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HELP NEEDED BSOD
Help needed!!!!!!!!!
I have an intermittent crashing problem. It roughly happens when I start to stretch the machine doing this like video conversion AVI to MPG etc. Or alternatively it sometimes crashes when left alone with no programs running. It may be after 10 minutes or 5 days when left with nothing running but is usually 10% into converting a video file 700Mb. Everything usually freezes and a red band appears at the top of the screen. I have recently installed a second HD and thought this may be the cause of the problem. However, it still happens when I disconnect the second drive. Just in case I have just installed a 500 watt PSU. System Athlon XP 2000+ 512Mb DDR 80Gb HDD 120Gb HDD DVD DVDR NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX400 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 500 watt PSU Any help would be appreciated. I don't really want to replace every component. HELP |
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dino wrote:
Help needed!!!!!!!!! I have an intermittent crashing problem. It roughly happens when I start to stretch the machine doing this like video conversion AVI to MPG etc. Or alternatively it sometimes crashes when left alone with no programs running. It may be after 10 minutes or 5 days when left with nothing running but is usually 10% into converting a video file 700Mb. I had problems similar to yours caused by heat. I bought a couple of case fans and even the most taxing cpu activity doesnt overheat my machine anymore. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Infected. Checked by MCR anti-virus system (http://www.crapsig.com). Version: 8.0.125 / Virus Database: 591 - Release Date: 26/03/1969 |
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"dino" wrote in message
... Help needed!!!!!!!!! I have an intermittent crashing problem. It roughly happens when I start to stretch the machine doing this like video conversion AVI to MPG etc. Or alternatively it sometimes crashes when left alone with no programs running. It may be after 10 minutes or 5 days when left with nothing running but is usually 10% into converting a video file 700Mb. Do a basic hardware check: 1. Make sure your CPU and case temperatures are OK, and that the CPU fan, case fans, and any other fans are working. One tool you can use to check temperatures is the free Hpme Edition of Everest. You can download it from http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en. Run it, expand "Computer", and click on "Sensor". On that same display, you can also check to see whether the voltages are within spec, and you might watch them for a while to see whether they fluctuate -- the display updates itself automatically every few seconds. 2. You can also use Everest to check the SMART readings of the hard drive(s): Expand "Storage" and click on "SMART". The "Worst" value of all the parameters not marked "Always passing" should be well above the "Threshold" (except for the "Spin Retry Count", whose worst value may be just a little over the threshold). 3. Shut down your computer and turn off power *at the surge protector* (which cuts off standby power while leaving your computer grounded) or unplug it. Take the standard precautions against static electricity (wear a wrist strap or keep one hand grounded at all times). 4. Open up your computer and dust it out. *Do not use a vacuum cleaner* - it might cause static discharge. Get some dust remover spray (RadioShack has it) and a dust mask, and take your computer outside and spray out the dust. Keep the end of the spray straw at least six inches from any components and keep it moving so as to avoid excessive thermal shock to the components. 5. Reseat all the modules, including the memory modules, and cables inside your computer. 6. Remove your CMOS battery and check its voltage (or just replace it). Note: If you do this step, you'll have to set up your BIOS again. 7. Turn on your computer, and run a few cycles of "memtest86+" (download from http://www.memtest.org) to thoroughly check out your memory. You should get zero errors. --Bob Day http://bobday.vze.com |
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"MCR" wrote in message ... dino wrote: Help needed!!!!!!!!! I have an intermittent crashing problem. It roughly happens when I start to stretch the machine doing this like video conversion AVI to MPG etc. Or alternatively it sometimes crashes when left alone with no programs running. It may be after 10 minutes or 5 days when left with nothing running but is usually 10% into converting a video file 700Mb. I had problems similar to yours caused by heat. I bought a couple of case fans and even the most taxing cpu activity doesnt overheat my machine anymore. If I remove the sides of the case (both sides) and leave in the middle of the room with a domestic fan blowing onto the motherboard would this help? I have tried this with no help. Currently CPU 46 deg C Motherboard 30 deg C HD1 39 deg C HD2 40 deg C Any ideas? -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Infected. Checked by MCR anti-virus system (http://www.crapsig.com). Version: 8.0.125 / Virus Database: 591 - Release Date: 26/03/1969 |
