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In article , Blaedmon
writes could be, could be not. could be that Nvidia is sick of lamers screwing up things in the drivers and giving them a bad name? could be. ROFLMAO!!! Others giving them a bad name!? Give me a break, they've done themselves more damage than anyone else ever could have. -- Toby |
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In article 6CIKa.26795$Ab2.50846@sccrnsc01, Raptor writes
Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver cough enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what* Nvidia does really. They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this: 1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy. 2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks **** out of GF4 3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems 4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700 5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700 6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press 7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in 8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better 9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle 9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive Basically they can't do anything right atm. The NV30 was a complete joke. The NV35 may be a good card, but it's horrendously expensive compared to the competition, and I imagine has ****ed off a good few 5800 Ultra owners. They've been caught blatantly cheating with their drivers in a pathetic attempt to make their kit look better and now they're just panicking. -- Toby |
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"Toby Groves" wrote in message ... In article 6CIKa.26795$Ab2.50846@sccrnsc01, Raptor writes Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver cough enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what* Nvidia does really. They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this: 1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy. 2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks **** out of GF4 3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems 4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700 5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700 6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press 7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in 8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better 9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle 9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive FUD snipped Timeline: NV outsells and outperforms all others ATI finally get a good run with the 9700 in spite of the hardware failings and driver incompatabilities with many games NV30 announced ATI fanbois get the shivers and all the old feelings of inadequecy reappear-decision is made to spread FUD about NV thruout the web, leaders are paid ATI syncophants 9800 is announced to fix some of the 9700 failings, hardware is more expensive while basically the same core, drivers still are borked NV30 fails miserably NV35 is announced, ATI fanbois really worried, campaign of disinformation continues, ATI drivers still s**k From the start of the timeline, thru all the releases and BS, NV still outsells ATI, NV drivers "just work" while ATI users need to use the Omega drivers just to get by Oh and BTW, all Omega does to either driver is change settings that can be s et with Rivatuner, such as LOD increases, thereby getting better IQ with less performance-now how is the loss of Omega altered NV drivers going to hurt? |
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In article , ginfest
writes snip FUD and lies ROFLMAO! -- Toby |
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"Toby Groves" wrote in message ... In article 6CIKa.26795$Ab2.50846@sccrnsc01, Raptor writes Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver cough enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what* Nvidia does really. They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this: 1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy. 2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks **** out of GF4 3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems 4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700 5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700 6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press 7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in 8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better 9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle 9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive Basically they can't do anything right atm. The NV30 was a complete joke. The NV35 may be a good card, but it's horrendously expensive compared to the competition, and I imagine has ****ed off a good few 5800 Ultra owners. They've been caught blatantly cheating with their drivers in a pathetic attempt to make their kit look better and now they're just panicking. -- Toby What a load of crud ... simple fact all the companies cheat on drivers. http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEx Anyone who believes reviews on graphic cards on sites that use factory samples is in cloud cuckoo land. That is most reviews btw. Honestly both are good card manufacturers .. I own a Radeon 9800 Pro and like it a lot, prioir to that owned Nvidia cards and even a Voodoo in the old days. Statements like the above show how immature some people are in their bias towards one product ... sheesh. And I will carry on the crosspost even though it is against my grain (sorry for those who don't like them). @ndrew |
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"ginfest" wrote in message et... "Toby Groves" wrote in message ... In article 6CIKa.26795$Ab2.50846@sccrnsc01, Raptor writes Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver cough enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what* Nvidia does really. They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this: 1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy. 2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks **** out of GF4 3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems 4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700 5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700 6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press 7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in 8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better 9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle 9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive FUD snipped Timeline: NV outsells and outperforms all others ATI finally get a good run with the 9700 in spite of the hardware failings and driver incompatabilities with many games NV30 announced ATI fanbois get the shivers and all the old feelings of inadequecy reappear-decision is made to spread FUD about NV thruout the web, leaders are paid ATI syncophants 9800 is announced to fix some of the 9700 failings, hardware is more expensive while basically the same core, drivers still are borked NV30 fails miserably NV35 is announced, ATI fanbois really worried, campaign of disinformation continues, ATI drivers still s**k From the start of the timeline, thru all the releases and BS, NV still outsells ATI, NV drivers "just work" while ATI users need to use the Omega drivers just to get by Oh and BTW, all Omega does to either driver is change settings that can be s et with Rivatuner, such as LOD increases, thereby getting better IQ with less performance-now how is the loss of Omega altered NV drivers going to hurt? Well put. I'm surpised the ati newsgroup can keep up with all the posted problems on their board. What a mess. |
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