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Can I run IDE Drives and SATA Drives Together?
I have an ASUS P4S8X motherboard and have been running a 80GB IDE
drive (partitioned into C: and D: drives). I bought a SATA 200GB drive thinking that I can run both tyeps of drives simultaneously, keeping the IDE drive as my bootable drive running Windows XP. I have headers on the motherboard for a primary UltraDMA 133 IDE, a secondary UltraDMA 133 IDE, a primary ATA133, a primary SATA, and a secodary SATA. The P4S8X manual says that I can run a RAID using both the ATA IDE and the SATA drives together, but makes no mention of running the UltraDMA133 IDE simultaneously with SATA. I was hoping to run the SATA as an additional drive to store data on, keeping the primary UltraDMA 133 as my boot device (so that I don't have to spend the better part of a weekend building a new drive with the OS and all my applications. Is there any hope for me? |
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wrote in message ... I have an ASUS P4S8X motherboard and have been running a 80GB IDE drive (partitioned into C: and D: drives). I bought a SATA 200GB drive thinking that I can run both tyeps of drives simultaneously, keeping the IDE drive as my bootable drive running Windows XP. I have headers on the motherboard for a primary UltraDMA 133 IDE, a secondary UltraDMA 133 IDE, a primary ATA133, a primary SATA, and a secodary SATA. The P4S8X manual says that I can run a RAID using both the ATA IDE and the SATA drives together, but makes no mention of running the UltraDMA133 IDE simultaneously with SATA. I was hoping to run the SATA as an additional drive to store data on, keeping the primary UltraDMA 133 as my boot device (so that I don't have to spend the better part of a weekend building a new drive with the OS and all my applications. Is there any hope for me? Yes this is not a problem, my setup incorporates IDE drives and SATA drives, as follows. on PROMISE RAID (not VIA, obviously you'll have a P4 board equivalent) SATA1 = 40GB Raptor (C SATA2 = 200GB Maxtor (D IDE Primary Master = 120GB Maxtor (E IDE Secondary Master / Slave = DVD and DVD/RW In my case I use the SATA 1 for boot up, which requires the driver disk during the windows install process. It is important to set up the Array for the SATA drive in the RAID BIOS though or the drive won't be seen by windows (check your manual). I connect my SATAs to the PROMISE RAID, and not the VIA (you'll have an equivalent P4 board RAID option I expect) as the Promise RAID supports RAID 0+1, which allows me to have the drives seen seperately. I would install the drive on the Promise RAID if it were me, once installed and setup, it's a matter of drivers, then partioning and formatting in windows. But if I can run my setup, I don't see any reason why you can't run yours! Cheers |
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Mark Timerding wrote: While I am using a K8V in lieu of the P4S8X and dont know about that board, but I do know that SATA and IDE drives will run together.....(tho I dont know a whole lot about RAID setups), My current config is: Drive C: Partition one of WDC Raptor 74 gig Sata (on SATA 1) Drive D: Segate 80 gig Sata (on SATA 2) Drive E: Seagate 60 gig IDE (IDE 1 Master) Drive F: Seagate 120gig IDE (IDE 1 Slave) Drive G: Partition two of the WDC Raptor (on Sata 1) Drive H: Pioneer 108 DVDRW (IDE 2 Master) Drive I: Pioneer 106 DVDRW (IDE 2 Slave) Initially, I was using the IDE's to boot off of, and only had (and used) the one 80 gig sata for storage but recently had purchased the Raptor, and hence made the Sata my Boot (C) drive. Interesting. What OS are you using, and when you changed boot drives did you have to re-install the OS or is there a way to transfer the existing installation? |
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On 5-Nov-2004, WoofWoof wrote: What OS are you using, and when you changed boot drives did you have to re-install the OS or is there a way to transfer the existing installation? I am using Windows XP Pro (now with sp2) .... I did a complete reinstall of everything, as I had changed the motherboard (to the Asus K8V at the time) along with the new Raptor drive for booting..... Prior to this, when I was using a sata drive as data storage only (and only one drive) I had been using an Asus A7N8X motherboard) ... (also, I did use the F6 option at the install of Windows to load the VIA Sata drivers) |
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LeeBos wrote: Subject: Can I run IDE Drives and SATA Drives Together? From: WoofWoof Date: 11/5/2004 11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Mark Timerding wrote: While I am using a K8V in lieu of the P4S8X and dont know about that board, but I do know that SATA and IDE drives will run together.....(tho I dont know a whole lot about RAID setups), My current config is: Drive C: Partition one of WDC Raptor 74 gig Sata (on SATA 1) Drive D: Segate 80 gig Sata (on SATA 2) Drive E: Seagate 60 gig IDE (IDE 1 Master) Drive F: Seagate 120gig IDE (IDE 1 Slave) Drive G: Partition two of the WDC Raptor (on Sata 1) Drive H: Pioneer 108 DVDRW (IDE 2 Master) Drive I: Pioneer 106 DVDRW (IDE 2 Slave) Initially, I was using the IDE's to boot off of, and only had (and used) the one 80 gig sata for storage but recently had purchased the Raptor, and hence made the Sata my Boot (C) drive. Interesting. What OS are you using, and when you changed boot drives did you have to re-install the OS or is there a way to transfer the existing installation? Mine is XP Pro. It can be done using Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image or a similar program. Make a backup image, put in the new drive, take out the old drive temporarily, put in the new drive and config the bios to boot from it then restore the Ghost image to it. You may be asked to reactivate windows, I was when I went from IDE to SATA RAID 0. See, this is where I start to lose it. This would be standard procedure if swapping an ide for another ide drive. But Windows AFAIK needs a driver to be loaded to run SATA drives which you would normally install (on a fresh OS install) by pressing F6 during the install. If the OS is simply copied over from the ide, the driver isn't available and Windows, I should think, would barf. Or am I all wet? Is it only pre-XP windows that need the driver install? |
