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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want it to?
We have a couple of Canon Color Imagerunner c3380/C2880 printers.
When we print black and white it costs us about a cent. When we print colour its about 10 cents. To reduce costs we want to slow people down from printing color. We use active directories, and often several people log onto one computer. If a person is logged in I can go to preferences in the printer window and choose black and white as the default for their setting rather than auto, which would make all their copies print b/w unless they specifically choose colour. But this means I have to do this on 100 computers. Seems a bit much. Is there a Global way to change peoples computers so that they can be set automatically to print black and white, unless they specifically choose Colour. Does any one know this printer I have listed above, and know how to do this. Or is there a script that can be written to automatically do this on everyones comptuer say when they log in. I DONT want to stop people I just want to globally change things to b/w unless they specifically choose colour. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want it to?
You can't. Put in a Laser black only for them to use and restrict who uses
the color printer. "steve" wrote in message ... We have a couple of Canon Color Imagerunner c3380/C2880 printers. When we print black and white it costs us about a cent. When we print colour its about 10 cents. To reduce costs we want to slow people down from printing color. We use active directories, and often several people log onto one computer. If a person is logged in I can go to preferences in the printer window and choose black and white as the default for their setting rather than auto, which would make all their copies print b/w unless they specifically choose colour. But this means I have to do this on 100 computers. Seems a bit much. Is there a Global way to change peoples computers so that they can be set automatically to print black and white, unless they specifically choose Colour. Does any one know this printer I have listed above, and know how to do this. Or is there a script that can be written to automatically do this on everyones comptuer say when they log in. I DONT want to stop people I just want to globally change things to b/w unless they specifically choose colour. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
Considering how cheap even fairly good networking business black and
white laser printers are these days, I would agree with Woody, and offer two printer, one for Black and white prints, one for color. However, make sure the cost of consumables on the black and white printer aren't ridiculous. Some less costly B&W laser printers may make up for the cost by charging you so much for the refill toner that it will end up close to ten cents a copy anyway. On the server, you may be able to place a warning when the color printer is selected as part of the printer "name" or some type of pop up window that says something like: This printer is only to be used for intended color printing, otherwise please select printer X for black and white output. Then send out an email notice to all employees telling them they will be docked bonus pay if they print unnecessary color output ;-) Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Woody wrote: You can't. Put in a Laser black only for them to use and restrict who uses the color printer. "steve" wrote in message ... We have a couple of Canon Color Imagerunner c3380/C2880 printers. When we print black and white it costs us about a cent. When we print colour its about 10 cents. To reduce costs we want to slow people down from printing color. We use active directories, and often several people log onto one computer. If a person is logged in I can go to preferences in the printer window and choose black and white as the default for their setting rather than auto, which would make all their copies print b/w unless they specifically choose colour. But this means I have to do this on 100 computers. Seems a bit much. Is there a Global way to change peoples computers so that they can be set automatically to print black and white, unless they specifically choose Colour. Does any one know this printer I have listed above, and know how to do this. Or is there a script that can be written to automatically do this on everyones comptuer say when they log in. I DONT want to stop people I just want to globally change things to b/w unless they specifically choose colour. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
On Dec 8, 8:12 pm, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Considering how cheap even fairly good networking business black and white laser printers are these days, I would agree with Woody, and offer two printer, one for Black and white prints, one for color. However, make sure the cost of consumables on the black and white printer aren't ridiculous. Some less costly B&W laser printers may make up for the cost by charging you so much for the refill toner that it will end up close to ten cents a copy anyway. On the server, you may be able to place a warning when the color printer is selected as part of the printer "name" or some type of pop up window that says something like: This printer is only to be used for intended color printing, otherwise please select printer X for black and white output. I think Arthur is on to something, though I think there is a better way to implement it. You don't install a $8000 unit just to be told to install ANOTHER laser. Even so, the cost per page is going to be at least double on your average sub $2000 laser printer. Hell, the black toner cartridge is like $65 for 26,000 pages. Taking fuser and developers into account it's in the penny range. IIRC the imagerunner series supports postscript, so in theory one could use a driver for another printer, say one that didn't support color, and just direct it to the imageRunner. I've never done this my self, so I have NO clue if it would work. Alternatively one could use the driver from a lesser non-color model. This is presuming that one can't define access to specific functions like color printing. Though this is the sort of thing that one should be talking to Canon about. This is something that SHOULD be included in the admin faq. "How do I restrict color use" or "how do I default to B&W" |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
Thanks for some of your suggestions.
