DLT7000 and a Proliant 5000

Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several cables and
it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...
I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...
Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be better
off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:
Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does it
use a
50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the
jumpers
on
this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:


"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...

I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single
ended.


i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones with
the
68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
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Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:

Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several cables and
it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...

I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...

Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be better
off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:

Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does it

use a

50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers

on

this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
m...


On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...


I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.

i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones with

the

68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd drive
will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable error.
I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out fine
but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS system
back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .
Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:

Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several cables
and
it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...

I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...

Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be better
off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:

Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does it

use a

50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers

on

this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
m...


On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...


I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.

i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones with

the

68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:

Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd drive
will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable error.
I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out fine
but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS system
back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .

Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:


Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several cables

and

it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...


I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...


Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be better
off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:


Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does it

use a


50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers


on


this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4ax. com...



On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:




"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.


i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones with

the


68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

I just tried a new 50 pin cable- same error.


"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
news
Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:

Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd
drive
will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable
error.
I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out
fine
but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS
system
back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .

Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:


Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several
cables

and

it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...


I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...


Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be
better
off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:


Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does
it

use a


50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers


on


this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar
vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4ax. com...



On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:




"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.


i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones
with

the


68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum
http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

Could the connector on the motherboard have a bent pin?

Robert Bates wrote:

I just tried a new 50 pin cable- same error.


"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
news
Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:


Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd

drive

will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable

error.

I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out

fine

but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS

system

back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
m...


Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:



Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several

cables

and


it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50 pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...



Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be

better

off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:



Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and does

it

use a



50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers



on



this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar

vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4a x.com...




On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:





"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...




I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.



i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones

with

the



68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum

http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

The pins all look ok. If I unplug the 68 pin cable for the tape drive, the
cd works fine. Strange.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .
Could the connector on the motherboard have a bent pin?

Robert Bates wrote:

I just tried a new 50 pin cable- same error.


"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
news
Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:


Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd

drive

will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable

error.

I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when
I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out

fine

but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS

system

back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
m...


Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is
more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to
remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since
the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:



Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several

cables

and


it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50
pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...



Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be

better

off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:



Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and
does

it

use a



50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers



on



this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar

vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4a x.com...




On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:





"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...




I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its single

ended.



i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones

with

the



68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and
it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum

http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

its probably an either-or channel. You may not be able to use both the 68pin
and 50pin header at the same time.

Its been a long, long time since i had my hands inside a 5000. I dont think
there are any 50pin headers inside of a 5500.

- LC

"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...
The pins all look ok. If I unplug the 68 pin cable for the tape drive,
the
cd works fine. Strange.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .
Could the connector on the motherboard have a bent pin?

Robert Bates wrote:

I just tried a new 50 pin cable- same error.


"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
news
Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've
run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:


Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin cd

drive

will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable

error.

I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error, when
I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is
currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests out

fine

but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS

system

back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
m...


Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is
more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to
remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants since
the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:



Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several

cables

and


it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50
pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...



Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be

better

off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:



Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and
does

it

use a



50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with the

jumpers



on



this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar

vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4a x.com...




On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:





"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...




I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its
single

ended.



i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the ones

with

the



68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500 and
it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68 pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual from
Quantum

http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

If that's the case, would the cd drive work with a 50 to 68 pin adapter?



"Nut Cracker" wrote in message
...
its probably an either-or channel. You may not be able to use both the
68pin
and 50pin header at the same time.

Its been a long, long time since i had my hands inside a 5000. I dont
think
there are any 50pin headers inside of a 5500.

- LC

"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...
The pins all look ok. If I unplug the 68 pin cable for the tape drive,
the
cd works fine. Strange.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
.. .
Could the connector on the motherboard have a bent pin?

Robert Bates wrote:

I just tried a new 50 pin cable- same error.


"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
news
Replace the cable. It may have gotten pinched or stretched. It
doesn't
take much sometimes.

Give me abit of time on the "my computer" or ms backup problem. I've
run
into this sort of thing my self but, I'm getting old and memory fails
for the moment.

Robert Bates wrote:


Thanks again for the help. Now I have another problem. The 50 pin
cd

drive

will not allow the server to boot. It complains about a scsi cable

error.

I tried it by unplugging the cable from the cd drive- same error,
when
I
unplug it from the motherboard, it boots up fine.

Another question about tape drives in general, this server is
currently
running Windows 2000 server for testing and the tape drive shows up
in
device manager and the tape drive diagnostic finds it and it tests
out

fine

but... it doesn't show up as a drive in "my computer" or in the MS

system

back up software.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
m...


Don't question the great god SCSI!! ;-) Actually not sure but it is
more
than likely the 68pin to 50pin converters you have. I seem to
remember
that there can be problems because of the way some are wired.

Great to hear. Glad to be of help. Been playing with Proliants
since
the
Proliant 1000 days.

Robert Bates wrote:



Alex,

You were right, there was a 68 pin connector hiding under several

cables

and


it works!

So, why would the other not work???



"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...



I would prefer the 68 pin but the header on the motherboard is 50
pin.



"Alex Blanco" wrote in message
...



Why are you using the 50pin header in the 5000 when you would be

better

off using the 68pin head?

Robert Bates wrote:



Jason,

How is the DLT7000 in your 2500 set up in terms of jumpers and
does

it

use a



50-68 pin adapter? Maybe I have been missing something with
the

jumpers



on



this one. I believe that the 2500 and 5000 are of a similar

vintage.

Regards



"Jason Arthurs" wrote in message
news:8v4qj15rlcjp4mg3fruvcatphje7ji6f1g@4a x.com...




On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:39:04 -0500, "NuTCrAcKeR"
wrote:





"Robert Bates" wrote in message
...




I just tested it with an ohm meter and it looks like its
single

ended.



i think the drives with 50pin connectors are SE, while the
ones

with

the



68pin connectors are LVD.


I've got a DLT7000 here that just arrived in a Proliant 2500
and
it
has a 68pin connector which on an LVD cable. The documentation
suggests they are available as both SE and LVD both with 68
pin
connections (pg 48/49). Here's the link for the full manual
from
Quantum

http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt7000...ductmanual.pdf

Regards,
Jason.

---
Replace nntp with my name to reply.
N0 5pAm H3r3: Include this tagline to pass my spam filter.

What a magnificent thread this has become! I couldn't resist jumping
in.

None of my ProLiants have 50 pin headers. But it sounds like the drive
works when attached to the 68 pin header. Can I suggest you put the
50/68 adapter on the CD and the tape drive, and get a multiconnector 68
pin cable with a terminator on the end. Give the two drives different
SCSI ID's and proceed to chain them together on the single (and
apparently working) 68 pin header?

I have a 3000 with a SCSI CD and tape drive both connected in just this
way, and it worked right from the start.

Let's keep going, though. I think we can hit 50 responses if everybody
jumps in!