying its boring here. Its like a PS2/3 fanboy that **** talks
Xbox/360's. Who cares???

Sorry, I should have been a bit more clear on that.

Matt

On Oct 6, 3:40 pm, Tim O wrote:


Anyone who buys on the leading edge is just looking to get screwed.

Then what type of consumers should buy top-of-the-line models?

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:21:39 -0700, dacconverter
wrote:

On Oct 6, 3:40 pm, Tim O wrote:


Anyone who buys on the leading edge is just looking to get screwed.

Then what type of consumers should buy top-of-the-line models?

Guys in their mid 20's who live with their parents, wear trench coats,
drive Mini Coopers and collect Dungeons and Dragons rule books.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:27:18 -0400, Tim O wrote:

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:21:39 -0700, dacconverter
wrote:

On Oct 6, 3:40 pm, Tim O wrote:


Anyone who buys on the leading edge is just looking to get screwed.

Then what type of consumers should buy top-of-the-line models?

Guys in their mid 20's who live with their parents, wear trench coats,
drive Mini Coopers and collect Dungeons and Dragons rule books.


And think that they have a fan club that worships them for
their computer toys.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:21:05 -0500, Ed wrote:

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:21:39 -0700, dacconverter
wrote:

On Oct 6, 3:40 pm, Tim O wrote:


Anyone who buys on the leading edge is just looking to get screwed.

Then what type of consumers should buy top-of-the-line models?

Geeks with money to burn.


If they got it, let em' spend it.

AirRaid wrote:

A reference board from Nvidia is capable of scoring 10,800 3DMarks,
while a reference board from ATI will score around 11,400 3DMarks, or
a clear 550-600 points advantage.

Wow! What a thrashing! Night and day! (rolling eyes)

For me, it matters not who is slightly faster. Until AMD/ATI gets
their **** together on their Linux support, it's Nvidia all the way.

"chrisv" wrote in message
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AirRaid wrote:

A reference board from Nvidia is capable of scoring 10,800 3DMarks,
while a reference board from ATI will score around 11,400 3DMarks, or
a clear 550-600 points advantage.

Wow! What a thrashing! Night and day! (rolling eyes)

For me, it matters not who is slightly faster. Until AMD/ATI gets
their **** together on their Linux support, it's Nvidia all the way.


Lately (in the past year) ATi's Linux support has been much improved. Every
Linux GL app or game I throw at my X1900XTX works fine. Any driver issues
I've had were rectified 6 months worth of driver revs ago.

What issues are you having currently? Or are you operating and posting from
previous experiences only?

Tony

Tony DiMarzio wrote:

"chrisv" wrote:

For me, it matters not who is slightly faster. Until AMD/ATI gets
their **** together on their Linux support, it's Nvidia all the way.

Lately (in the past year) ATi's Linux support has been much improved. Every
Linux GL app or game I throw at my X1900XTX works fine. Any driver issues
I've had were rectified 6 months worth of driver revs ago.

What issues are you having currently? Or are you operating and posting from
previous experiences only?

I've never been able to get the 3D support working. My most recent
experience was with PCLinuxOS 2007 and a 9500 Pro. I gave up and
bought a 6200-based card.

Our favorite NviDia troll has again spoken.....




"John Lewis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:25:32 -0700, AirRaid
wrote:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...admits-defeat=
-g92-vs

Nvidia admits defeat in G92 vs. RV670 battle

3DMark wars

By Theo Valich: Friday, 05 October 2007, 9:39 AM

IN THE FAR EAST, 3DMark is everything. You can say whatever you want
about canned benchmarks, but nobody can dodge the influence of the
3DMark06 benchmark.

It's been the same story with previous iterations of graphics cards,
and the same will happen with the next, DX10-only workout. When that
is coming out, only Futuremark knows.

But something very significant happened in this round of the war, at
least according to our highly-ranked sources.

This time around, Nvidia did not tout its G92_200 series as the
fastest thing since Niki Lauda, but rather admitted defeat in this all-
popular synthetic benchmark at the hands of a yet-unnamed Radeon HD
part.


nVidia is phasing out the 8800GTS and filling the hole at a much
lower, but far higher-volume and with far greater total profits..
Phasing out the G80 has been a top priority for at least the last
year. Too large, low-yield, low profit-margin.

A reference board from Nvidia is capable of scoring 10,800 3DMarks,
while a reference board from ATI will score around 11,400 3DMarks, or
a clear 550-600 points advantage.

This is a massive leap over previous-gen parts. The current
generation's high-end performer from Nvidia, the 8800Ultra scores
12,500 points. Seeing a mainstream, $250 part scoring barely a
thousand less than a current $599 card only makes us wonder how those
owners that coughed up so much will feel.


Er, owners of 8800GTX cards purchased at $599, have had them for
almost a year.... I'm sure that they will not be too upsaet. Their
current cards will tide them over until nV's 2nd-generation Dx10
offerings in development for at least the past year finally appear.

When it comes to ATI's part, you know what to expect in this synthetic
benchmark - outscoring Radeon HD 2900XT is a default mode of operation
for RV670XT. At least in lower resolutions.

Partners are less than happy with Nvidia board politics as well, but
this is a subject of another story. =B5


Our favorite ATi troll has again spoken.....

And the expected volume ship date is when ??
( And if 3-6 months behind nV's G92, the ATi offering will get
swamped by nV's 2nd-generation Dx10 parts. Always a step behind... now
increasing to two steps behind in high-performance GPU's, since AMD
has no money to invest in bleeding-edge graphics without jeopardizing
their core business in their life-blood struggle with Intel )

And the list price of the ATi offering is ??

John Lewis