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Mike P wrote: uh, no, you have proff that you couldn't do it, Mike "Jeff, you're wrong because I say you are wrong, and for no other reason". As long as you keep commenting from a position of "I have no experience in this matter" and have absolutely NO knowledge, and can only parrot what others have said, I will continue to correct you. So stop falsely accusing me of being a screwup, or don't and this thread will last forever. Jeff B |
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it already has. it's way past time both of you shut the hell up. i should
have known better to ask on usenet... dookie "JB" wrote in message news:3OeMc.171134$XM6.76873@attbi_s53... So stop falsely accusing me of being a screwup, or don't and this thread will last forever. |
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JB wrote:
Yes because it only works on, VIVO equiped cards. I thought that was common knowledge by now? What do you mean, VIVO equiped cards? All x800pros are the same, right? Jeff B VIVO Video In Video Out The Pro's don't have the Video In |
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VIVO Video In Video Out The Pro's don't have the Video In So, since the pro's don't have the video in, and the mod works only on cards with video in, the mod doesn't work on pro's which is exactly what I proved with my experiment. Thanks for clearing that up. Jeff B |
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"JB" wrote in message news:aZtMc.19970$eM2.17509@attbi_s51... VIVO Video In Video Out The Pro's don't have the Video In So, since the pro's don't have the video in, and the mod works only on cards with video in, the mod doesn't work on pro's which is exactly what I proved with my experiment. Thanks for clearing that up. Jeff B There are pros with vivo |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:13:39 GMT, JB wrote:
Actually is is known that ATI is in the progress of redoing the Opengl Dirvers. Betatesters have said this and also people on the Catalyst team. So what are you saying, Doom3 etc. is about to suddenly run great on ATI hardware? So the benchmarks run by ID software mean nothing?? LOL! If ATI knew how to fix the problem, they would have done so long ago. To think otherwise is to set yourself up for a big dissappointment. I am a proud owner of the 9800Pro.... but OpenGL has always been the weakness of the ATI line... which is not a problem when Quake3 is running 200+ fps... They had access to Doom3 for months... What I've seen sofar from BETA enhancements is about 5~8fps faster... which is still NOTHING when the 6800GT is 65fps and the X800Pro is 40fps!! (Important note: unless your CPU is an AMD64 or P4-EE - none of this MATTERS as your CPU is the bottleneck to the GPU) Its a problem when the $300 6800 is up there with the $500 ATI XT version!! I hope ATI does better on the next round... more competition! - - - - - Remember: In the USA - it is dangeroud to draw or write about Heir Bush in a negative way. The police or SS are called, people threaten to kill you. (What country is this again?) - Fahrenheit 9/11 - Unless you see it for yourself, don't call it "a bunch of lies"... that would be unAmerican. - White House blows cover of an undercover agent because her husband said there were no WMD (before the USA started the war) - her job was finding terrorist. God bless the land of the free. Where you can burn the Constitution... Ashcroft does it every day. |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:35:21 GMT, Darthy
wrote: Its a problem when the $300 6800 is up there with the $500 ATI XT version!! In OpenGL, try taking a more overall view of the games market with the vast bulk of games being D3D and things look a lot better for ATI owners. -- Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question. |
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"Darthy" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:13:39 GMT, JB wrote: I am a proud owner of the 9800Pro.... but OpenGL has always been the weakness of the ATI line... which is not a problem when Quake3 is running 200+ fps... They had access to Doom3 for months... What I've seen sofar from BETA enhancements is about 5~8fps faster... which is still NOTHING when the 6800GT is 65fps and the X800Pro is 40fps!! (Important note: unless your CPU is an AMD64 or P4-EE - none of this MATTERS as your CPU is the bottleneck to the GPU) Its a problem when the $300 6800 is up there with the $500 ATI XT version!! I hope ATI does better on the next round... more competition! I guess it's a good thing for ATI that Doom 3 sucks! That, and the fact that 98% of the PC games on the market use D3D instead of OpenGL... |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:33:07 GMT "Enormous Genitals" meeped :
That, and the fact that 98% of the PC games on the market use D3D instead of OpenGL... I wonder what the ratio is when you look at online players. With RTCW, Enemy Territory, Quake 3, Call of Duty and optional with Half Life mods..OpenGL has a stronger online presence than it may appear at first glance. -- ) ___ ______ (__/_____) /) (, / ) / __ _ (/ _ /---( __ _/_ _ / (_(_/ (_(__/ )_(_(_ ) / ____)(_(_/ (_(__/_)_ (______) (_/ ( |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:33:07 GMT, "Enormous Genitals"
wrote: "Darthy" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:13:39 GMT, JB wrote: I hope ATI does better on the next round... more competition! I guess it's a good thing for ATI that Doom 3 sucks! That, and the fact that 98% of the PC games on the market use D3D instead of OpenGL... Theres a lot more OpenGL than you think... Castle Wolfenstien Battlefield 1942 Quake3 Doom3 Metal of Honor Star Wars Jedi series... and more... With the new HalfLife2 engine, Nvidia & ATI are neck and neck... - - - - - Remember: In the USA - it is dangeroud to draw or write about Heir Bush in a negative way. The police or SS are called, people threaten to kill you. (What country is this again?) - Fahrenheit 9/11 - Unless you see it for yourself, don't call it "a bunch of lies"... that would be unAmerican. - White House blows cover of an undercover agent because her husband said there were no WMD (before the USA started the war) - her job was finding terrorist. God bless the land of the free. Where you can burn the Constitution... Ashcroft does it every day. |
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