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how much can i overclock my computer en how
"Joop van vugt" wrote in message ... Hello ik have a proccessor pentium 4 2.4 fsb 533 Same as me. Good overclocking choice (I'll tell you why in a second). i have also 528 rimm memory (pc4200) Wow that's fast. And i have a asus motherboard type p4t533 Perfectly suitable. I will now overclock the computer and i dont no how far i can go its nou running on 133 Actually that's helpful, considering that it causes the multiplier to be low. If you had a 100MHz 2.4Ghz, you would have a 24x multiplier which is much harder to overclock. maby anyone can help me please greetings Joop Well your motherboard should support changing the FSB through the BIOS in increments of 1MHz. My P4b 2.4 was able to go up to 2.95GHz. Try a google search for "overclocking basics," as well as look at www.sharkyextreme.com 's articles on how to overclock. But here's a brief overview. Your 2.4GHz processor has something called a CPU multiplier. The multiplier can be found by dividing the speed (2400MHz, or actually 2394MHz) by the system bus (133MHz). Therefore, your multiplier is 18x. This is crucial to determining how much overclocking potential you have. Because intel processors have a "locked multiplier" (that is, you can't change it), the only way you're going to be able to overclock is by increasing the system bus. The higher your multiplier is, the harder it is to increase the system bus, because each 1MHz increase in the system bus causes an 18MHz jump in the CPU speed. Therefore, you cannot increase the system bus too much because your CPU simply cannot go too fast. Also note that your FSB multiplier is 4x (533/4 is about 133). Thus, your FSB increases by 4MHz for every 1MHz increase to the system bus. Usually, people start off by increasing the system bus by 10MHz at a time. This will cause a 180MHz difference to your CPU and a 40MHz difference to your FSB. As you get to higher speeds, you'll probably want to adjust your CPU's voltage, commonly referred to as VCore. At default, it is set to 1.55V. If your motherboard does not support adjusting this, your overclocking abilities are going to be severely limited. If, however, you can increase this, increasing your VCore will make your system more stable at higher speeds. Don't set it too high, though, as it will cause your temperatures to go higher and can cause damage to your CPU if it's too high. Generally, a 10-15% increase is safe, and not many people like to go higher than that. My VCore is currently set at 1.675V, an 8% increase. I don't need to set it higher because my CPU is currently stable, and if I were to increase the system bus more, my CPU fails to post. Here's the steps you should take while overclocking: **PLEASE NOTE: While doing this proceedure, you must set your RAM, PCI, and AGP divider settings to keep your RAM PCI and AGP clocks standard. If they are not standard, you will probably encounter errors.** *****SECOND NOTE: You cannot hold me responsible for any damage caused by following the steps below. By following the steps below you assume all risks that are inherent from overclocking your system. Note that overclocking your system probably violates and voids warranties which may be standing on your processor or other peripherals.***** 1. Increase your VCore by 5%, if possible. 2. Increase your system bus by 10MHz 3. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 4. If not, give up on overclocking 4. Increase your system bus by 5MHz 5. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 6. Are you satisfied with how much overclocking you've done? If yes, go to step 16. If not, go to step 4. 7. Increase your VCore by .025V 8. Are you above 15% increase to VCore? If yes, go to step 10. If not, go to step 9. 9. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 10. Bring your VCore back down to the 15% increase level 11. Bring your system bus down by 1MHz. 12. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 11. 13. Bring your VCore down .025V. (If you're already at 1.55V, go to step 16) 14. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 15. 15. Bring your VCore back up to the last setting that succeeded. 16. Load windows 17. Is your system stable? If yes, go to step 20. Otherwise go to step 18. 18. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 19. Go to step 16. 20. Run a CPU and RAM extensive program. Preferrably some kind of 3D game. 21. Are there any unexpected things in the game (wierd dots across the screen, images not rendering properly)? If yes, go to step 22. If not, go to step 24. 22. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 23. Go to step 20. 24. You're done. Following these steps, I was able to bring my 2.4GHz/533MHz P4 to a 2.95GHz/656MHz processor. Much cheaper than the available 3.02GHz. I was hoping to get it above 3GHz but I'll settle for that. Maybe you'll have better luck. Good luck! -- MiniDisc_2k2 To reply, replace nospam.com with cox dot net. |
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olricht but how high is your fsb and vcore when i will try to same als you
