TV Wonder for painless TV recording?

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine. Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua

Mitchua wrote:

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine. Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

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MrToad

"MrToad" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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Mitchua wrote:

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video
recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable
box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder
give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a
must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine.
Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

--
MrToad

I'm really just looking for the card since most come with software to do the
recording. I notice that Snapstream uses the Hauppauge cards though. I've
heard good things about them. Better than the ATI WOnder?

--Mitchua

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:05:29 GMT, "Mitchua" wrote:

"MrToad" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Mitchua wrote:

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video
recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable
box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder
give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a
must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine.
Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

--
MrToad

I'm really just looking for the card since most come with software to do the
recording. I notice that Snapstream uses the Hauppauge cards though. I've
heard good things about them. Better than the ATI WOnder?

--Mitchua


I've never owned an ATI Wonder, but have a couple of AIW and prefer my
Leadtek Winfast Dlx TV2000XP :
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ion=14-122-132


Dave

"kony" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:05:29 GMT, "Mitchua" wrote:

"MrToad" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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Mitchua wrote:

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video
recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it
to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable
box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV
Wonder
give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't
a
must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine.
Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

--
MrToad

I'm really just looking for the card since most come with software to do
the
recording. I notice that Snapstream uses the Hauppauge cards though.
I've
heard good things about them. Better than the ATI WOnder?

--Mitchua


I've never owned an ATI Wonder, but have a couple of AIW and prefer my
Leadtek Winfast Dlx TV2000XP :
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ion=14-122-132


Dave
Wow that's cheap on newegg. Wish I lived in the States :-)

--Mitchua (a Canadian)

MrToad nospam@nospam wrote in message ...
Mitchua wrote:

I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video recorder
for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable box (I
know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder give
me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a must
and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine. Pros
and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

I was under the impression that the analog tuner cards all converted
to mpeg2 for recording. I'm using a digital card, not for the extra
channels (mind you, BBC3 had City on last night), but because the
signal is already mpeg2 and does not need compressing for recording
purposes. It's a good bet that the broadcasters have got better mpeg
encoders than a cheap analog TV card.

On 25 Sep 2003 12:51:34 -0700, (Wideass) wrote:


I was under the impression that the analog tuner cards all converted
to mpeg2 for recording.

No, only professional-series cards do. The typical PC card uses
software, host-processed codecs, so it can save captures in any format
you want, providing you have the appropriate codec and the software
supports it. For example, I usually capture in Divx unless I want to
edit it later.

I'm using a digital card, not for the extra
channels (mind you, BBC3 had City on last night), but because the
signal is already mpeg2 and does not need compressing for recording
purposes.

Are you sure you aren't REcompressing it to MPEG2?


It's a good bet that the broadcasters have got better mpeg
encoders than a cheap analog TV card.

There's no bet to it, a PC can record (encode) in better OR worst MPEG
quality than the original broadcast, depending on the parameters set
by the program and/or user. One of the primary parameters is
bitrate, and that's where the broadcast has a limitation.

Now, better quality doesn't mean the PC capture is higher quality
than the transmission of course, which is impossible, but does mean
that less artifacts are introduced from the PC re-encoding, and if the
original broadcast had been done in that higher quality, would've been
even better.


Dave

Mitchua wrote:

"MrToad" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...

Mitchua wrote:


I'm looking for a cheap TV capture card to work as a digital video

recorder

for my digital cable e.g. I know I'm going to miss a show so I set it to
record. Forgetting for the moment the challenge of the digital cable

box (I

know, I know...I'd only get the analog channels), will an ATI TV Wonder

give

me reasonably high quality? I have 120GB so MPEG2 compression isn't a

must

and I have an Athlon Xp 1800+ w/ 512MB of RAM so it should run fine.

Pros

and cons of USB vs. PCI?

I already have a firewire card I use to capture video from my digital
camcorder. Can you buy an RCA-to-firewire attachment?

Thanks a lot,
Mitchua



Take a look here for a better solution:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,109098,00.asp

--
MrToad


I'm really just looking for the card since most come with software to do the
recording. I notice that Snapstream uses the Hauppauge cards though. I've
heard good things about them. Better than the ATI WOnder?

--Mitchua



I believe so yes, they are dedicated capture cards, not trying to "do it
all".
Google for reviews...

--
MrToad