Windows 10 - the final nail in the coffin for Linux desktop

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Slimer wrote:

On 2015-05-14 5:32 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
On 13/05/15 14:12, Bubba wrote:


This decision has been made as part of the company’s effort to
rebrand "Windows as a service."

Read: you'll have to pay for it on an ongoing annual basis.

MS have been working on the idea that you don't own your software for
years.

Oh, and it'll only be a free desktop upgrade for a year, after which
you'll have to start paying for it - so the upgrade is kinda a free trial.

Oh, and it'll only be free for things with screens 7" or smaller for a
while, until people start using in mobile devices, when they will start
charging for it.

Charging to rent it, that is, not to buy it.

Good marketing ploy - just hopefully some of us aren't that dumb.

Except that there is no evidence at this point in time that they are
going to charge for it after that first year. In fact, they've said the
very opposite. It appears that the upgrade is not only free for any user
of Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 who installs it in its first year of release but
also that it will remain supported for as long as that device is used.

Put it on a VM. That is what I've done. Unless you are gaming,
it's a waste to install a single instance of OS on modern
hardware.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Nomen Nescio wrote:

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Jeremy Bentham wrote:

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Nobody wrote:

On 05/14/2015 04:08 AM, Anonymous wrote:
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"John F" wrote:

"Anonymous" wrote in message
servers.net...

Google has been doing this for years. Google has been mining
your email, social media, chats and phone calls more
aggressively than Facebook, yet you whiners say nothing about
them.


No matter what M$loft say or do to sway or even purchase public opinion
about anything to do with their product or organization, will never convince
me of their value. Sure everything everywhere gets logged nowadays, no
biggie - just don't like M$loft.

It doesn't matter what you think.

Why should anyone believe what you think matters?

Microsoft enables people. If you aren't one of the enabled, you
are one of the left out.

They sure enable a lot of virus and malware writers! They are in turn
futilely chased by the protection program writers... I'll stick with
Linux and leave you in your "enabled" world...

Windows has enhanced me completely. Because of Microsoft, I'm described by people who know
me as, The kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being they've ever known in
their life.

You talking computers or your gay love life?


Tell me about this 'gay love life'. I'm curious. In your experience, do you recommend it?

Lol! get a room you two.

On 5/15/15, 3:37 PM, in article ,
"xobert" wrote:

Except that there is no evidence at this point in time that they are
going to charge for it after that first year. In fact, they've said the
very opposite. It appears that the upgrade is not only free for any user
of Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 who installs it in its first year of release but
also that it will remain supported for as long as that device is used.

Put it on a VM. That is what I've done. Unless you are gaming,
it's a waste to install a single instance of OS on modern
hardware.

At this point my home use of Windows and Linux are both purely through VMs.
Windows works great with this... some distros of Linux do.

Actually just tossed all my Linux distros and will re-install later. Was not
using them so there was no point in keeping them.


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Melzzzzz wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:20:16 -0600
GreyCloud wrote:

JEDIDIAH wrote:

On 2015-05-14, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
On 13/05/15 14:12, Bubba wrote:


This decision has been made as part of the company’s effor
t to
rebrand "Windows as a service."

Read: you'll have to pay for it on an ongoing annual basis.

Haven't they been saying that Windows would kill Unix since the
3.5.1 days?

It did. There is only IBMs AIX, and Solaris. The rest couldn't
afford to compete.


Bull****. What killed Unix is cheap Intel servers that were better
than alternatives. And guess what? They don;t run Windows...

name one intel based server that doesn't run windows...

On 2015-05-15 7:52 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article 20150515214428.0d1173c6@maxa-pc
Melzzzzz wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2015 12:20:16 -0600
GreyCloud wrote:

JEDIDIAH wrote:

On 2015-05-14, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
On 13/05/15 14:12, Bubba wrote:


This decision has been made as part of the company’s effor
t to
rebrand "Windows as a service."

Read: you'll have to pay for it on an ongoing annual basis.

Haven't they been saying that Windows would kill Unix since the
3.5.1 days?

It did. There is only IBMs AIX, and Solaris. The rest couldn't
afford to compete.


Bull****. What killed Unix is cheap Intel servers that were better
than alternatives. And guess what? They don;t run Windows...

name one intel based server that doesn't run windows...