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"Bob Day" wrote in message news:q4ANc.763$FZ5.554@trndny07... "dino" wrote in message ... Help needed!!!!!!!!! I have an intermittent crashing problem. It roughly happens when I start to stretch the machine doing this like video conversion AVI to MPG etc. Or alternatively it sometimes crashes when left alone with no programs running. It may be after 10 minutes or 5 days when left with nothing running but is usually 10% into converting a video file 700Mb. Do a basic hardware check: 1. Make sure your CPU and case temperatures are OK, and that the CPU fan, case fans, and any other fans are working. One tool you can use to check temperatures is the free Hpme Edition of Everest. You can download it from http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?lang=en. Run it, expand "Computer", and click on "Sensor". On that same display, you can also check to see whether the voltages are within spec, and you might watch them for a while to see whether they fluctuate -- the display updates itself automatically every few seconds. 2. You can also use Everest to check the SMART readings of the hard drive(s): Expand "Storage" and click on "SMART". The "Worst" value of all the parameters not marked "Always passing" should be well above the "Threshold" (except for the "Spin Retry Count", whose worst value may be just a little over the threshold). 3. Shut down your computer and turn off power *at the surge protector* (which cuts off standby power while leaving your computer grounded) or unplug it. Take the standard precautions against static electricity (wear a wrist strap or keep one hand grounded at all times). 4. Open up your computer and dust it out. *Do not use a vacuum cleaner* - it might cause static discharge. Get some dust remover spray (RadioShack has it) and a dust mask, and take your computer outside and spray out the dust. Keep the end of the spray straw at least six inches from any components and keep it moving so as to avoid excessive thermal shock to the components. 5. Reseat all the modules, including the memory modules, and cables inside your computer. 6. Remove your CMOS battery and check its voltage (or just replace it). Note: If you do this step, you'll have to set up your BIOS again. 7. Turn on your computer, and run a few cycles of "memtest86+" (download from http://www.memtest.org) to thoroughly check out your memory. You should get zero errors. --Bob Day http://bobday.vze.com Thanks for the advise I have already dusted out and run mem test and reseated the video card and memory. I have not done anything with the CMOS battery as i did not think this would effect anything. I will download the program you suggested and try temp as speed fan tells me CPU 46 deg C Motherboard 30 deg C HD1 41 deg C HD2 39 deg C I have left same message on another forum and they suggest video card? |
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dino wrote:
Snipped If I remove the sides of the case (both sides) and leave in the middle of the room with a domestic fan blowing onto the motherboard would this help? I have tried this with no help. Currently CPU 46 deg C Motherboard 30 deg C HD1 39 deg C HD2 40 deg C Any ideas? Next thing to try is a memory test... go to http://www.memtest86.com/ and download the software. Run it and see if it reports any problems, Also... try setting the memory timings in the BIOS slower... it maybe your RAM is ok for a slower rating, but is being taxed now. In addition.... Another factor in my problem (a homebuilt PC) was the fact that my Mobo (An Asus A7NX Deluxe or something ;-) , was quite 'fussy' with the memory, and I had to return the RAM a few times. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Infected. Checked by MCR anti-virus system (http://www.crapsig.com). Version: 8.0.125 / Virus Database: 591 - Release Date: 26/03/1969 |
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Thanks for the advise Advice ;-) I have already dusted out and run mem test and reseated the video card and memory. I have not done anything with the CMOS battery as i did not think this would effect anything. I will download the program you suggested and try temp as speed fan tells me CPU 46 deg C Motherboard 30 deg C HD1 41 deg C HD2 39 deg C I have left same message on another forum and they suggest video card? If you have 2 ram sticks try each in each slot sperately.Do,"Not"trust any software RAM tester programs. HTH -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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Seems OK at the moment. Dont many many changes. Too many to mension. Last
lot of change that seem to work are slowing down timings as you suggest and also upping voltage to mobo. After i did both these i hasnt crashed yet 24hrs and counting. "MCR" wrote in message ... dino wrote: Snipped If I remove the sides of the case (both sides) and leave in the middle of the room with a domestic fan blowing onto the motherboard would this help? I have tried this with no help. Currently CPU 46 deg C Motherboard 30 deg C HD1 39 deg C HD2 40 deg C Any ideas? Next thing to try is a memory test... go to http://www.memtest86.com/ and download the software. Run it and see if it reports any problems, Also... try setting the memory timings in the BIOS slower... it maybe your RAM is ok for a slower rating, but is being taxed now. In addition.... Another factor in my problem (a homebuilt PC) was the fact that my Mobo (An Asus A7NX Deluxe or something ;-) , was quite 'fussy' with the memory, and I had to return the RAM a few times. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Infected. Checked by MCR anti-virus system (http://www.crapsig.com). Version: 8.0.125 / Virus Database: 591 - Release Date: 26/03/1969 |
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