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WoofWoof wrote:
LeeBos wrote: Subject: Can I run IDE Drives and SATA Drives Together? From: WoofWoof Date: 11/5/2004 11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Mark Timerding wrote: While I am using a K8V in lieu of the P4S8X and dont know about that board, but I do know that SATA and IDE drives will run together.....(tho I dont know a whole lot about RAID setups), My current config is: Drive C: Partition one of WDC Raptor 74 gig Sata (on SATA 1) Drive D: Segate 80 gig Sata (on SATA 2) Drive E: Seagate 60 gig IDE (IDE 1 Master) Drive F: Seagate 120gig IDE (IDE 1 Slave) Drive G: Partition two of the WDC Raptor (on Sata 1) Drive H: Pioneer 108 DVDRW (IDE 2 Master) Drive I: Pioneer 106 DVDRW (IDE 2 Slave) Initially, I was using the IDE's to boot off of, and only had (and used) the one 80 gig sata for storage but recently had purchased the Raptor, and hence made the Sata my Boot (C) drive. Interesting. What OS are you using, and when you changed boot drives did you have to re-install the OS or is there a way to transfer the existing installation? Mine is XP Pro. It can be done using Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image or a similar program. Make a backup image, put in the new drive, take out the old drive temporarily, put in the new drive and config the bios to boot from it then restore the Ghost image to it. You may be asked to reactivate windows, I was when I went from IDE to SATA RAID 0. See, this is where I start to lose it. This would be standard procedure if swapping an ide for another ide drive. But Windows AFAIK needs a driver to be loaded to run SATA drives which you would normally install (on a fresh OS install) by pressing F6 during the install. If the OS is simply copied over from the ide, the driver isn't available and Windows, I should think, would barf. Or am I all wet? Is it only pre-XP windows that need the driver install? Install/Copy the SATA driver files into a directory on the IDE drive and hook the blank SATA Drive to the system. Windows should give the "Found New Hardware" wizard. Point it to the location where you've put the SATA drivers and it will install them. That way the driver is installed to the OS while still on the IDE. To make it your primary drive, Ghost everything to the SATA, remove the IDE and upon boot, the OS will grab the driver and off you go. If you want to use the SATA as a secondary drive then just partition and format it using utilities included in Windows. HTH. Rob |
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Rob wrote: Install/Copy the SATA driver files into a directory on the IDE drive and hook the blank SATA Drive to the system. Windows should give the "Found New Hardware" wizard. Point it to the location where you've put the SATA drivers and it will install them. That way the driver is installed to the OS while still on the IDE. To make it your primary drive, Ghost everything to the SATA, remove the IDE and upon boot, the OS will grab the driver and off you go. If you want to use the SATA as a secondary drive then just partition and format it using utilities included in Windows. HTH. Ah ... that makes sense! Now I get it. Thanks, Rob |
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Subject: Can I run IDE Drives and SATA Drives Together?
From: Rob Date: 11/6/2004 1:17 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Gy8jd.372426$D%.170492@attbi_s51 WoofWoof wrote: LeeBos wrote: Subject: Can I run IDE Drives and SATA Drives Together? From: WoofWoof Date: 11/5/2004 11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Mark Timerding wrote: While I am using a K8V in lieu of the P4S8X and dont know about that board, but I do know that SATA and IDE drives will run together.....(tho I dont know a whole lot about RAID setups), My current config is: Drive C: Partition one of WDC Raptor 74 gig Sata (on SATA 1) Drive D: Segate 80 gig Sata (on SATA 2) Drive E: Seagate 60 gig IDE (IDE 1 Master) Drive F: Seagate 120gig IDE (IDE 1 Slave) Drive G: Partition two of the WDC Raptor (on Sata 1) Drive H: Pioneer 108 DVDRW (IDE 2 Master) Drive I: Pioneer 106 DVDRW (IDE 2 Slave) Initially, I was using the IDE's to boot off of, and only had (and used) the one 80 gig sata for storage but recently had purchased the Raptor, and hence made the Sata my Boot (C) drive. Interesting. What OS are you using, and when you changed boot drives did you have to re-install the OS or is there a way to transfer the existing installation? Mine is XP Pro. It can be done using Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image or a similar program. Make a backup image, put in the new drive, take out the old drive temporarily, put in the new drive and config the bios to boot from it then restore the Ghost image to it. You may be asked to reactivate windows, I was when I went from IDE to SATA RAID 0. See, this is where I start to lose it. This would be standard procedure if swapping an ide for another ide drive. But Windows AFAIK needs a driver to be loaded to run SATA drives which you would normally install (on a fresh OS install) by pressing F6 during the install. If the OS is simply copied over from the ide, the driver isn't available and Windows, I should think, would barf. Or am I all wet? Is it only pre-XP windows that need the driver install? Install/Copy the SATA driver files into a directory on the IDE drive and hook the blank SATA Drive to the system. Windows should give the "Found New Hardware" wizard. Point it to the location where you've put the SATA drivers and it will install them. That way the driver is installed to the OS while still on the IDE. To make it your primary drive, Ghost everything to the SATA, remove the IDE and upon boot, the OS will grab the driver and off you go. If you want to use the SATA as a secondary drive then just partition and format it using utilities included in Windows. HTH. Rob Rob is correct, sorry I forgot to mention that you had to load the drivers first. |
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