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Old July 12th 03, 03:28 AM
Strontium
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All I did was prove that the 5200 is a piece of crap. Rethink your
reasoning. That thing can't even blast a GF3 Ti200...why not? You ask, or
not, try oc'ing that lame excuse for an upgrade 5200. I, totally, bypassed
the GF4 line. Why? Because this GF3 Ti200 is a biatch! And, I read the
link. You might, also, notice that the only other dude above me cheated

cyeh.




"Dave" wrote in message
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Dude, your bursting your own bubble. If you actually read the link you
posted you'll see that the ti200 in question is overclocked beyond ti500
specs. All you did was prove my numbers are dead on.
Dave

"Strontium" wrote in message
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Hate to burst your bubble:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6706540


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Dave stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:

I meant configured by the manufacturer with a high core clock and fast
memory also clocked high. The Prolink 5200 clocked at 275/500 gets
into the 9400 range on 3dmark2001. The GF3 ti200 only gets about
8400. This is with a high-end system like a 3 gig P4. Most of the
128 bit 5200 cards are clocked at 250/400 and are about equal to the
ti200. None of them can touch a ti500 which is up in the 10200 range.
Dave

"Stephen Smith" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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I'm thinking Nvidia needs to step in and put a stop to all this
confusion. It's giving their 5200 chip a bad name. If properly
configured, it does have the ability to best the GF3.
Dave


Dave, I'm interested -- HOW do you "configure" it exactly?!!
Especially to GeForce 3 standard?!

I tried overclocking the 5200 in the system I was using but it made
no /noticable/ difference with Max Payne and BloodRayne, the
guinea-pigs. I even managed to O/C it too far, led to desktop
corruption, BloodRayne wouldn't load, etc, etc.

Now I'm confused........


http://www.msicomputer.com/product/v...l=FX5200_TD128

The image clearly shows a DVI connector and a fan.

How come the MSI 5200 I was using DIDN'T have a DVI connector _or_
fan on it? (it had just a heatsink) It definately had 128MB, so it
wasn't the 64MB model.

Do they make another version that isn't listed on their website, per
chance?

Could it have been the PC causing the duff performance?

Gigabyte GA-7VTXE motherboard
AMD Athlon 1800+ (running at 1533MHz, it claimed)
256MB RAM. [low for BloodRayne, I know]
Windows 98SE, VIA 4-in-1 drivers installed, etc.

Stephen.


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Old July 12th 03, 05:13 AM
Larry Roberts
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I'm in the same "boat" as you. I do work on ppls computers on
the side for extra cash which pays for upgrades. Most of them ask why
I don't go into business doing this, but what they fail to notice is
how long it takes me to do something as simple as pulling a videocard
out, and replacing it. Most can do this within 20min, or so. It takes
me an hour, or more from the time I get the case off till I finish
testing the card. Then I still have to get the case cover back on.
Besides.. These people know nothing about how a PC works. They can
barly turn on the thing. To them, I'm a guru. Most 13yr olds know what
I know, it's just that there usally to lazy to work on other ppls
stuff. Another thing is that no computer repair business in the area
has stayed open for more than a year, or two, except for one, but they
do alot of contracts with local industry. Their private customer sales
are almost none.
I "fixed" my cousin's computer a few weeks ago, and scored a
21" monitor. All I did was format, reinstalled OS, and sottware, and
in retrurn I got the monitor. His parents are retired, and clean
offices for extra income. The office was upgrading the old PII
workstations. My cousin got a full Intergraph Worstation PC with dual
PII 300Mhz CPU with a 19" monitor for free. They where gona throw it
out. His dad asked if they had another monitor, and they gave him the
21" as well.
I was thinking of getting a Prolink FX5200 which is clocked
higher than the other non-Ultra cards out, but I'm thinking maybe
I'll save a while longer till I can afford an FX 5600. It'll take me
another 3 months I guess, but it will feel more of a worthwhile
purchase since I already have a GF3 Ti200.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:08:08 -0600, "Bratboy" wrote:

As much as I've always sworn to never go ATI I wish I could afford one at
this point as Im so mad. Unfortunatly tho when you live on a measly $550 a
month disability like I do its hard to get 2 pennies to rub together let
alone the cost of a card hehe. My GF3 was my last purchase before I lost all
my income so was despratly trying to make do but the 5200 just WONT do hehe.
Think I saw it at one point doing a whooping 3-4 fps in some of the old
3dmark01 High qual tests and it sure didnt handle Nature test even 1/2 as
well as my old gf3 (for a real laugh try the scene with the fish, ran like a
dog on the fx5200. Sigh..... sux to be poor and too old for presents hehe.
Still no matter which way you slice it the fx5200 is a sorry example of
Nvidias capabilities and Gainward, as well as any other company makeing em,
should be ashamed of even producing a 128 meg/64 bit card to begin with.
From what I could find on Nvidia's site everything I did find said for spec
128 meg should use 128 bit not cut its legs off and use 64bit. Wonder if ATI
would trade for the fx5200 if I promised to write a Glowing "I've Converted"
email for it wink
Just Jess

"John" wrote in message
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Yeah, I know the feeling. I was forced to replace my
gainward golden sample gf3 that ran at 230/570, with a
fx5200,128 mb...believe me, it doesnt matter much if its a
128 or a 64 bit version, both of them suck!
Even when I overclocked the thing to 300 core and 600 mem, it was a lot
slower that my gf3 not overclocked....about 3/4 in preformance.
What the point of getting all the dx9 stuff, if the game runs
at 3 fps??? Anyway, I got a 9700 pro yesterday,and I am happy as hell!

John
"Chimera" wrote in message
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Bratboy wrote:
Buyer beware, apparently the only fx5200 by gainward that uses the 128

bit
mem path is the Golden Sample versions all others in the 5200's are

using
a
crappy 64 bit pathway which absolutly kills the card as far as ANY
performance at all. A company sent me a Gainward fx5200 (lite version)

to
replace a failing gf3 and it royally sux. Apparently Lite means lite

on
performance. No where on the box do they even dare mention that it

only
uses
a 64 bit bus. You have to go look at their site to learn that. Anyway

an
some tests using both cards:

3DMark01 SE
1280x1024, 32 bit, 2xAA and 2xAF

Old GF3 - 2698, 2695, 2699
FX5200 - 1058, 1050, 1055

All in all so **** poor a performer I wouldnt even wish it on my worst
enemy. Really glad the company sent it to me free as if I'd paid even

$50
for it I'd be way more ****ed. As is I wrote to Gainward and am

hopeing
they
have some sort of step up p[rogram to deal with this but know better

than
to
hold my breath that they will do anything.

Just Jess

Man, Id be on the phone giving them a serious WTF! They are either

stingy
or stupid, and there is no way that an entry level GFFX 5200 is an
equivalent to a GF3.







 




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