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What store to go and see for myself in LA before buying a case?
I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't
decide on one. I want to go some store in LA to get a look and feel before I buy one. Can you suggest some stores have a big collections of cases? |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:20:51 -0700, phantom wrote:
I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't decide on one. I want to go some store in LA to get a look and feel before I buy one. Can you suggest some stores have a big collections of cases? Fry's Electronics. u made it sound like Des Moines, Iowa. -bobb |
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:25:39 GMT, "JAD" wrote:
Louisiana? Any large computer store, but Fry's (UG!) would have the biggest on hand display that I have seen. I know some of you like to make fun of Fry's, but u gotta remember Fry's was born from Silicon Valley, a place where your run of the mill customer has a Master in Electronics/Material Science/Physic engineering. So salespeople's knowledge of the products was unnecessary and unwanted, all we want to know is what shelf the stuffs we want is, and if I can pick up a six-pack coke and a razor at the same time, that's groovy. Don't go to Fry's expecting in-depth explanation and forgive the temporary cashiers (they don't last long), and yer fine. They got the best return policy of any electronics retailer I know, and that's mighty important when there is no way to find out about a product (really) until you bring one home. -bobb |
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phantom wrote in message . ..
I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't decide on one. Keep in mind that the most important dimension for an ATX case isn't the height or width but the depth because depth determines whether the motherboard and disk drives will have enough clearance for one another, and it has to be at least 18", excluding the front bezel (bezel adds as much as another 1.5"), for the largest motherboards to not overlap with any CD drives. Many cases are only 16" deep. Sometimes it costs less to buy a cheap case that includes a power supply and buy a separate high-quality power supply than to buy a high quality case that c omes with a good power supply. Don't ever risk your equipment to a bad power supply; stay with quality, such as Antec or Fortron/Sparkle. |
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phantom wrote in message . ..
I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't decide on one. Fry's has everything from the worst to the best, but the most important factors are the quality of the power supply and the depth. Many cheap cases come with the worst power supplies, including brands such as ICTronics, Transworld, King Case (King Star), Raidmax, Allied (one of the many Deer brands, some others being Codegen, L&C, Mercury, Foxconn). These can't be trusted to deliver 100% of their rated power, last long, or not interfere with TV/radio reception. But a high quality case that includes a good power supply often costs more than a cheap case with a bad power supply and a high quality supply bought separately. Some good power supply brands are Antec and Fortron/Sparkle, and www.directron.com and www.newegg.com have the latter at good prices. The height and width of a computer case aren't as important as the depth because depth determines whether the motherboard and disk drives will clear each other, and the largest motherboards need a case with at least 18" of depth (excluding front bezel, which adds up to 1.5" more) to avoid overlap with the CD-ROM drive. Most cases are only 16" deep. |
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without stating how many of those brands of cases I've used that are still
running after 3years,I can tell you about as many antec/cases entermax psu's I have had go out. Its pretty much a damn crap shoot, Quoting brands and marking them untrustable based on your opinion will only get you a hundred replies stating the opposite..I agree quality is important but hardly means definte longevity or trustability. The rest comes down to the basics, How much room you have Where the Case will reside. Then there is cooling. "do_not_spam_me" wrote in message om... phantom wrote in message . .. I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't decide on one. Fry's has everything from the worst to the best, but the most important factors are the quality of the power supply and the depth. Many cheap cases come with the worst power supplies, including brands such as ICTronics, Transworld, King Case (King Star), Raidmax, Allied (one of the many Deer brands, some others being Codegen, L&C, Mercury, Foxconn). These can't be trusted to deliver 100% of their rated power, last long, or not interfere with TV/radio reception. But a high quality case that includes a good power supply often costs more than a cheap case with a bad power supply and a high quality supply bought separately. Some good power supply brands are Antec and Fortron/Sparkle, and www.directron.com and www.newegg.com have the latter at good prices. The height and width of a computer case aren't as important as the depth because depth determines whether the motherboard and disk drives will clear each other, and the largest motherboards need a case with at least 18" of depth (excluding front bezel, which adds up to 1.5" more) to avoid overlap with the CD-ROM drive. Most cases are only 16" deep. |
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Fry's was born from Silicon Valley,
Isn't everyone Out of work in silicon valley? So salespeople's knowledge of the products was unnecessary and unwanted, Things haven't changed and if I can pick up a six-pack coke and a razor at the same time, that's groovy That's true...Never had to return a coke I have gotten from there before They got the best return policy of any electronics retailer I know, and that's mighty important when there is no way to find out about a product (really) until you bring one home. They need to have, mainly because 4 out of ten purchases have to be returned. Which in "returns" you'll find the guy who should be out on the floor, cause they are the only ones who know anything. I web shop around, I go to Frys, , Look at specific products I have researched, if they have the price I'll Buy it. I don't buy ANYTHING with a FRYS repackage sticker on it, That's a deadly move, Cause EVERYTHING goes back on the self at least 2 times before it hits the BIN. This is because some people believe they don't really know a product until they plug it in, usually BEFORE they read the instructions. "bobb" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:25:39 GMT, "JAD" wrote: Louisiana? Any large computer store, but Fry's (UG!) would have the biggest on hand display that I have seen. I know some of you like to make fun of Fry's, but u gotta remember a place where your run of the mill customer has a Master in Electronics/Material Science/Physic engineering. all we want to know is what shelf the stuffs we want is, . Don't go to Fry's expecting in-depth explanation and forgive the temporary cashiers (they don't last long), and yer fine. -bobb |
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I have to agree, totally, with this reply.
