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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
Put it in last night, replacing the stock, relatively a petite AMD
cooler for an eight-core. Pretty substantial, nonetheless, for their base EVO model: consisting of metal backplate, some offset posts for the backplate, and a cross-member to secure the cooler to four posts. Clip the fan on the fins and it's ready. Included an extra two clips for optionally putting on your own extra, in a dual-fan config. The cross-member screws seem the only problem. Burying them into the posts, serving to secure the base heatpipe into a mate to the top of the CPU, there's a fair leeway left over for torque. I went by feel, what felt to me nice and tight, and not to the end of the thread travel, probably, within design allowances. It wouldn't presumably crush and crumble the MB into broken pieces of layer PCB. I'll take their word on it -- from the included instruction sheets, illustrated like a comic book without any textual balloons -- and settle for the results. Dropped temps about 10 degrees F ambient, with extreme loads showing 15 degrees improvement. Loading a thousand audio codecs, queued and spread across all eight cores, with the stock cooler, began to level out at 144 F, though still potentially rising, when I shut it down after a couple minutes and a quarter or less the way through. Same thing with the EVO settled down to 130 F, maintained at halfway through for four minutes. (Also suspect the PWM aspect kicked in and it was running maybe an eighth faster -- around 2 to 2.5K RPM.) Also updated all my sensor software. ...Surprised to find my old quadcore Intel q8200, I'd previously been misreading, actually runs hotter under the same stress loads, with a very similar cooler, than the octal. $25 is worth it, good stuff, which is why Cooler Master pretty much has the market cornered for the money. Still...$20 on a sale would be just peachy for that class of cooling. Added assurance and security, hopefully, for long haul. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:27:22 -0400, Flasherly
wrote: Also - it's dead quiet. The stock was of course a smaller and/or more fan blades and to be expected some audible noise. For a relatively huge cooler, positioning it's fan next and to feed a PS in/out array, dual fans, the added CPU heat generated is immediately noticeably -- as ducted out of the PS and case. Which is a regular little heater for the summertime, and which the stock cooler could in no way duplicate. And that's called efficiency. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
The worst thing about that CPU cooler...
It does not work for Intel motherboards even though it is marketed to do so. Difficult to believe but true. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:13:28 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: The worst thing about that CPU cooler... It does not work for Intel motherboards even though it is marketed to do so. Difficult to believe but true. Yea, it's got three adjustment notches on the cross-member mating for the poles passing thru the MB. Both extremes are Intel and the centre notches are AMD. I'm also using the same model cooler on another Gigabyte, an Intel 775 MB though. No issues, except same model cooler is basically the same design when I bought maybe ten years ago. ....Looks exactly the same but dunno what it was called. I've bought heatsinks back in the 8088 or a little beyond days, so rough the bottoms, I'd take a plane of glass with rubbing compound over fine metal sandpaper, and figure-eight polish them up into a mirror finish. ...Couple degree shaved maybe depending on how you blow on the compound before making the mate. Don't be afraid of pliers or a rat-tail file. It may needs some hard looking at before coaxing. Like my dear ol' shop teacher from high school would say, 'If banging doesn't do it, curse at that SOB until it does.' |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
Flasherly wrote:
John Doe wrote: The worst thing about that CPU cooler... It does not work for Intel motherboards even though it is marketed to do so. Difficult to believe but true. Don't be afraid of pliers or a rat-tail file. Exactly. That is what Intel motherboard users are in for. Modding is great but it should not be necessary. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
Flasherly wrote:
Put it in last night, replacing the stock, relatively a petite AMD cooler for an eight-core. Pretty substantial, nonetheless, for their base EVO model: consisting of metal backplate, some offset posts for the backplate, and a cross-member to secure the cooler to four posts. Clip the fan on the fins and it's ready. Included an extra two clips for optionally putting on your own extra, in a dual-fan config. The cross-member screws seem the only problem. Burying them into the posts, serving to secure the base heatpipe into a mate to the top of the CPU, there's a fair leeway left over for torque. I wasn't with all the torque on my motherboard (on the side of my case), so I went with liquid cooling. I would have went with that cpu cooler if my motherboard was on the bottom of my case. I'm enough of an amateur that I can't afford to take the chance. Good luck with it! Bill |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:35:37 -0400, Bill
wrote: I wasn't with all the torque on my motherboard (on the side of my case), so I went with liquid cooling. I would have went with that cpu cooler if my motherboard was on the bottom of my case. I'm enough of an amateur that I can't afford to take the chance. Good luck with it! Bill It's an beater mid-tower, I removed the case sides opposite the MB mounts, and that panel is kind of lost...somewhere. So I lay it down sideways, where the CPU cooler is upwards. The other setup also has the side removed, but is a much nicer, all-aluminum case. That one sits normally for a tower, with basically the same cooler mounted sideways and none the worse for it: a six-layer MB with a metal plate behind CPU socket to bolster that weight. Appears well enough implemented, and the Gigabyte MB I bought last month also included that metal plate. First MB I've bought that did, although a metal plate is way, way overkill for stock socket AMD3+ coolers. Of course with Cooler Master it either doesn't to a standard for such plates -- even if all the holes would have to be the same for all MBs -- but includes its own custom metal plate. So Gigabytes' plate goes over the shoulder. I didn't mean the weight of the