It seems a little frustrating. We have a plan so all supplies and repairs are paid for. However we pay some fraction of a cent for b/w and 10 cents for color. In a month b/w is 166 dollars and color is 1900. People print color because they can or are too ignorant to not do it. I Have read much of the canon manual. And they purposly make it hard to limit color. Anyway I will persever. thank.s |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
Follow up question:
Where are the settings saved? They must be saved on the local computer. Could I not get these settings eg if in registisry or elseware and then copy them into the various computers using a batch file when they log in via active directories. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:12:29 -0800, Arthur Entlich wrote:
He TOP POSTED Again Considering how cheap even fairly good networking business black and white laser printers are these days, I would agree with Woody, and offer two printer, one for Black and white prints, one for color. However, make sure the cost of consumables on the black and white printer aren't ridiculous. Some less costly B&W laser printers may make up for the cost by charging you so much for the refill toner that it will end up close to ten cents a copy anyway. On the server, you may be able to place a warning when the color printer is selected as part of the printer "name" or some type of pop up window that says something like: This printer is only to be used for intended color printing, otherwise please select printer X for black and white output. Then send out an email notice to all employees telling them they will be docked bonus pay if they print unnecessary color output ;-) Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Woody wrote: You can't. Put in a Laser black only for them to use and restrict who uses the color printer. "steve" wrote in message ... We have a couple of Canon Color Imagerunner c3380/C2880 printers. When we print black and white it costs us about a cent. When we print colour its about 10 cents. To reduce costs we want to slow people down from printing color. We use active directories, and often several people log onto one computer. If a person is logged in I can go to preferences in the printer window and choose black and white as the default for their setting rather than auto, which would make all their copies print b/w unless they specifically choose colour. But this means I have to do this on 100 computers. Seems a bit much. Is there a Global way to change peoples computers so that they can be set automatically to print black and white, unless they specifically choose Colour. Does any one know this printer I have listed above, and know how to do this. Or is there a script that can be written to automatically do this on everyones comptuer say when they log in. I DONT want to stop people I just want to globally change things to b/w unless they specifically choose colour. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
If I understand correctly, this printer is on contract and so you pay
"per push" as it is referred to, with a set price for each page that goes through, regardless of the actual cost of consumables. You may need to "human engineer" a solution, by appealing to people to change their behaviour. How about the company offering to donate half of the color savings to rotating charities each month, or a gift to the employee group that lowers their color use the most each month, if you can monitor that. As I stated yesterday, it seems to me some type of pop up message suggesting switching to black and white per print job may work. You probably need to explain to the personnel at your offices that even if the print has no color on it, if it is designated as a color print by the printer, the cost per page is ten times higher. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ steve wrote: Thanks for some of your suggestions. It seems a little frustrating. We have a plan so all supplies and repairs are paid for. However we pay some fraction of a cent for b/w and 10 cents for color. In a month b/w is 166 dollars and color is 1900. People print color because they can or are too ignorant to not do it. I Have read much of the canon manual. And they purposly make it hard to limit color. Anyway I will persever. thank.s |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want it to?
Oh my God- He TOP POSTED Again!
"measekite" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:12:29 -0800, Arthur Entlich wrote: He TOP POSTED Again Considering how cheap even fairly good networking business black and white laser printers are these days, I would agree with Woody, and offer two printer, one for Black and white prints, one for color. However, make sure the cost of consumables on the black and white printer aren't ridiculous. Some less costly B&W laser printers may make up for the cost by charging you so much for the refill toner that it will end up close to ten cents a copy anyway. On the server, you may be able to place a warning when the color printer is selected as part of the printer "name" or some type of pop up window that says something like: This printer is only to be used for intended color printing, otherwise please select printer X for black and white output. Then send out an email notice to all employees telling them they will be docked bonus pay if they print unnecessary color output ;-) Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Woody wrote: You can't. Put in a Laser black only for them to use and restrict who uses the color printer. "steve" wrote in message ... We have a couple of Canon Color Imagerunner c3380/C2880 printers. When we print black and white it costs us about a cent. When we colour its about 10 cents. To reduce costs we want to slow people down from printing color. We use active directories, and often several people log onto one computer. If a person is logged in I can go to preferences in the printer window and choose black and white as the default for their setting rather than auto, which would make all their copies print b/w unless they specifically choose colour. But this means I have to do this on 100 computers. Seems a bit much. Is there a Global way to change peoples computers so that they can be set automatically to print black and white, unless they specifically choose Colour. Does any one know this printer I have listed above, and know how to do this. Or is there a script that can be written to automatically do this on everyones comptuer say when they log in. I DONT want to stop people I just want to globally change things to b/w unless they specifically choose colour. Regards |
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How can I stop a printer from printing colour unless I want itto?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:26:52 -0800, Arthur Entlich wrote:
If I understand correctly, this printer is on contract and so you pay What you need to understand is that you need to get your nose from up in the air and not top post. "per push" as it is referred to, with a set price for each page that goes through, regardless of the actual cost of consumables. You may need to "human engineer" a solution, by appealing to people to change their behaviour. How about the company offering to donate half of the color savings to rotating charities each month, or a gift to the employee group that lowers their color use the most each month, if you can monitor that. As I stated yesterday, it seems to me some type of pop up message suggesting switching to black and white per print job may work. You probably need to explain to the personnel at your offices that even if the print has no color on it, if it is designated as a color print by the printer, the cost per page is ten times higher. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ steve wrote: Thanks for some of your suggestions. It seems a little frustrating. We have a plan so all supplies and repairs are paid for. However we pay some fraction of a cent for b/w and 10 cents for color. In a month b/w is 166 dollars and color is 1900. People print color because they can or are too ignorant to not do it. I Have read much of the canon manual. And they purposly make it hard to limit color. Anyway I will persever. thank.s |
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