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9600 non-pro, 9600 pro vs. 9800SE
Hy!
Can anybody tell me if 9800SE is really a good alternative to 9600pro if I am going to use the card mainly for 3D game making? I mean, I don't have enough money for a 9800 or 9800 pro, but I would (ideally) need full dx9 support. Is this achieved by 9800SE too (as compared to the other 9800's). And what about performance of this Strange Edition? Can't find reliable reviews on that and neither for 9600 non-pro and I would need to be sure there aren't any cuts BUT performance(FrameSec) related ones in this SE cards. About 9600. I found a reasonably priced card, namely "Gigabyte GV-R96128D-ATI Radeon 9600-128Mb DDRAM AGP 8X TV-OUT DVI Dual display Retail (64bit)" - 114 USD. The cheapest pro version is at 180 USD. Does anybody know of any review for it? Or, if you have it, how does it behave? Any reson to go for Hercules at 190 Euro, for huge retail 9600pro? I have seen many frequencies listed for the 9600 cards off various manufacturers. Which are the default ones? and memory speeds also. Thank you! |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:35:05 GMT
Magwheelz wrote: On 20 Nov 2003 12:59:57 -0800, (Tud) wrote: I would (ideally) need full dx9 support. Which of these 3 support dx9? All of them. If you are "going to need it" (and if you are a gamer you will) then this is your call. Gotta go, Magwheelz -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J.Clarke" wrote in message t...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:35:05 GMT Magwheelz wrote: On 20 Nov 2003 12:59:57 -0800, (Tud) wrote: I would (ideally) need full dx9 support. Which of these 3 support dx9? All of them. True, but only 9800 range of cards have "full dx9 compatibility", as in unlimited shader length. Also, I have seen this article on 9800SE that got me thinkin' : http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...mlld19JRD02NTU Only if I were lucky enough to get that percent of good chips... Anyway, what sort of cuts does 9800SE have besides disabled pipes? If I go for this, I would have to be able to program dx9 games the same way like on the other 9800's. Does anybody see any reason why this would not be so? Thanks ! Tud |
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On 21 Nov 2003 23:49:38 -0800, (Tud) wrote:
Also, I have seen this article on 9800SE that got me thinkin' : http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...mlld19JRD02NTU Only if I were lucky enough to get that percent of good chips... Anyway, what sort of cuts does 9800SE have besides disabled pipes? If I go for this, I would have to be able to program dx9 games the same way like on the other 9800's. Does anybody see any reason why this would not be so? I've setup a 9600se to replace a failed Sappire 9000Pro card... The 9600se was slower. It has 64bit memory, insteadof 128bit memory which really hurts. For $130 retail with Half Life2 is not a bad price but not for serious gaming. Get at least a 9600... or 9600Pro ($160)... 9600XT includes Half Life2. http://www.ati.com/gitg/promotions/hl2offer/index.html -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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On 20 Nov 2003 12:59:57 -0800, (Tud) wrote:
Which of these 3 support dx9? All of them. True, but only 9800 range of cards have "full dx9 compatibility", as in unlimited shader length. I believe you are confusing present and future standards and the types of shader.[...] shaders that the 9500, 9600, 9700 support are all that is necessary for DirectX 9 compliance. This whole issue is FUD stirred up by nvidia's PR department when ATI started kicking their butts in the reviews. It is exactly this marketing gimmick that I'm trying to avoid. I found something on ati's site regarding the SMARTSHADER version: http://www.ati.com/products/radeon96...pro/specs.html http://www.ati.com/products/radeon98...pro/specs.html It looks like the 9800 range has the upper hand, and I'm pretty sure that "F-buffer with unlimited instruction" is a feature that is going to be used in the near future in games. So I think I'll go for a 9800SE, except if anyone can persuade me against it. (I need mostly great programability not excesive gaming power). Thanks! |
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