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Old June 7th 05, 06:16 AM
measekite
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:-P

Frank wrote:

measekite wrote:



Gees, it does not take a rocket scientist to know the game plan of
the automobile manufacturers. The first clue is that for many auto
models the user can buy a NEW car for less than he could be a new set
of parts.

HAHAHAHA



Ha...you really are that stupid, aren't you?
Frank

  #82  
Old June 7th 05, 06:23 AM
Burt
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More smut from Measekite.

"measekite" wrote in message
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Frank wrote:

measekite wrote:



Frank wrote:

measekite wrote:



Frank wrote:

measekite wrote:

Frank








You seem well acquainted with that stuff SHMUCK :-D






Your personality (or lack thereof) is a dead give away. :-P
Frank






Why is your tongue brown. Are you an AssEater




Your printer heads have apparently become clogged with those expensive,
overpriced, OEM inks that you exclusively use in the one lone printer
you own because my tongue is red.
No bozos!
Frankie Crankie


You're now slamming yourself? Great idea and a very smooth move
meser****! Nice that you finally recognized yourself for the fool you
really act like.
Thanks, saves us all the time and energy.
Frankie EAT ME RAW Crankie



  #83  
Old June 7th 05, 06:27 AM
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measekite wrote:


Michael Johnson, PE wrote:

Nelson wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
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PC Medic wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...


Frank wrote:


measekite wrote:



Canon thinks people like you are fools.




Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep their
execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times as
much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to start
discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries plus
raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every year.
Fool!
Frank



Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that keeps
the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful to them.
Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND inexpensive
ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys, and promotes the
use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.




I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.



Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math addition
problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost of printers
low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow inks. Canon
thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and a loyal OEM buyer
of inks, isn't it.




A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the game
plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is that for
many printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less than he
could buy a set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop now. I
don't want to make that homework assignment too easy.




Gees, it does not take a rocket scientist to know the game plan of the
automobile manufacturers. The first clue is that for many auto models
the user can buy a NEW car for less than he could be a new set of parts.


It may take a rocket scientist to figure out the point you're trying to
make.
  #84  
Old June 7th 05, 11:39 AM
PC Medic
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"Frank" wrote in message
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PC Medic wrote:



I personally would prefer to pass some business to the reputable online
SOHO business than to a large conglomerate greed factory such as Wally
World!

Me too but I don't know of any SOHO's who sell ink and printers online.
Do you?
Frank


Depends on your definition of SOHO, I refer to a small home based or startup
business in which case they are out there.




  #85  
Old June 7th 05, 11:47 AM
PC Medic
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"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...
Nelson wrote:
"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
:
PC Medic wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...


Frank wrote:


measekite wrote:



Canon thinks people like you are fools.


Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep their
execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times as
much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to start
discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries plus
raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every year.
Fool!
Frank

Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that keeps
the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful to them.
Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND inexpensive
ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys, and promotes the
use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.


I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.

Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math addition
problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost of printers
low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow inks. Canon
thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and a loyal OEM buyer
of inks, isn't it.


A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the game
plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is that for many
printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less than he could buy a
set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop now. I don't want to
make that homework assignment too easy.


And any one with business knowledge is quite aware that what may seem to be
the most obvious is sometimes far from the facts.
Hardware is reaching its limitation where printers are concerned. Ink
formulation improvements need to catch up to match possible hardware
improvements which means R&D costs shift.


  #86  
Old June 7th 05, 12:29 PM
Nelson
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"PC Medic" wrote in
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"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...
Nelson wrote:
"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
:
PC Medic wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...


Frank wrote:


measekite wrote:



Canon thinks people like you are fools.


Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep
their execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times
as much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to
start discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries
plus raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every
year. Fool!
Frank

Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that
keeps the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful
to them. Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND
inexpensive ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys,
and promotes the use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.



I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.

Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math
addition problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost
of printers low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow
inks. Canon thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and
a loyal OEM buyer of inks, isn't it.