cooler pulling down and sideways from gravity. Not that sort of torque. I was referring to the heatsink packaged with eight metal custom stand-offs. Four longer presumably for AMD, the smaller other four for Intel. They go through the MB, through the metal plate, and are secured by four provided nuts at the far side of the plate. On the upper business end, the standoffs are tapped with female threads for an X-bracket, the cross member that screws down on bottom of actual cooler and makes a mate to the cooler and top of the CPU. That's the torque I'm talking about. Those four spring-loaded screws do crank down and do it hard. I snuggled mine in nice and tight by feel, trying to evenly rotate screw turns in a rotational fashion. Up to a point, where it just didn't seem right to me to keep on cranking on them. Being that's the way they're made -- it would a sure bet plenty of people buy that cooler and crank further until the all the threads are used up. Is that added torque going to make any difference in cooling?...seriously, I doubt it. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On 7/11/2017 2:52 PM, Flasherly wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:27:22 -0400, Flasherly wrote: Also - it's dead quiet. The stock was of course a smaller and/or more fan blades and to be expected some audible noise. For a relatively huge cooler, positioning it's fan next and to feed a PS in/out array, dual fans, the added CPU heat generated is immediately noticeably -- as ducted out of the PS and case. Which is a regular little heater for the summertime, and which the stock cooler could in no way duplicate. And that's called efficiency. I always try to position the processor fan so that it's output goes directly towards the case exhaust fan(s). That, and video cards that also exhaust out of the case make a huge difference in the case temp, and therefore the CPU and video card temps. I frequently will make cardboard deflectors or boxes around the heat sources to help the flow or heat get out ASAP. The other trick I've done with my last few builds is to install an intake 5" fan at the back of 3 5 1/4" drive slots, with a foam filter cut and glued into a "W" shape in the drive bays to filter the air coming in. It keeps the inside of the PC much cleaner, and the big intake fan can be run slow enough so it is barely audible. If I start to hear the processor fan speed up in normal usage, it's time to clean the filter. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:12:40 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: Exactly. That is what Intel motherboard users are in for. Modding is great but it should not be necessary. What isn't matching up for you, the holes in the MB aligning to the cross-member, or are Cooler Master's standoffs not adequate to proper clearances to work with when tightening it down? It's otherwise finely spec'd out by millimeters on a factory PDF schematic to download for the cooler, should there be any uncertainty with case depth construction or a particular MB component layout. Some do of course have to give up memory, PCI slots, various access points, rearrange their assembly order, among various concessions when putting on aftermarket and oversized coolers. |
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ 120mm PWM Fan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:54:04 -0700, Bob F wrote:
I always try to position the processor fan so that it's output goes directly towards the case exhaust fan(s). That, and video cards that also exhaust out of the case make a huge difference in the case temp, and therefore the CPU and video card temps. I frequently will make cardboard deflectors or boxes around the heat sources to help the flow or heat get out ASAP. The other trick I've done with my last few builds is to install an intake 5" fan at the back of 3 5 1/4" drive slots, with a foam filter cut and glued into a "W" shape in the drive bays to filter the air coming in. It keeps the inside of the PC much cleaner, and the big intake fan can be run slow enough so it is barely audible. If I start to hear the processor fan speed up in normal usage, it's time to clean the filter. Which is why I've gone Joe Slob about the case, removed the side opposite the MB mounts, to lay the case down sideways. Hot air to an extent can simply rise out naturally from the case. My latest slob job, last week, was to take a nibbler and cut through the steel rolls forming the upper side of the internal (3.5") drive cage, cutting away the rest of the top plane with steel sheers. The exposed hard drives are set loosely balanced and unsecured on their sides, although the front case fan is still placed and blowing on them. Very, much easier to swap and make new connections. No rear fan at the backplane, as upper-mounted power supply has both in- an outtake fans. The PS served absolutely no aerodynamic function until the Cooler Master and it's large sideway-oriented fan. Purely happenstance that I could direct that fan from fins directly opposite, through the cooler, and closely into the intake fan of the PS fan. With as much happenstance then to be pleasantly surprised, engaging all eight cores under heat stress, with a thought to put my hand to the back exhaust PS fan and feel The Heat coming on strong. There are cases at the other extreme of extreme efficiency. Except they're not actually cases, but vaguely a tree-limb construct. Open and exposed mounting for the individual build components. Not really my thing, hearsay, although I'll hazard something along this ... https://www.amazon.com/AeroCool-Fram.../dp/B009RRIP86 Once I liked cases, but those days are gone. Now, if I were any more a slob, I'd put computers together with nails and screws, into plywood, maybe with some wire from my handy-dandy "safety-wire" pliers, found in military applications for twisting wire between securement anchors used on rumbling B52 bombers, C130s, and likely, I'll hazard, securing down electronic modules within tanks. Big advantage, obviously, is it's hard to beat for people who can't seem to keep their hands out of computers, changing, rearranging parts, or incessantly tweaking them. Oh, yea. Airfilters. I just stick on the couch crevice tool on to the vacuum cleaner's detachable hose, along with a small parts brush, to get at the worst of it. Fans of course would eventually have to come out to clean them thoroughly. Surrounded by enough audio gear that looks don't matter no more, stays pretty clean for the most. |
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