greetings joop "MiniDisc_2k2" schreef in bericht ... "Joop van vugt" wrote in message ... Hello ik have a proccessor pentium 4 2.4 fsb 533 Same as me. Good overclocking choice (I'll tell you why in a second). i have also 528 rimm memory (pc4200) Wow that's fast. And i have a asus motherboard type p4t533 Perfectly suitable. I will now overclock the computer and i dont no how far i can go its nou running on 133 Actually that's helpful, considering that it causes the multiplier to be low. If you had a 100MHz 2.4Ghz, you would have a 24x multiplier which is much harder to overclock. maby anyone can help me please greetings Joop Well your motherboard should support changing the FSB through the BIOS in increments of 1MHz. My P4b 2.4 was able to go up to 2.95GHz. Try a google search for "overclocking basics," as well as look at www.sharkyextreme.com 's articles on how to overclock. But here's a brief overview. Your 2.4GHz processor has something called a CPU multiplier. The multiplier can be found by dividing the speed (2400MHz, or actually 2394MHz) by the system bus (133MHz). Therefore, your multiplier is 18x. This is crucial to determining how much overclocking potential you have. Because intel processors have a "locked multiplier" (that is, you can't change it), the only way you're going to be able to overclock is by increasing the system bus. The higher your multiplier is, the harder it is to increase the system bus, because each 1MHz increase in the system bus causes an 18MHz jump in the CPU speed. Therefore, you cannot increase the system bus too much because your CPU simply cannot go too fast. Also note that your FSB multiplier is 4x (533/4 is about 133). Thus, your FSB increases by 4MHz for every 1MHz increase to the system bus. Usually, people start off by increasing the system bus by 10MHz at a time. This will cause a 180MHz difference to your CPU and a 40MHz difference to your FSB. As you get to higher speeds, you'll probably want to adjust your CPU's voltage, commonly referred to as VCore. At default, it is set to 1.55V. If your motherboard does not support adjusting this, your overclocking abilities are going to be severely limited. If, however, you can increase this, increasing your VCore will make your system more stable at higher speeds. Don't set it too high, though, as it will cause your temperatures to go higher and can cause damage to your CPU if it's too high. Generally, a 10-15% increase is safe, and not many people like to go higher than that. My VCore is currently set at 1.675V, an 8% increase. I don't need to set it higher because my CPU is currently stable, and if I were to increase the system bus more, my CPU fails to post. Here's the steps you should take while overclocking: **PLEASE NOTE: While doing this proceedure, you must set your RAM, PCI, and AGP divider settings to keep your RAM PCI and AGP clocks standard. If they are not standard, you will probably encounter errors.** *****SECOND NOTE: You cannot hold me responsible for any damage caused by following the steps below. By following the steps below you assume all risks that are inherent from overclocking your system. Note that overclocking your system probably violates and voids warranties which may be standing on your processor or other peripherals.***** 1. Increase your VCore by 5%, if possible. 2. Increase your system bus by 10MHz 3. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 4. If not, give up on overclocking 4. Increase your system bus by 5MHz 5. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 6. Are you satisfied with how much overclocking you've done? If yes, go to step 16. If not, go to step 4. 7. Increase your VCore by .025V 8. Are you above 15% increase to VCore? If yes, go to step 10. If not, go to step 9. 9. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 10. Bring your VCore back down to the 15% increase level 11. Bring your system bus down by 1MHz. 12. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 11. 13. Bring your VCore down .025V. (If you're already at 1.55V, go to step 16) 14. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 15. 15. Bring your VCore back up to the last setting that succeeded. 16. Load windows 17. Is your system stable? If yes, go to step 20. Otherwise go to step 18. 18. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 19. Go to step 16. 20. Run a CPU and RAM extensive program. Preferrably some kind of 3D game. 21. Are there any unexpected things in the game (wierd dots across the screen, images not rendering properly)? If yes, go to step 22. If not, go to step 24. 22. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 23. Go to step 20. 24. You're done. Following these steps, I was able to bring my 2.4GHz/533MHz P4 to a 2.95GHz/656MHz processor. Much cheaper than the available 3.02GHz. I was hoping to get it above 3GHz but I'll settle for that. Maybe you'll have better luck. Good luck! -- MiniDisc_2k2 To reply, replace nospam.com with cox dot net. |
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Please note that there's a difference between the system bus and the front
side bus. I'm not even sure if I'm right when I say this or if they even can be used interchangably, but AFAIK, the system bus is what you overclock, the FSB is the speed of transfer between RAM and CPU. I consistently see people referring to the system bus as the FSB, and I'm not sure if they're right in saying that. I've even seen tutorials do that. IIRC, the FSB is speed of data transfer, system bus is the thing starting at 133MHz. Anyways, following that logic, here's my stats (I'm telling you what it's rated, and what I overclocked it to). Please note that the only thing that I overclocked was the system bus, VCore, and RAM dividers, everything else is just simple multiplication. System bus: Rated 133MHz, Overclocked to 164MHz Front Side Bus: Rated 533MHz, Overclocked to 656MHz CPU Speed: Rated 2.40GHz, Overclocked to 2.95GHz VCo Rated 1.550V, Set at 1.675V RAM Speed: Rated DDR400, Overclocked to DDR410 One more note. I can't tell you precisely what my RAM, PCI, and AGP dividers are set to. My BIOS simply gives me a bunch of settings