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  #1  
Old August 28th 03, 02:52 PM
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Default Tomb Raider AOD benches: Bad news for Nvidia

http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/traod_dx9perf/

This an article at Beyond 3d talking about using the game Tomb Raider: Angel
of Darkness as a benchmark. I haven't played the game or demo, but
supposedly the game itself sucks. However, the game engine is supposedly
the first DX9 title available and is state of the art. In the article, they
performed tests between the latest ATi and Nvidia boards. The Nvidia cards,
in this DX9 benchmark, did bad. Very bad. This article is a very good read
if you are interested.

Something interesting to add to this though. Supposedly, someone wrote a
letter to Valve asking them how they felt the DX9 performance of Half-Life 2
would be on the cards. The response they got back was that the performance
of HL2 on the ATi cards and Nvidia cards would be similar to the results
obtained in the Beyond3d article. You can read it at:

http://www.3dgpu.com/modules/news/ar...hp?storyid=315

If this is true, this shows how bad Nvidia's new cards are. No wonder
Nvidia dropped out of the Futuremark program. Nvidia saw how bad their
cards were going to be at Dx9 and pulled out of their program to cover their
asses. "Benchmarks aren't important, it's the games that matter!!" Yeah,
whatever con artists. Congrats Nvidia, you were correct. The games are
comming out and they are indeed showing they matter, big time.

If this is an indication of how all Dx9 games will run on the FX line of vid
cards, I feel sorry for people who bought these cards. They were ripped
off. Bad.

I was looking to replace my Nvidia card not long ago. I was fed up with
Nvidia's driver "optimizations", saw how good the new ATi cards were, so I
bought a 9800 Pro. I'm feeling better and better about that decision
everyday.

Chris Smith


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Old August 28th 03, 04:52 PM
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What about the people that are stuck with Nvidia cause they got no cash.
Help me!

"who be dat?" wrote in message
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http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/traod_dx9perf/

This an article at Beyond 3d talking about using the game Tomb Raider:

Angel
of Darkness as a benchmark. I haven't played the game or demo, but
supposedly the game itself sucks. However, the game engine is supposedly
the first DX9 title available and is state of the art. In the article,

they
performed tests between the latest ATi and Nvidia boards. The Nvidia

cards,
in this DX9 benchmark, did bad. Very bad. This article is a very good

read
if you are interested.

Something interesting to add to this though. Supposedly, someone wrote a
letter to Valve asking them how they felt the DX9 performance of Half-Life

2
would be on the cards. The response they got back was that the

performance
of HL2 on the ATi cards and Nvidia cards would be similar to the results
obtained in the Beyond3d article. You can read it at:

http://www.3dgpu.com/modules/news/ar...hp?storyid=315

If this is true, this shows how bad Nvidia's new cards are. No wonder
Nvidia dropped out of the Futuremark program. Nvidia saw how bad their
cards were going to be at Dx9 and pulled out of their program to cover

their
asses. "Benchmarks aren't important, it's the games that matter!!" Yeah,
whatever con artists. Congrats Nvidia, you were correct. The games are
comming out and they are indeed showing they matter, big time.

If this is an indication of how all Dx9 games will run on the FX line of

vid
cards, I feel sorry for people who bought these cards. They were ripped
off. Bad.

I was looking to replace my Nvidia card not long ago. I was fed up with
Nvidia's driver "optimizations", saw how good the new ATi cards were, so I
bought a 9800 Pro. I'm feeling better and better about that decision
everyday.

Chris Smith




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Old August 28th 03, 06:08 PM
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snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team


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Old August 29th 03, 05:26 PM
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Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get great
performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27 then the game
isn't worth buying.

--
Andrew

"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team




  #5  
Old August 29th 03, 10:24 PM
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I guess there won't ever be a game worth buying, ever again then. Might as
well slap a Voodoo Banshee in your box.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get great
performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27 then the
game isn't worth buying.


"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


  #6  
Old August 29th 03, 11:21 PM
Andrew Stirling
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That statement makes no sense. Are you suggesting that it's acceptable to
release a game which does not produce good performance on a machine which
contains the fastest (or as near as makes no difference) cpu possible at the
time of release on the fastest (or 2nd fastest) graphics card available?
My guess is that it'll run on my system just fine.

--
Andrew

"Strontium" wrote in message
...
I guess there won't ever be a game worth buying, ever again then. Might

as
well slap a Voodoo Banshee in your box.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get great
performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27 then the
game isn't worth buying.