Hmm, I never looked it up myself but are you suggesting that if the
processor inside the server is an Intel, it most definitely runs
Windows? It seems unlikely to me.


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Encrypt.

On 5/15/15, 4:52 PM, in article ,
"Nomen Nescio" wrote:

name one intel based server that doesn't run windows...

Fred.


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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA
* Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0
* Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8
* Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8
* Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI
* Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c

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GreyCloud wrote:

JEDIDIAH wrote:

On 2015-05-14, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
On 13/05/15 14:12, Bubba wrote:


This decision has been made as part of the company’s effort to
rebrand "Windows as a service."

Read: you'll have to pay for it on an ongoing annual basis.

Haven't they been saying that Windows would kill Unix since the 3.5.1
days?

It did. There is only IBMs AIX, and Solaris. The rest couldn't afford to
compete.

Ultrix, OSF/1, Digital Unix, Tru64, all gone. Tru64 was a beast
and very reliable.

Not thrilled at all with HP-UX or the filthy scumbags from India
who are trying to steal our jobs and country.

On 05/14/2015 04:37 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
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Nobody wrote:

On 05/14/2015 04:08 AM, Anonymous wrote:
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"John F" wrote:

"Anonymous" wrote in message
servers.net...

Google has been doing this for years. Google has been mining
your email, social media, chats and phone calls more
aggressively than Facebook, yet you whiners say nothing about
them.


No matter what M$loft say or do to sway or even purchase public opinion
about anything to do with their product or organization, will never convince
me of their value. Sure everything everywhere gets logged nowadays, no
biggie - just don't like M$loft.

It doesn't matter what you think.

Why should anyone believe what you think matters?

Microsoft enables people. If you aren't one of the enabled, you
are one of the left out.

They sure enable a lot of virus and malware writers! They are in turn
futilely chased by the protection program writers... I'll stick with
Linux and leave you in your "enabled" world...

Yeah you do that Mr. Wyle E. Coyote supergenius...snicker!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04...ralia_hacked_w
arns_personal_details_exposed/

"Linus Torvalds was at hacked event"

Haxored by Windoze.

As if that compares to the hundreds of thousands of viruses and malware
out there waiting for hapless Windoze victims... er... users...

On 05/15/2015 02:45 AM, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
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Nobody wrote:

On 05/14/2015 04:08 AM, Anonymous wrote:
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"John F" wrote:

"Anonymous" wrote in message
servers.net...

Google has been doing this for years. Google has been mining
your email, social media, chats and phone calls more
aggressively than Facebook, yet you whiners say nothing about
them.


No matter what M$loft say or do to sway or even purchase public opinion
about anything to do with their product or organization, will never convince
me of their value. Sure everything everywhere gets logged nowadays, no
biggie - just don't like M$loft.

It doesn't matter what you think.

Why should anyone believe what you think matters?

Microsoft enables people. If you aren't one of the enabled, you
are one of the left out.

They sure enable a lot of virus and malware writers! They are in turn
futilely chased by the protection program writers... I'll stick with
Linux and leave you in your "enabled" world...

The value of something is established by the public market.

The value of something to me is established by what it does for me.

Even though linux is free, the general public would rather steal
Windows than load linux.

Enjoy your malware-ridden warez. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

Is Windows really that good, or do we steal it just because we
can, and **** all to Bill Gates?

Beats me. You'll have to ask your fellow thieves.

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Slimer wrote:

On 2015-05-15 6:11 PM, Anonymous wrote:

I don't see the Linux desktop going away. In fact, I think
Windows 10 will actually encourage the adoption of some Linux
desktops because of the cleaner uncluttered elegant Linux
desktop interface. Mint is a great candidate for example.
Easily configured too.

People said that with XP, repeated it with Vista, echoed it when 7 came
out and guaranteed it when 8 came out. No matter what terrible changes
Microsoft brought, people _still_ refused to use Linux. It's like using
a BMW and they changed the look of the dash and somebody tells you that
you can use a Ford Focus instead. You'll stick to BMW because you know
that Ford, in general, is awful... just like Linux.

Windows 8 was a step backwards into the EGA stone ages complete
with Alaskan outhouse.

https://indeepalaska.files.wordpress...9/p1000213.jpg