A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the
game plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is
that for many printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less
than he could buy a set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop
now. I don't want to make that homework assignment too easy.


And any one with business knowledge is quite aware that what may seem
to be the most obvious is sometimes far from the facts.
Hardware is reaching its limitation where printers are concerned. Ink
formulation improvements need to catch up to match possible hardware
improvements which means R&D costs shift.





Need I remind you that 2 sets of refills costs more than a new iP4000.

Translated, one purchased set of refills cancells the free set that
comes with a new printer. Now the second purchased set costs more than
the printer! So consider THAT your first lesson in business knowledge.

Add on question: Does it cost you more than half the cost of a new
vehicule to fill it with gas to make it move? Should it be any
different with ink? Is ink 20 times more expensive to manufacture?

Automobile R&D & advertising is far costlier than the few guys working
on your next printer. I read that OEM ink sales are in the billions
annually.

And, Canon printheads are designed to fail (why else the easy take out
feature), therefore becoming a new source on revenue for Canon. A less
than $5 part that brings in close to $100 for Canon. A cash grab all
around, nothing less.

Nelson
  #87  
Old June 7th 05, 03:03 PM
Frank
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PC Medic wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message
news:C%5pe.1755$xr.632@fed1read05...

PC Medic wrote:



I personally would prefer to pass some business to the reputable online
SOHO business than to a large conglomerate greed factory such as Wally
World!


Me too but I don't know of any SOHO's who sell ink and printers online.
Do you?
Frank



Depends on your definition of SOHO, I refer to a small home based or startup
business in which case they are out there.




Exactly what I'm referring to. SOHO=Small Office Home Office.
Again, I don't know of any in the U.S. who sell printers/inks.
Do you?
Thanks.
Frank
  #88  
Old June 7th 05, 04:20 PM
Michael Johnson, PE
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PC Medic wrote:
"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...

Nelson wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
:

PC Medic wrote:


"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...



Frank wrote:



measekite wrote:




Canon thinks people like you are fools.


Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep their
execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times as
much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to start
discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries plus
raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every year.
Fool!
Frank

Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that keeps
the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful to them.
Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND inexpensive
ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys, and promotes the
use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.


I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.

Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math addition
problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost of printers
low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow inks. Canon
thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and a loyal OEM buyer
of inks, isn't it.


A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the game
plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is that for many
printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less than he could buy a
set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop now. I don't want to
make that homework assignment too easy.



And any one with business knowledge is quite aware that what may seem to be
the most obvious is sometimes far from the facts.
Hardware is reaching its limitation where printers are concerned. Ink
formulation improvements need to catch up to match possible hardware
improvements which means R&D costs shift.


I'll make this real simple. What costs Canon more to manufacture, a
printer or a set of ink cartridges? Now if you say the printer then we
just need to stop the discussion here because you are blatantly ignoring
reality. It is absolutely absurd that Canon charges the same for two
sets of cartridges as it does for an iP4000 printer. If Ford charged
the same for two tanks of their brand of gasoline as you paid for the
car we would all be outraged and buy gas from a third party supplier and
gladly pay $2.00/gallon.

Now for my original point, when people like measekite buy OEM ink it
intices Canon to sell the printers that use the ink at a reduced cost in
order to maximize their mega-profits on ink sells. If the vast majority
of us used third party ink they would need to raise the price of their
printers to keep profits up. I can't explain this any simpler than
this. Almost everyone, except apparently you and measekite, knows
Canon, Lexmark, Epson etc. have been practicing this business model for
years and years. So as I said, all you OEM ink buyers please don't
stop. I've grown accustomed to purchasing inexpensive inkjet printers.
  #89  
Old June 7th 05, 05:42 PM
Michael Johnson, PE
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Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
PC Medic wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...

Nelson wrote:

"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
:

PC Medic wrote:


"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...



Frank wrote:



measekite wrote:




Canon thinks people like you are fools.



Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep
their
execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times as
much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to start
discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries plus
raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every year.
Fool!
Frank


Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that
keeps
the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful to them.
Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND inexpensive
ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys, and promotes the
use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.



I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.


Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math addition
problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost of printers
low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow inks. Canon
thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and a loyal OEM buyer
of inks, isn't it.


A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the
game plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is
that for many printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less
than he could buy a set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop
now. I don't want to make that homework assignment too easy.




And any one with business knowledge is quite aware that what may seem
to be the most obvious is sometimes far from the facts.
Hardware is reaching its limitation where printers are concerned. Ink
formulation improvements need to catch up to match possible hardware
improvements which means R&D costs shift.



I'll make this real simple. What costs Canon more to manufacture, a
printer or a set of ink cartridges? Now if you say the printer then we
just need to stop the discussion here because you are blatantly ignoring
reality.


I meant to say the if you think the ink cartridges cost more to manufacture.
  #90  
Old June 7th 05, 06:34 PM
measekite
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Nelson wrote:

"PC Medic" wrote in
news:RWepe.86720$yV4.85465@okepread03:



"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...


Nelson wrote:


"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in
:


PC Medic wrote:



"Michael Johnson, PE" wrote in message
...




Frank wrote:




measekite wrote:





Canon thinks people like you are fools.


Yon may think that Canon thinks people like Burt et al are fools.
But as usual you'd be dead wrong.
"Think" is operative word here.
For sure, Canon KNOWS that people like you are the real fools who
are willing to pay for their very overpriced OEM inks and keep
their execs in very high paying salaries and great bonuses.
They depends on fools like you.
Without fools like you, who are willing to pay at least 4 times
as much for their OEM inks as compared to 3rd's, they'd have to
start discounting their overpriced OEM inks, or take a pay cut.
But as long as there are fools like you, those great salaries
plus raises and bonuses just keep on coming.
I do hope they send you a wonderful Xmas thank you card every
year. Fool!
Frank


Also, let's not forget that it's the people buying OEM ink that
keeps the price of inkjet printers low. For that, I am greatful
to them. Under the current senario I get inexpensive printers AND
inexpensive ink. This is why I don't mind that measekite buys,
and promotes the use of, OEM ink. It's good for my bank account.



I would love to here the logic you base that statement on.


Consider it your homework assignment to figure it out.




The best line of the night! PCMedic seems to be having math
addition problems. I too thank Measekite for helping keep the cost
of printers low by his ever continuing purchases of the OEM cash cow
inks. Canon thanks him too. It's a fine line between a sucker and
a loyal OEM buyer of inks, isn't it.


A very fine line. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the
game plan of the inkjet printer manufacturers. The first clue is
that for many printer models the user can buy a NEW printer for less
than he could buy a set of replacement cartridges. I had better stop
now. I don't want to make that homework assignment too easy.


And any one with business knowledge is quite aware that what may seem
to be the most obvious is sometimes far from the facts.
Hardware is reaching its limitation where printers are concerned. Ink
formulation improvements need to catch up to match possible hardware
improvements which means R&D costs shift.







Need I remind you that 2 sets of refills costs more than a new iP4000.

Translated, one purchased set of refills cancells the free set that
comes with a new printer. Now the second purchased set costs more than
the printer! So consider THAT your first lesson in business knowledge.

Add on question: Does it cost you more than half the cost of a new
vehicule to fill it with gas to make it move? Should it be any
different with ink? Is ink 20 times more expensive to manufacture?

Automobile R&D & advertising is far costlier than the few guys working
on your next printer. I read that OEM ink sales are in the billions
annually.

And, Canon printheads are designed to fail


Yes so in that logic HP is even worse. They are designed to be thrown
away when the cart runs out of ink.

(why else the easy take out
feature), therefore becoming a new source on revenue for Canon. A less
than $5 part that brings in close to $100 for Canon. A cash grab all
around, nothing less.

Nelson


 




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