"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit




  #7  
Old August 29th 03, 11:42 PM
Strontium
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Game vendors will release whatever the Hell they want. Whether it's
accepable, or not, is up to the individual. All we, as consumers, can do is
decide what we want to play and make sure that our hardware is up to snuff.
Your statement that 'because that game will not perform greatly on the card
you have makes the game not worth buying' seems to make less sense than my
statement. If you don't want to play it, don't. Just don't go around
saying games suck, because you bought a ****ty card based on hype.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

That statement makes no sense. Are you suggesting that it's
acceptable to release a game which does not produce good performance
on a machine which contains the fastest (or as near as makes no
difference) cpu possible at the time of release on the fastest (or
2nd fastest) graphics card available?
My guess is that it'll run on my system just fine.


"Strontium" wrote in message
...
I guess there won't ever be a game worth buying, ever again then.
Might as well slap a Voodoo Banshee in your box.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get
great performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27
then the game isn't worth buying.


"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


  #8  
Old August 30th 03, 12:08 AM
Andrew Stirling
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Didn't say it would suck... I said it wasn't worth buying - are you
suggesting that I should buy a game which doesn't perform well on my
system??. Like I said though...I fully expect it to perform very well on my
machine. Now kindly lay off the insults until you learn to read ...****face.

--
Andrew

"Strontium" wrote in message
...
Game vendors will release whatever the Hell they want. Whether it's
accepable, or not, is up to the individual. All we, as consumers, can do

is
decide what we want to play and make sure that our hardware is up to

snuff.
Your statement that 'because that game will not perform greatly on the

card
you have makes the game not worth buying' seems to make less sense than my
statement. If you don't want to play it, don't. Just don't go around
saying games suck, because you bought a ****ty card based on hype.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

That statement makes no sense. Are you suggesting that it's
acceptable to release a game which does not produce good performance
on a machine which contains the fastest (or as near as makes no
difference) cpu possible at the time of release on the fastest (or
2nd fastest) graphics card available?
My guess is that it'll run on my system just fine.


"Strontium" wrote in message
...
I guess there won't ever be a game worth buying, ever again then.
Might as well slap a Voodoo Banshee in your box.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get
great performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27
then the game isn't worth buying.


"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit




  #9  
Old August 30th 03, 12:52 AM
Strontium
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I think you're the one that needs to learn reading comprehension, dillweed.
Stop getting your panties in a knot just because you have a $400 piece of
**** that sucks wrt FSAA and AF...but, your bitterness is understandable.
Cya ****head.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Didn't say it would suck... I said it wasn't worth buying - are you
suggesting that I should buy a game which doesn't perform well on my
system??. Like I said though...I fully expect it to perform very well
on my machine. Now kindly lay off the insults until you learn to read
...****face.


"Strontium" wrote in message
...
Game vendors will release whatever the Hell they want. Whether it's
accepable, or not, is up to the individual. All we, as consumers,
can do is decide what we want to play and make sure that our
hardware is up to snuff. Your statement that 'because that game will
not perform greatly on the card you have makes the game not worth
buying' seems to make less sense than my statement. If you don't
want to play it, don't. Just don't go around saying games suck,
because you bought a ****ty card based on hype.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

That statement makes no sense. Are you suggesting that it's
acceptable to release a game which does not produce good performance
on a machine which contains the fastest (or as near as makes no
difference) cpu possible at the time of release on the fastest (or
2nd fastest) graphics card available?
My guess is that it'll run on my system just fine.


"Strontium" wrote in message
...
I guess there won't ever be a game worth buying, ever again then.
Might as well slap a Voodoo Banshee in your box.

-
Andrew Stirling stood up at show-n-tell, in
, and said:

Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get
great performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27
then the game isn't worth buying.


"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team

--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


  #10  
Old August 30th 03, 06:05 PM
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What a stupid comment. You spend all that money on your vid card (none of
the FX's are cheap as I recall) and you're going to place the blame on the
game and forfiet something?! Stupid...

Chris Smith

"Andrew Stirling" wrote in message
...
Well that may well be the case. But in my opinion if I can't get great
performance on my FX5900Ultra on my P4 3GHz running at 3.27 then the game
isn't worth buying.

--
Andrew

"« Les »" wrote in message
...
snip

Read the reply to the post that is 4th off bottom

http://tinyurl.com/lhpp

remember, this is from HL2 dev team






 




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