quietly cooling a hot machine

I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store and
purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink
and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58
when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy
top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think) with three fans
blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and two exhaust fans
and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is relatively stable at
34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm room, made warmer
when this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the machine makes little
difference to the temp but makes it noisier

So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my investigation
shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem to also require
the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto area
if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a water block
as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike

Get a Zalman 7000a Cu cooler.


Its just the best, just make sure you can fit it to your board,
compatible i mean, if its not any Zalman cooler will do.

Running mine at 2000rpm and keeping my Overclocked Mobile barton 2500,
default 1800ghz overclokced to 1.5ghz

Nice and cool at 39c at the momment.




On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:00:56 -0400, "M.Hockings"
wrote:

I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store and
purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink
and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58
when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy
top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think) with three fans
blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and two exhaust fans
and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is relatively stable at
34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm room, made warmer
when this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the machine makes little
difference to the temp but makes it noisier

So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my investigation
shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem to also require
the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto area
if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a water block
as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike

"M.Hockings" wrote in message
...

" ...purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink
and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58 when
playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy top speed.
"


Try turning the fan around the other way, as this can often be more
productive. If you run it with the temperature sensor, then it may keep the
fan at lower (and quieter) speeds.

"M.Hockings" wrote in message
...
I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store
and purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper
heatsink and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti
and 57-58 when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a
it's noisy top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think)
with three fans blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and
two exhaust fans and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is
relatively stable at 34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm
room, made warmer when this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the
machine makes little difference to the temp but makes it noisier

So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800).
To this end I have been considering water cooling. But my
investigation shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem
to also require the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto
area if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a water
block as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

If I were you, I would forget water cooling for the moment, as you say
all (decent) waterblocks require mounting holes.

The Zalman 7000cu is an excellent cooler, you could buy a new (better?)
motherboard with holes and the zalman for a lot less than a decent
wetware system.

Or you could search the newsgroups for posts by Wes Newell, he
recommends a couple of cheaper HSF's that out perform most others,
saying that, Wes will probably post a reply himself Then look at
those HSF's and see if they are compatible with your existing
motherboard.

BTW I tried a Volcano 7 once, worst performing, noisiest thing I've ever
bought.

--
Apollo

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:00:56 -0400, "M.Hockings"
wrote:

I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store and
purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink
and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58
when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy
top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think) with three fans
blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and two exhaust fans
and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is relatively stable at
34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm room, made warmer
when this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the machine makes little
difference to the temp but makes it noisier

So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my investigation
shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem to also require
the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto area
if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a water block
as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike

I originally had a Volcano 11 on my setup (Asus A7V333-X and XP2000)
and the diode temps were 59C under load with 34C case temp.

I replaced the HSF with a Zalman 6000Cu ans the temps dropped to 54C
under load and the case temp remained about 34C. I have now opened up
the back of the case a bit by removing the honey comb metal covering
the rear fans. The case temp is now 32C and the CPU diode reports 53C
under heavey load.

Best of all its very quiet. I have a 120mm antec fan at the fron that
I switch on when gaming. Apart from that it stays off.

Harry

M.Hockings wrote:
I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store
and purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper
heatsink and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti
and 57-58 when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a
it's noisy top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think)
with three fans blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and
two exhaust fans and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is
relatively stable at 34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a
warm room, made warmer when this machine is on :-) Taking the side
of the machine makes little difference to the temp but makes it
noisier
So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my
investigation shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem
to also require the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto
area if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a
water block as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike

don't bother with water cooling, it's far too messy
you prob need to make your case cooler
35c envioment temp was ok for p3's and such, you need room temp really these
days to make any headway

my temps on my barton xp2500 @ xp3200 (2.2ghz)
case 23c, cpu 48c

Volcano 7 BHAHAHAH, yeah ioht one of those Noisy ****er



On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:21:31 +0100, "Geoff"
wrote:

M.Hockings wrote:
I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store
and purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper
heatsink and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti
and 57-58 when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a
it's noisy top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think)
with three fans blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and
two exhaust fans and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is
relatively stable at 34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a
warm room, made warmer when this machine is on :-) Taking the side
of the machine makes little difference to the temp but makes it
noisier
So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my
investigation shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem
to also require the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto
area if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a
water block as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike

don't bother with water cooling, it's far too messy
you prob need to make your case cooler
35c envioment temp was ok for p3's and such, you need room temp really these
days to make any headway

my temps on my barton xp2500 @ xp3200 (2.2ghz)
case 23c, cpu 48c

"Little TeaPot" wrote in message
...


Volcano 7 BHAHAHAH, yeah ioht one of those Noisy ****er


Still an annoying little sod aren't you Mr Moden?, is this your last
nick or you gonna change it again?

Now you've stopped X-posting, can you concentrate on bottom posting

--
Apollo

"M.Hockings" wrote in message
...
I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an Ultra
aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store and
purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink and
is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58 when
playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy top
speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think) with three fans
blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and two exhaust fans and
the power supply blowing out. The case temp is relatively stable at
34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm room, made warmer when
this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the machine makes little
difference to the temp but makes it noisier


Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike


I have a cooler master aero7+ on an unlocked Barton 2500 at 234 x 10 on an
AN7-S, which does a pretty good job and is quieter than any conventional fan
I have had (softer less intrusive noise). Kept temperatures down pretty
well this summer under 55C, but had to slow up to 220x10 for about a month
when ambient temps were in the 30C (as the cpu becomes unstable over 55C
when overclocked). The aero7+ is only rated to xp3000+ whereas the
coolermaster jet is rated as over 3200+ and may be a bit better, though I
can not account for its noise. But they are clip fastening.
I have been into extreme air cooling, but I can no longer stand the noise,
and as my case won't allow a big zalman I find the coolermaster aero7 is a
good compromise between performance and noise.

Mike,
You could ask the folks at www.bigfootcomputers.com in Toronto on Dundas
Street around Jane or Keele Street. They are specilists in cooling and have
in stock Zalman 7000 coolers and even the newer (larger but ligther)
Thermalright 120. They should be able to advise on what's best for your
setup.

Derek

"M.Hockings" wrote in message
...
I have an 3200+ machine that was running quite hot (over 60c) with an
Ultra aluminum heatsink and fan so I have returned that to the store and
purchased a Tt "Extreme Volcano 12". This has a nice copper heatsink
and is keeping the temps down below 60 -- 54-56 running Seti and 57-58
when playing games as well. This is with the fan running a it's noisy
top speed. The case itself is well ventilated (I think) with three fans
blowing in, two in the front and one on the side and two exhaust fans
and the power supply blowing out. The case temp is relatively stable at
34-35c, about 10c above the ambient. It is a warm room, made warmer
when this machine is on :-) Taking the side of the machine makes little
difference to the temp but makes it noisier

So, what I would like to do is come up with a cooling solution that is
quiet. I have considered the big Zalman fan but it appears to require
mounting holes in the motherboard which mine lacks (Gigabyte 7N800). To
this end I have been considering water cooling. But my investigation
shows that at least some water blocks (danger den) seem to also require
the mounting holes as well.

Is there a recommended water cooling sys (available in the Toronto area
if possible) that will mount ok on my board. Or at least a water block
as I think I could fudge together the rest of the system.

Or, of course, is there an air cooling solution that is very quiet and
cools well in a warm environment.

Mike