Ram

Hi Folks,

Have been playing about with PC's for 25 years just as a hobby, and am
completely addicted. I want to buy the Athlon 64 FX53, am ready to order.
One thing is stopping me and I hope you can help. I haven't a clue what
registered ram is? It say's in most reviews of the Evesham PC the firm of
choice, that the registered ram is slow, so, please can you tell me, does
this defeat the object of playing games for example. I would have my Choice
of a very fast CPU fast hard drive etc, but the ram would bring speed down
to say a XP 2000, do you think Rambus ram could be used with this
motherboard, just what the eck is registered ram and why is it slow?
Thanks!!
Paul.

This provides a nice description.

http://www.docmemory.com/page/news/s...5795186&num=99


"Paul Bassman" wrote in message
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Hi Folks,

Have been playing about with PC's for 25 years just as a hobby, and am
completely addicted. I want to buy the Athlon 64 FX53, am ready to order.
One thing is stopping me and I hope you can help. I haven't a clue what
registered ram is? It say's in most reviews of the Evesham PC the firm of
choice, that the registered ram is slow, so, please can you tell me, does
this defeat the object of playing games for example. I would have my
Choice
of a very fast CPU fast hard drive etc, but the ram would bring speed down
to say a XP 2000, do you think Rambus ram could be used with this
motherboard, just what the eck is registered ram and why is it slow?
Thanks!!
Paul.

Tim Tatar wrote:

This provides a nice description.

http://www.docmemory.com/page/news/s...5795186&num=99



Mmmmm... can`t seem to get to any of that site from here all 404`s

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Mark
Iligitimi Non Carborundum!
Twixt hill and high water, N.Wales, UK

"Paul Bassman" wrote in message
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| Hi Folks,
|
| Have been playing about with PC's for 25 years just as a hobby, and am
| completely addicted. I want to buy the Athlon 64 FX53, am ready to order.
| One thing is stopping me and I hope you can help. I haven't a clue what
| registered ram is? It say's in most reviews of the Evesham PC the firm of
| choice, that the registered ram is slow, so, please can you tell me, does
| this defeat the object of playing games for example. I would have my
Choice
| of a very fast CPU fast hard drive etc, but the ram would bring speed down
| to say a XP 2000, do you think Rambus ram could be used with this
| motherboard, just what the eck is registered ram and why is it slow?
| Thanks!!
| Paul.
|

Ever heard of ECC ram?

"Jason Cothran" wrote in
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"Paul Bassman" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks,

Have been playing about with PC's for 25 years just as a hobby, and
am completely addicted. I want to buy the Athlon 64 FX53, am ready to
order. One thing is stopping me and I hope you can help. I haven't a
clue what registered ram is? It say's in most reviews of the Evesham
PC the firm of choice, that the registered ram is slow, so, please
can you tell me, does this defeat the object of playing games for
example. I would have my Choice of a very fast CPU fast hard drive
etc, but the ram would bring speed down to say a XP 2000, do you
think Rambus ram could be used with this motherboard, just what the
eck is registered ram and why is it slow? Thanks!!
Paul.


Ever heard of ECC ram?

ECC != registered

You can get memory in four flavors:
* unbuffered
* unbuffered ECC
* registered
* registered ECC

Registered modules have additional components (registers) placed between
the incoming address and control information and the SDRAM components.
These modules are typically used in Servers due to their added
reliability (they place much less of an electrical load on the memory
controller and therefore make it possible to have as many as 16 or 32
modules in a large system).

--
Peter Strömberg
C2K2 C2K3 ISCCIV02 ISCCIV03

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:40:30 +0000, Peter Strömberg wrote:

ECC != registered

You can get memory in four flavors:
* unbuffered
* unbuffered ECC
* registered
* registered ECC

I don't remember ever seeing registered no parity RAM. I'm not saying it
isn't possible, but I'd be interested in seeing a URL for info on some.

--
Ian.

EOM

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:35:19 +0100, Ian Hastie wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:40:30 +0000, Peter Strömberg wrote:

ECC != registered

You can get memory in four flavors:
* unbuffered
* unbuffered ECC
* registered
* registered ECC

I don't remember ever seeing registered no parity RAM. I'm not saying it
isn't possible, but I'd be interested in seeing a URL for info on some.

You won't find it. Registered RAM is used in servers, no one in their
right mind would put non-ECC RAM into a server.

"Peter Strömberg" wrote in message
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| "Jason Cothran" wrote in
| :
|
| "Paul Bassman" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Folks,
|
| Have been playing about with PC's for 25 years just as a hobby, and
| am completely addicted. I want to buy the Athlon 64 FX53, am ready to
| order. One thing is stopping me and I hope you can help. I haven't a
| clue what registered ram is? It say's in most reviews of the Evesham
| PC the firm of choice, that the registered ram is slow, so, please
| can you tell me, does this defeat the object of playing games for
| example. I would have my Choice of a very fast CPU fast hard drive
| etc, but the ram would bring speed down to say a XP 2000, do you
| think Rambus ram could be used with this motherboard, just what the
| eck is registered ram and why is it slow? Thanks!!
| Paul.
|
|
| Ever heard of ECC ram?
|
| ECC != registered
|
| You can get memory in four flavors:
| * unbuffered
| * unbuffered ECC
| * registered
| * registered ECC
|

Yes, but unbuffered ECC is very very hard to find and likely more expensive
(due to its rarity) than registered ECC. 99% of the time, when you see ECC
ram it is registered.

"Jason" == Jason Cothran writes:

Jason Yes, but unbuffered ECC is very very hard to find and likely
Jason more expensive (due to its rarity) than registered ECC. 99% of
Jason the time, when you see ECC ram it is registered.

Not true at all. Kingston makes unbuffered DDR 3200 ECC ram that costs
less or about the same price as non-ECC ram.

Really some of the super non-ECC DDR ram with the cool expansion
coolers is really expensive ;-). However, you probably won't see much
performance difference but you your system will really look cool!

Most systems use non-ECC ram.

Does it really make much difference these days weather you use ECC or
non-ECC. That's if your system can use both?

Later,

Alan

"Post Replies Here Please" wrote in message
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| "Jason" == Jason Cothran writes:
|
| Jason Yes, but unbuffered ECC is very very hard to find and likely
| Jason more expensive (due to its rarity) than registered ECC. 99% of
| Jason the time, when you see ECC ram it is registered.
|
| Not true at all. Kingston makes unbuffered DDR 3200 ECC ram that costs
| less or about the same price as non-ECC ram.
|

I guess I stand corrected then, but I have never seen any at any of the my
wholesalers, so I assumed it wasn't made in mass quantities.