for the RAM, so I don't have to worry about the divider settings. I simply picked the one closest to DDR400 without going under. RAM is really hard to overclock so I just didn't worry about it. Also, the PCI and AGP settings for my BIOS are async, that means that they are set manually, no worrying about dividers. If your motherboard doesn't support these options, you'll have to do the calculations yourself. Good luck! MiniDisc_2k2 "Joop van vugt" wrote in message ... olricht but how high is your fsb and vcore when i will try to same als you greetings joop "MiniDisc_2k2" schreef in bericht ... "Joop van vugt" wrote in message ... Hello ik have a proccessor pentium 4 2.4 fsb 533 Same as me. Good overclocking choice (I'll tell you why in a second). i have also 528 rimm memory (pc4200) Wow that's fast. And i have a asus motherboard type p4t533 Perfectly suitable. I will now overclock the computer and i dont no how far i can go its nou running on 133 Actually that's helpful, considering that it causes the multiplier to be low. If you had a 100MHz 2.4Ghz, you would have a 24x multiplier which is much harder to overclock. maby anyone can help me please greetings Joop Well your motherboard should support changing the FSB through the BIOS in increments of 1MHz. My P4b 2.4 was able to go up to 2.95GHz. Try a search for "overclocking basics," as well as look at www.sharkyextreme.com 's articles on how to overclock. But here's a brief overview. Your 2.4GHz processor has something called a CPU multiplier. The multiplier can be found by dividing the speed (2400MHz, or actually 2394MHz) by the system bus (133MHz). Therefore, your multiplier is 18x. This is crucial to determining how much overclocking potential you have. Because intel processors have a "locked multiplier" (that is, you can't change it), the only way you're going to be able to overclock is by increasing the system bus. The higher your multiplier is, the harder it is to increase the system bus, because each 1MHz increase in the system bus causes an 18MHz jump in the CPU speed. Therefore, you cannot increase the system bus too much because your CPU simply cannot go too fast. Also note that your FSB multiplier is 4x (533/4 is about 133). Thus, your FSB increases by 4MHz for every 1MHz increase to the system bus. Usually, people start off by increasing the system bus by 10MHz at a time. This will cause a 180MHz difference to your CPU and a 40MHz difference to your FSB. As you get to higher speeds, you'll probably want to adjust your CPU's voltage, commonly referred to as VCore. At default, it is set to 1.55V. If your motherboard does not support adjusting this, your overclocking abilities are going to be severely limited. If, however, you can increase this, increasing your VCore will make your system more stable at higher speeds. Don't set it too high, though, as it will cause your temperatures to go higher and can cause damage to your CPU if it's too high. Generally, a 10-15% increase is safe, and not many people like to go higher than that. My VCore is currently set at 1.675V, an 8% increase. I don't need to set it higher because my CPU is currently stable, and if I were to increase the system bus more, my CPU fails to post. Here's the steps you should take while overclocking: **PLEASE NOTE: While doing this proceedure, you must set your RAM, PCI, and AGP divider settings to keep your RAM PCI and AGP clocks standard. If they are not standard, you will probably encounter errors.** *****SECOND NOTE: You cannot hold me responsible for any damage caused by following the steps below. By following the steps below you assume all risks that are inherent from overclocking your system. Note that overclocking your system probably violates and voids warranties which may be standing on your processor or other peripherals.***** 1. Increase your VCore by 5%, if possible. 2. Increase your system bus by 10MHz 3. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 4. If not, give up on overclocking 4. Increase your system bus by 5MHz 5. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 6. Are you satisfied with how much overclocking you've done? If yes, go to step 16. If not, go to step 4. 7. Increase your VCore by .025V 8. Are you above 15% increase to VCore? If yes, go to step 10. If not, go to step 9. 9. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 6. If not, go to step 7. 10. Bring your VCore back down to the 15% increase level 11. Bring your system bus down by 1MHz. 12. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 11. 13. Bring your VCore down .025V. (If you're already at 1.55V, go to step 16) 14. Does your system POST? If yes, go to step 13. If not, go to step 15. 15. Bring your VCore back up to the last setting that succeeded. 16. Load windows 17. Is your system stable? If yes, go to step 20. Otherwise go to step 18. 18. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 19. Go to step 16. 20. Run a CPU and RAM extensive program. Preferrably some kind of 3D game. 21. Are there any unexpected things in the game (wierd dots across the screen, images not rendering properly)? If yes, go to step 22. If not, go to step 24. 22. Increase your VCore by .025V. If you're already above 15% increase, decrease your system bus by 1MHz. 23. Go to step 20. 24. You're done. Following these steps, I was able to bring my 2.4GHz/533MHz P4 to a 2.95GHz/656MHz processor. Much cheaper than the available 3.02GHz. I was hoping to get it above 3GHz but I'll settle for that. Maybe you'll have better luck. Good luck! -- MiniDisc_2k2 To reply, replace nospam.com with cox dot net. |
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