- JAD stood up, at show-n-tell, and said: without stating how many of those brands of cases I've used that are still running after 3years,I can tell you about as many antec/cases entermax psu's I have had go out. Its pretty much a damn crap shoot, Quoting brands and marking them untrustable based on your opinion will only get you a hundred replies stating the opposite..I agree quality is important but hardly means definte longevity or trustability. The rest comes down to the basics, How much room you have Where the Case will reside. Then there is cooling. "do_not_spam_me" wrote in message om... phantom wrote in message . .. I'm being shopping for a case online sometime but couldn't decide on one. Fry's has everything from the worst to the best, but the most important factors are the quality of the power supply and the depth. Many cheap cases come with the worst power supplies, including brands such as ICTronics, Transworld, King Case (King Star), Raidmax, Allied (one of the many Deer brands, some others being Codegen, L&C, Mercury, Foxconn). These can't be trusted to deliver 100% of their rated power, last long, or not interfere with TV/radio reception. But a high quality case that includes a good power supply often costs more than a cheap case with a bad power supply and a high quality supply bought separately. Some good power supply brands are Antec and Fortron/Sparkle, and www.directron.com and www.newegg.com have the latter at good prices. The height and width of a computer case aren't as important as the depth because depth determines whether the motherboard and disk drives will clear each other, and the largest motherboards need a case with at least 18" of depth (excluding front bezel, which adds up to 1.5" more) to avoid overlap with the CD-ROM drive. Most cases are only 16" deep. -- Strontium "Shortcuts are self-defeating. Mean. If you cannot do it, clean, you'll never reach your reward..." - 311 |
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"bobb" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:25:39 GMT, "JAD" wrote: Louisiana? Any large computer store, but Fry's (UG!) would have the biggest on hand display that I have seen. I know some of you like to make fun of Fry's, but u gotta remember Fry's was born from Silicon Valley, a place where your run of the mill customer has a Master in Electronics/Material Science/Physic engineering. So salespeople's knowledge of the products was unnecessary and unwanted, all we want to know is what shelf the stuffs we want is, and if I can pick up a six-pack coke and a razor at the same time, that's groovy. Don't go to Fry's expecting in-depth explanation and forgive the temporary cashiers (they don't last long), and yer fine. They got the best return policy of any electronics retailer I know, and that's mighty important when there is no way to find out about a product (really) until you bring one home. -bobb You work for Fry's? Yep, the best return policy I've ever encountered. I really don't like returning merchandise and I only return merchandise that doesn't work. Here's an employee tip for you. For all merchandise placed on the floor Fry's should also place the merchandise manual. That might help with the questions and returned merchandise. I've noticed this is usually done for m/bs, a/cs on display but Fry's should do this with all appliances, home theater receivers, audio receivers, tv, radios, refrigerators, pc systems, speakers, washer/dryers, etc. I'm returning a Sony home theater because it doesn't support a phono which I would have noticed had a manual been available and features (like OSD, universal remote control ) that don't work as implied, but the sound is perfect. |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:35:34 GMT, "jaster" wrote:
You work for Fry's? Heavens, NO. They hire no cute girls for me to get interested. I really don't like returning merchandise and I only return merchandise that doesn't work. Well, it's certainly no fun standing in that long returns line specially weekends, but I gotta do what I gotta do. Hey, Fry's management are no dummies and I don't presume so. Here's an employee tip for you. For all merchandise placed on the floor Fry's should also place the merchandise manual. That might help with the questions and returned merchandise. I've noticed this is usually done for m/bs, a/cs on display but Fry's should do this with all appliances, home theater receivers, audio receivers, tv, radios, refrigerators, pc systems, speakers, washer/dryers, etc. I'm returning a Sony home theater because it doesn't support a phono which I would have noticed had a manual been available and features (like OSD, universal remote control ) that don't work as implied, but the sound is perfect. Not a bad idea, but a simple look at the back panel for the phono jack is easy enough. These day, I'd imagine if you insist on built-in phono input, you are cornering yourself to a few models. -bobb |
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