When will I *need* a Directx 9 card?

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:57:39 +0000, Andrew spamtrap@localhost wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:46:03 +0000, Mark Morrison
wrote:

All GeForce cards have T&L in hardware.

Sure ?

Yes thanks, I just won the same dull argument in another thread in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia

Fair enough.

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"Max Longman" wrote in message ...


That's easy, when your games are too slow to play.


Right. But I guess my question is what games will probably be too slow
to play on a GeForce 4 Ti 4200?

I'm considering getting a Radeon 9700 Pro right now because I don't
see any new DirectX 9 cards coming out in the next 6-8 months. Nvidia
just put out their GeForce 5700 and ATI just released the 9600 XT.
Nothing really new in either of those cards, so is that it for our
choices for awhile?

On 23 Nov 2003 12:27:35 -0800, (John)
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:

Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any
fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use
Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I
play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200).

Are we talking 3-4 months maybe?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an
upgrade.

thanks.

If you want to turn on FSAA and AF in any of the latest games, you
-will- need a -powerful- dx9 card, if only for the speed.


Gibs When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament
it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent",
in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"

"Geronimo_work" wrote in message ...
Max Longman wrote:
"John" wrote in message
om...
Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any
fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use
Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I
play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200).

Are we talking 3-4 months maybe?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an
upgrade.

That's easy, when your games are too slow to play.

what about 9500 (saphire) moded to 9700. i'm planning to buy this card this
week. is it going to be fast enough for some time, or HL2 and DoomIII will
require a faster one. is it a good card for 165$. thanks.


The 9500 is very fast... the non pro has only 4 pipelines ( what a
shame ) but after a SUCCESFULL mod you should have 8 pipelines
working, change of succesfull mod. 50%

If you are smart, you buy directly an 9700 Pro, no problems..no pain!

"Mark Morrison" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:57:39 +0000, Andrew spamtrap@localhost wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:46:03 +0000, Mark Morrison
wrote:

All GeForce cards have T&L in hardware.

Sure ?

Yes thanks, I just won the same dull argument in another thread in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia

Fair enough.



Geforce 3 were the first with pixel shaders weren't they?

"Mark Morrison" wrote in message
...


On Friday I say a graphics card with 256mb of onboard memory for
£100...

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Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes !
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
And what's with all the carrots ?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !

They show "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on BBC ?

How does the portrayal of "Giles", "Spike", and "The Council"
go over, over there?

Luck;
Ken

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:46:09 -0000, "Les" wrote:


"Mark Morrison" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:57:39 +0000, Andrew spamtrap@localhost wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:46:03 +0000, Mark Morrison
wrote:

All GeForce cards have T&L in hardware.

Sure ?

Yes thanks, I just won the same dull argument in another thread in
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia

Fair enough.



Geforce 3 were the first with pixel shaders weren't they?

Possibly - I know they introduced something that the first 2 didn't,
but thought it was T&L in hardware.

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Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes !
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
And what's with all the carrots ?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !

Geforce 3 were the first with pixel shaders weren't they?

Possibly - I know they introduced something that the first 2 didn't,
but thought it was T&L in hardware.

GF3 was the first with *programmable* T&L, ie, a system that can handle
jointed characters and/or things that move or bend, such as branches and
leaves, grass, hair etc etc. All GF-series cards have had T&L in hardware
though.

Dark Avenger wrote:
"Geronimo_work" wrote in
message ...
Max Longman wrote:
"John" wrote in message
om...
Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have
any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2
use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal
if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti
4200).

Are we talking 3-4 months maybe?

I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an
upgrade.

That's easy, when your games are too slow to play.

what about 9500 (saphire) moded to 9700. i'm planning to buy this
card this week. is it going to be fast enough for some time, or HL2
and DoomIII will require a faster one. is it a good card for 165$.
thanks.


The 9500 is very fast... the non pro has only 4 pipelines ( what a
shame ) but after a SUCCESFULL mod you should have 8 pipelines
working, change of succesfull mod. 50%

If you are smart, you buy directly an 9700 Pro, no problems..no pain!

the card i'm planning to buy is 100% working as 9700 because the guy tryed
and told me that it works.

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:53:59 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
wrote:

They show "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on BBC ?

Yeah, although they're about a year behind - we're about 7 or 8 eps
into the last Season.

sniff

How does the portrayal of "Giles", "Spike", and "The Council"
go over, over there?

Pretty good. Giles *is* English, after all (or ASH is) and I also
thought the guy who plays Westley was English, until I saw him in a
'beind the scenes' thing. :-O

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Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes !
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
And what's with all the carrots ?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !